Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Correct he has no idea.. but HE DOES KNOW how strong Kryptonians were on Krypton. That he's an expert at. He sent him to earth because of how young the sun was there. When superman finds the scout shit and his conscious is brought back... he then can see what superman has become.. and THEN notes he's stronger than he could ever possibly imagine. He said this after seeing his son and what he had become. Zod with significantly less exposure to a much more powerful sun.. seemed everybody bit as strong as superman and adapted to his powers much much quicker.
Kryptonians on krypton are human level though...
And theres still the question of restraint on supermans part during his life.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't agree, and I honestly think you're reaching a bit.Jor-El had no way of knowing how powerful Kryptonians would get on Earth. So he has no basis of comparison.
Thats not correct, he knew how strong he would be on earth, which is why he sent his only son there. As he stated he will be a God to them, his cells will drink the young stars radiation. When Jor El visted Clark on earth, he told him why he had powers beyond anyone on earth, his point was to keep pushing himself to see if he had any limits.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Correct he has no idea.. but HE DOES KNOW how strong Kryptonians were on Krypton. That he's an expert at. He sent him to earth because of how young the sun was there. When superman finds the scout shit and his conscious is brought back... he then can see what superman has become.. and THEN notes he's stronger than he could ever possibly imagine. He said this after seeing his son and what he had become. Zod with significantly less exposure to a much more powerful sun.. seemed everybody bit as strong as superman and adapted to his powers much much quicker.
Incorrect, he knew how strong his son would be, watch the movie again, this time from the beginning.
Zod saw what powers Kal had an knew he could have them as well, Kal also told him how to control his powers.
Did you watch any of the movie or understand any of it?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Incorrect, he knew how strong his son would be, watch the movie again, this time from the beginning.Zod saw what powers Kal had an knew he could have them as well, Kal also told him how to control his powers.
Did you watch any of the movie or understand any of it?
Do you have an impediment to comprehension or something? I mean I like how you didn't answer my previous post quoting you were you went all dumb all me... With the whole.. ohh he won.. thus he must be stronger and better.. forgetting how often we have PIS and CIS in movies or comics or any medium that allows the good guy to win. I know why you didn't answer... moving on here...
I might just have to call you shoes from now on.. He doesn't KNOW how strong superman would be, in fact, this is proven when he says you've become more powerful than I could've possible imagined. This totally and completely crushes your theory that he KNEW EXACTLY how strong he would be on earth. Can you explain to me how you can try and sound condescending towards someone and act like you have the answer. Only to turn around and look like a totally buffoon? Is that a natural talent you show all the time or just in the movie forum? So now that we destroyed that theory.
Him being told what to do doesn't change the fact that Zod had SIGNFICANTLY LESS EXPOSURE to a sun that was stated as fact to make Kryptonians especially strong. He could be told or shown all the wants but he had SIGNIFICANTLY less exposure to SOAK UP THE SOLAR ENERGY OF THE SUN than Superman.. and yet he was able to replicate his powers and do everything Superman could in a vastly shorter period of time. How can you explain significantly less exposure to the sun and soaking up its radiation yet being able to do everything someone else can who has been soaking up since he was a child? Do tell
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Thats not correct, he knew how strong he would be on earth, which is why he sent his only son there. As he stated he will be a God to them, his cells will drink the young stars radiation. When Jor El visted Clark on earth, he told him why he had powers beyond anyone on earth, his point was to keep pushing himself to see if he had any limits.
He knew he would be powerful on Earth, but not to what extent. That's a very, very important distinction.
And there's still the point of Clark's restraint, imo.
I think the theme of the film is the kryptonians dynamic power set. Superman grew up learning to restrain his powers at all costs, when he cuts loose in the comics or in the movie he's on another level. The movies are following the nudcu. And this has always been the dynamic, it's more reinforced now
Jorel makes so many references to superman always testing his limits that we see this in a lot of scenes where superman should be outgunned, but he makes it happen. World engine, fighting two of his peepers, escaping the gravitational pull of the black hole..........
Iow when superman doesn't hold back he's more powerful than pretty much anybody.
Zod is a general. He searched for power as soon as it found him and he exploited it. His normal is better than supermans average. Superman cutting loose tools zod
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How can you explain significantly less exposure to the sun and soaking up its radiation yet being able to do everything someone else can who has been soaking up since he was a child? Do tell
Its explained by Zod stating " I was bred to be a warrior, Kal. Trained my entire life to master my senses. Where did you train? ON A FARM?"
Actually, the buffoon part is on you, they explain everything in the movie.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Jor-El had no way of knowing how powerful Kryptonians would get on Earth. So he has no basis of comparison.
And I also disagree with the idea that on Krypton kryptonians are human level. The higher gravity and harsher conditions necessitate for them to be tougher than humans, if not as superhumanly tough as they would be under a yellow sun.
LOL
The "you're stronger than I ever imagined" was pretty obviously IMO a comment on the man he had become. Jor-El knew he would have the powers of a God but he was always encouraging Superman to test his limits. The common theme of Superman's cutting loose equalling an infinitely mmore powerful Superman who has spent his entire life trying not to hurt others
Zod went straight for the power and had no compunctions. He's a military man. I didn't mind seeing him physically get beaten by Jor-El, I never thought of Zod as a fighter. usually when serious skill or power was needed Zod called in Non and Faora or whoever, I always thought of him as a ruthless leader.
Zod had a point in the film, Superman was capable of restoring the entire Kryptonian race, shame he didn't want to do it on mars or something along those lines but IMO we didn't see the beginnnoning of Superman's power really start to flourish until Zod's did as well
Originally posted by safado
LOLThe "you're stronger than I ever imagined" was pretty obviously IMO a comment on the man he had become. Jor-El knew he would have the powers of a God but he was always encouraging Superman to test his limits. The common theme of Superman's cutting loose equalling an infinitely mmore powerful Superman who has spent his entire life trying not to hurt others
Zod went straight for the power and had no compunctions. He's a military man. I didn't mind seeing him physically get beaten by Jor-El, I never thought of Zod as a fighter. usually when serious skill or power was needed Zod called in Non and Faora or whoever, I always thought of him as a ruthless leader.
Zod had a point in the film, Superman was capable of restoring the entire Kryptonian race, shame he didn't want to do it on mars or something along those lines but IMO we didn't see the beginnnoning of Superman's power really start to flourish until Zod's did as well
Welcome over from Herochat lol... How do you explain Zod not soaking up the suns rays for years like Kal El... and really only being able to maybe do it for a day or so.. being able to compete with Kal El physically? It's expressed very clearly.. that superman soaking up the sun for so long has made him "more powerful than Jor El could've ever imagined" (and he already knew he would be a god on earth). Zod with SIGNIFICANTLY less sun exposure.. was able to match him physically for the most part and do everything Kal El could do.. How do you explain this?
Here is a better question or something to think about that is not explained.
The Oil Rig Scene.
One second he is on his boat hearing about the oil rig on fire, the very next we see him climbing the tower.
How did he get there so fast without being able to fly.
Did he jump or super speed swim that distance?