ANOTHER MOS question

Could we say that Zod is more powerful than Superman by default? It's said in the movie that Superman is stronger than most kryptonians because he's lived on earth so long and soaked up it's energy. The sun in a lot younger than the one on Krypton... Yet... Zod with SIGNIFICANTLY less time on earth soaking up its rays and getting used to the atmosphere... Was able to do the same stuff Superman was but SIGNIFICANTLY faster. They made it a point to talk about Clark being so powerful because he was on earth so long... Well ZOD was doing everything Superman was doing and was barely on earth at all. Can we thus say ZOd is more powerful by default?

Make up your own mind for once. Do you need someone to hold your hand throughout the entire movie.

He wasn't stronger. The writers of MOS just wrote a horrible script that showed Clark roaming the earth moping around instead of learning how to use his powers.

TBF, Clark had the entire Kryptonian lineage encoded within him. He was like the Alpha Kryptonian.

Zod should have won. He was trained Soldier and general with the same powers as Superman. Zod had much more experience fighting in war.

Superman was more powerful, he was just less trained in combat than Zod was. Once he started to actually use his powers properly, he was able to make up for any gap in skill that might have existed.

How can u say he was more powerful though.. His father specifically says he has become more powerful than he could've ever imagined. Noting how much time he's spent soaking up a younger sun. Couple that with being used to earth atmosphere n zod wasn't n it was negatively effecting him. How then was zod with SIGNIFICANTLY less exposure to the sun.. still do everything superman could in a much much shorter time. Even just focusing on strength... he seemed every bit as strong with less solar exposure. Would more mean he'd be stronger ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Make up your own mind for once. Do you need someone to hold your hand throughout the entire movie.

Bad script explains everything.

Zod was certainly a more skilled fighter but but the powers that the Kryptonians possess on Earth make his fighting prowess useless. It really seems to come down to who has better control and awareness of their powers.

I don't think one was stronger than the other. It would seem to me that anyone from Krypton would possess an equal potential.

When considering the final fight t the end I don't think anyone can say that either Superman or Zod were stronger than the other. I would also contend that neither had an advantage on having a better understanding or control of their powers. Clark spent his entire life learning how to quell his powers. He may have had an extra day or to learn about the true potential of his powers but he started using them the same time Zod came to Earth. Zods years of combat training, discipline and engineering allowed him to quickly gain control of his powers.

I'm sure if both, Superman and Zod had equal time to hone their abilities, Zod would be the superior fighter but again with these types of abilities I don't think it matters much. Just like the end of the movie it would all come down to who gets the lucky break first. Superman was able to get the lucky break in this instance and restrain Zod in a choke hold. At this point though I think Zod had lost control of himself, he was on a mindless rampage. I think that contributed to Superman getting the upper hand. I don't remember seeing anything that suggests one is stronger or more powerful than the other though

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Could we say that Zod is more powerful than Superman by default? It's said in the movie that Superman is stronger than most kryptonians because he's lived on earth so long and soaked up it's energy. The sun in a lot younger than the one on Krypton... Yet... Zod with SIGNIFICANTLY less time on earth soaking up its rays and getting used to the atmosphere... Was able to do the same stuff Superman was but SIGNIFICANTLY faster. They made it a point to talk about Clark being so powerful because he was on earth so long... Well ZOD was doing everything Superman was doing and was barely on earth at all. Can we thus say ZOd is more powerful by default?

This whole statement contradicts its self..

Movie watching fail..

If Zod was stronger he would not have gotten his neck snapped with ease.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How can u say he was more powerful though.. His father specifically says he has become more powerful than he could've ever imagined. Noting how much time he's spent soaking up a younger sun. Couple that with being used to earth atmosphere n zod wasn't n it was negatively effecting him. How then was zod with SIGNIFICANTLY less exposure to the sun.. still do everything superman could in a much much shorter time. Even just focusing on strength... he seemed every bit as strong with less solar exposure. Would more mean he'd be stronger ?

Zod was strong enough to hurt Superman, not necessarily as strong AS Superman.

They were in the same ballpark, sure, but that's how Kryptonians are in the comics too. They all get to a baseline level very quickly, but to go above that takes time.

Zod wouldn't have survived the World Engine, for example, imo.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
This whole statement contradicts its self..

Movie watching fail..

If Zod was stronger he would not have gotten his neck snapped with ease.

Common sense and logic failure... In this your first time watching a movie with big clownshoes on? You do know that generally and 99% of the time the hero ALWAYS wins and saves the day. That is what happens. So superman winning doesn't mean he was stronger or more powerful by any means. We see this all the time in comics as well. Maybe you should check out more movies and you'll realize somebody winning or losing doesn't mean it was PIS or CIS or that they were more powerful

Originally posted by -Pr-
Zod was strong enough to hurt Superman, not necessarily as strong AS Superman.

They were in the same ballpark, sure, but that's how Kryptonians are in the comics too. They all get to a baseline level very quickly, but to go above that takes time.

Zod wouldn't have survived the World Engine, for example, imo.

Big Buddy... His father notes that he was STONGER than he could ever imagine. He explains this by specifically saying he has been soaking up the sun for so long. Him saying he's stronger than he could imagine means stronger than the typical kryptonian... or else he would be able to imagine it. Yet, he didn't seem stronger than Zod and Zod got used to his powers faster than superman did. So with significantly less exposure... Zod appeared every bit as stronger and certainly showed he could adapt quicker than superman.

"Stronger than he could possibly imagine" could also refer to his not realizing Kryptonions would be so powerful on Earth. This wouldn't implicate that Jor - El regarded his son as stronger than the typical Kryptonian. BTW, Zod wasn't a typical Kryptonian - he was a combat trained general.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Make up your own mind for once. Do you need someone to hold your hand throughout the entire movie.

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Originally posted by Time Immemorial

If Zod was stronger he would not have gotten his neck snapped with ease.

I don't have an investment in the argument but you don't have to be stronger than someone or even very strong at all to break some ones neck. I've never personally broken some ones neck but I know it only takes seven pounds of the right leverage of pressure to snap the femur bone. The neck is much less durable and has far less muscle protecting it.

With all of that said I still think Superman is stronger, definitely not as skilled but stronger. He certainly has the most impressive strength feats in the movie.

Superman withstood the world engine and Zod couldn't escape Supermans grasp. I don't see Zod having any trouble snapping Supermans neck if he got the upper hand though

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Big Buddy... His father notes that he was STONGER than he could ever imagine. He explains this by specifically saying he has been soaking up the sun for so long. Him saying he's stronger than he could imagine means stronger than the typical kryptonian... or else he would be able to imagine it. Yet, he didn't seem stronger than Zod and Zod got used to his powers faster than superman did. So with significantly less exposure... Zod appeared every bit as stronger and certainly showed he could adapt quicker than superman.

I don't agree, and I honestly think you're reaching a bit.

Jor-El had no way of knowing how powerful Kryptonians would get on Earth. So he has no basis of comparison.

Originally posted by Firefly218
"Stronger than he could possibly imagine" could also refer to his not realizing Kryptonions would be so powerful on Earth. This wouldn't implicate that Jor - El regarded his son as stronger than the typical Kryptonian. BTW, Zod wasn't a typical Kryptonian - he was a combat trained general.

Doubt it... because he sent him there KNOWING that the earth's sun was young and better than Krypton's. He's also fully aware what Kryptonians are capable of in battle. So him saying that seems very clear that Superman had grown stronger and more powerful than what he was used to seeing them be capable of. Zod then did everything Superman could do without the benefit of soaking up the Sun's radiation that Kal-El had soaked up his whole life.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't agree, and I honestly think you're reaching a bit.

Jor-El had no way of knowing how powerful Kryptonians would get on Earth. So he has no basis of comparison.

Correct he has no idea.. but HE DOES KNOW how strong Kryptonians were on Krypton. That he's an expert at. He sent him to earth because of how young the sun was there. When superman finds the scout shit and his conscious is brought back... he then can see what superman has become.. and THEN notes he's stronger than he could ever possibly imagine. He said this after seeing his son and what he had become. Zod with significantly less exposure to a much more powerful sun.. seemed everybody bit as strong as superman and adapted to his powers much much quicker.