Gradiator with the ebony blade Vs. Morg with WOL

Originally posted by zopzop

Nova was infected with parasites that he was actively fighting against and wanted to die and he still beat Gamora?

Context. His body was so weakened that it was incapable of interstellar travel (among other things).

Even in his weakened state he went up against the New Warriors and the Fantastic Four all of which were supplied with "Anti Terrax" weapons by Reed. Even with all that going on, Reed still felt he needed to summon the Surfer to end Terrax's rampage.

How is this a low showing? [/B]

You are full of excuses for Terrax. Tell me, has he ever beaten someone worth a damn?

Originally posted by JBL
Gladiator is from a warrior race that trained in combat all his life and then underwent the " gladiator process" to increase his might to even greater levels. Cosmic Awareness was given to the Heralds to seek out planets that had certain energies that Galactus fed upon, their awareness is designed to sense those energies. Also speed in this fight will decide who wins when one has a one-shot kill weapon backed by superior speed, strength and reflexes.

And Morg is a warrior and has been one his entire life, and he actually goes into battle with a weapon. Don't try to convince me that Gladiator is more skilled with these kinds of weapons than Morg is okay. I'm not listening to it, so don't bother.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Probably the same reason why you tried to use no-name Lanterns in an attempt to lowball Red Lantern Supergirl, even though by the logic you used before, they should have the same feats as Hal Jordan?

Also, when DID I argue that Glads would be beaten by Firelord? Not saying I didn't, I probably did, but am just interested to know.

Go back to your older threads it happened a few weeks back. I guess you believe that Firelord would beat Morg, even after his team had to save him from Morg nearly mauling him to death, and you should have seen the terror on his face. So Firelord gave Thor a fight, but Gladiator would own him huh? These guys aren't even remotely in the same ballpark.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this 100%. I don't mind though because 9 times out of 10, I always come out as the winner.

When are these times exactly? I see you trying, but often being owned.

Did a quick search for Gladiator vs Firelord; couldn't find it.

Originally posted by Stoic
And Morg is a warrior and has been one his entire life, and he actually goes into battle with a weapon. Don't try to convince me that Gladiator is more skilled with these kinds of weapons than Morg is okay. I'm not listening to it, so don't bother.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's like going commando, no? liberating. next step--try and take over the world! frankly, with the brain and darkwing i don't see how we can fail.

nwoot

Originally posted by abhilegend
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You are full of excuses for Terrax. Tell me, has he ever beaten someone worth a damn?

He fought Morg 3 times and lost. But they were close fights and he did damn well. He was a mid herald going up against a high herald. How did you expect those fights to end?

He fought the FF and New Warriors while weakened and they had weapons SPECIFICALLY created by Reed to counter Terrax and they still couldn't put him down. They had to summon the SS and Terrax lost that fight. A weakened mid herald vs one of Marvel's ELITE high heralds. How did you expect that fight to end?

He fought a Galactus amped Dazzler in the heart of a black hole. Terrax had been their for days/weeks and much of his power was spent keeping himself alive. Despite all this, Galactus amped Dazzler still couldn't put him down and Recorder had to advance her even more power. A fresh, Galactus TWICE amped Dazzler vs a Terrax exhausted from trying to keep himself alive inside the heart of a black hole. How did you expect that fight to end?

He fought that cosmic parasite during Annihilation and killed him and busted a planet.

He was about to lay the smack down on the FF, till Galactus showed up and humbled him. What as Terrax going to do vs Galactus? It was during this story arc that he lifted the entire island of Manhattan and sent it into orbit.

Aside from his Ganymede showing, he's had nothing but respectable fights.

Compare this to Gladiator :
a) Corsair's laser knocking him around
b) Wolverine punching through his shoulder with his claws
c) Gambit KOing him with a deck of cards

I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. At no time was Gladiator in a weakened state during any of those episodes.

So, no you don't have anything like Gldiator WTFpwning classic wonder man or snapping Hyperion's neck or treating Quasar and Vulcan like bugs etc or casually wtfpwning FF?

Gladiator has some damn low showings but he WINS too. Not so much with Terrax though.

Originally posted by zopzop
He's a b-list villain, he's gonna lose.

He fought Morg 3 times and lost. But they were close fights and he did damn well. He was a mid herald going up against a high herald. How did you expect those fights to end?

He fought the FF and New Warriors while weakened and they had weapons SPECIFICALLY created by Reed to counter Terrax and they still couldn't put him down. They had to summon the SS and Terrax lost that fight. A weakened mid herald vs one of Marvel's ELITE high heralds. How did you expect that fight to end?

He fought a Galactus amped Dazzler in the heart of a black hole. Terrax had been their for days/weeks and much of his power was spent keeping himself alive. Despite all this, Galactus amped Dazzler still couldn't put him down and Recorder had to advance her even more power. A fresh, Galactus TWICE amped Dazzler vs a Terrax exhausted from trying to keep himself alive inside the heart of a black hole. How did you expect that fight to end?

He fought that cosmic parasite during Annihilation and killed him and busted a planet.

He was about to lay the smack down on the FF, till Galactus showed up and humbled him. What as Terrax going to do vs Galactus? It was during this story arc that he lifted the entire island of Manhattan and sent it into orbit.

Aside from his Ganymede showing, he's had nothing but respectable fights.

Compare this to Gladiator :
a) Corsair's laser knocking him around
b) Wolverine punching through his shoulder with his claws
c) Gambit KOing him with a deck of cards

I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. At no time was Gladiator in a weakened state during any of those episodes.

Lol...so Terrax doesn't have any wins whereas Gladiator does? Then you use lowshowings to try to help your argument? By the way, Wolverine claws has punched through an amped Thanos that had the IG. Imagine if he didn't have it.

You haven't said a thing proving Terrax wouldn't get mauled by Gladiator. I can post fts of his WINS if you want. Something that Terrax doesn't have.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, no you don't have anything like Gldiator WTFpwning classic wonder man or snapping Hyperion's neck or treating Quasar and Vulcan like bugs etc or casually wtfpwning FF?

Gladiator has some damn low showings but he WINS too. Not so much with Terrax though.

Make a thread :
a) Gladiator vs Morg
b) Gladiator vs Surfer (make sure Gladiator is in a weakened state)
c) Gladiator vs the New Warriors and the FF with special weapons designed by Reed to take advantage of Gladiator's weakness to a specific form of radiation (make sure Gladiator is in a weakened state)
e) Gladiator vs a Galactus (twice) amped Dazzler inside a black hole (make sure to mention that Gladiator has been there for days and is using the majority of his power to keep himself alive). In fact, can Gladiator even survive a black hole?

Then make another thread :
a) Terrax vs classic Wonderman
b) Terrax vs pre Hickman Hyperion (who had ZERO good showings)
c) Terrax vs that version of Vulcan Glads fought

Originally posted by zopzop
Wins? Compare the FOES. Look who Gladiator has wins against vs who Terrax went up against.

Make a thread :
a) Gladiator vs Morg
b) Gladiator vs Surfer (make sure Gladiator is in a weakened state)
c) Gladiator vs the New Warriors and the FF with special weapons designed by Reed to take advantage of Gladiator's weakness to a specific form of radiation (make sure Gladiator is in a weakened state)
e) Gladiator vs a Galactus (twice) amped Dazzler inside a black hole (make sure to mention that Gladiator has been there for days and is using the majority of his power to keep himself alive). In fact, can Gladiator even survive a black hole?

Then make another thread :
a) Terrax vs classic Wonderman
b) Terrax vs pre Hickman Hyperion (who had ZERO good showings)
c) Terrax vs that version of Vulcan Glads fought

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Gladiator stalemating a Phoenix empowered Rachel. Gladiator one punching a Phoenix user. Gladiator one piercing a group of Nova corps along with taking out one of them that was taking the place of Nova Prime. Terrax doesn't have a single win and Gladiator would either win some of those battle you've named or do a helluva lot better than Terrax. He absolutely stomped Masterson until he was snuck attacked by Living lightning.

Guys, how is this on topic?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so Terrax doesn't have any wins whereas Gladiator does? Then you use lowshowings to try to help your argument? By the way, Wolverine claws has punched through an amped Thanos that had the IG. Imagine if he didn't have it.

You haven't said a thing proving Terrax wouldn't get mauled by Gladiator. I can post fts of his WINS if you want. Something that Terrax doesn't have.

I'm not trying to contribute to the derailment of the topic, but had to respond to this. I really don't think the Infinity Gauntlet physically amped Thanos. Sure, he could've amped himself if he wanted to, but I don't think he did. Since Masterson Thor was beating him down, it's hard for me to buy it boosted strength/durability without a conscious choice to. And, although it was a crossover, Wolverine's bone claws slashed Thanos. I'm not a Thanos expert so I could be wrong, but those two examples make me think he's disproportionately effected by cutting/piercing attacks.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I'm not trying to contribute to the derailment of the topic, but had to respond to this. I really don't think the Infinity Gauntlet physically amped Thanos. Sure, he could've amped himself if he wanted to, but I don't think he did. Since Masterson Thor was beating him down, it's hard for me to buy it boosted strength/durability without a conscious choice to. And, although it was a crossover, Wolverine's bone claws slashed Thanos. I'm not a Thanos expert so I could be wrong, but those two examples make me think he's disproportionately effected by cutting/piercing attacks.

You probably shouldn't have responded to my post then. Let the stompage begin. The only thing Thanos cut off was his SENSORY from the gems so that he couldn't detect his opponents next move. Per his words in this scan, Thanos still possessed LIMITLESS POWER.

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I also think you forgot what Thanos endured in that fight before and after turning his sensory back on. Do you honestly think Thanos can physically tank attacks from a gang of Skyfathers? Do you honestly think Thanos can tank attacks from a group of abstracts?

Back on topic...Gladiator wins.

Originally posted by carver9
You probably shouldn't have responded to my post then. Let the stompage begin. The only thing Thanos cut off was his SENSORY from the gems so that he couldn't detect his opponents next move. Per his words in this scan, Thanos still possessed LIMITLESS POWER.

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I also think you forgot what Thanos endured in that fight before and after turning his sensory back on. Do you honestly think Thanos can physically tank attacks from a gang of Skyfathers? Do you honestly think Thanos can tank attacks from a group of abstracts?

Back on topic...Gladiator wins.

Who said I said he cut off more than the senses? I'm going by how he actually performed hand-to-hand. There were a number of examples in that fight with all the heroes(plus Doom) where he looked barely Above Top-Tier, physically, if at all. Based on how he performed in the main series, he didn't seem to amp his physical stats.

Endured before? "Physically tank attacks from a gang of Skyfathers?" Nothing in the main series. Are you referring to some tie-in I didn't read? 'Cuz I checked and Odin and the other Skyfathers never got past the planning stages of fighting Thanos before he trapped them in Asgard. As for "tank attacks from a group of abstracts....." seemed he was actively using the IG instead of what you're arguing. Unless he amped himself after the fight with the heroes, or there was something in a tie-in that I didn't see.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Who said I said he cut off more than the senses? I'm going by how he actually performed hand-to-hand. There were a number of examples in that fight with all the heroes(plus Doom) where he looked barely Above Top-Tier, physically, if at all. Based on how he performed in the main series, he didn't seem to amp his physical stats.

Endured before? "Physically tank attacks from a gang of Skyfathers?" Nothing in the main series. Are you referring to some tie-in I didn't read? 'Cuz I checked and Odin and the other Skyfathers never got past the planning stages of fighting Thanos before he trapped them in Asgard. As for "tank attacks from a group of abstracts....." seemed he was actively using the IG instead of what you're arguing. Unless he amped himself after the fight with the heroes, or there was something in a tie-in that I didn't see.

Not responding to all of this. I am going to make this simple...where did that limitless power go? Once you answer that, provide a scan proving your case.

Originally posted by carver9
Not responding to all of this. I am going to make this simple...where did that limitless power go? Once you answer that, provide a scan proving your case.

My point is I never saw anything in the fight with all the heroes to indicate he was PHYSICALLY amped, considering how he was effected by Professor Hulk, Masterson Thor, Drax and others from physical strikes. It appeared to me one would have to actively amp your physical stats with the IG, but I only read INFINITY GAUNTLET(and I don't think ay of the tie ins), neither of the sequels.

I also asked what you meant by Thanos tanking an attack by a group of Skyfathers before the fight with the heroes, because nothing like that happened in the main series. Was it a tie-in? Or did you misremember? Him against the Entities looked like use of the IG.

Originally posted by Delta1938
My point is I never saw anything in the fight with all the heroes to indicate he was PHYSICALLY amped, considering how he was effected by Professor Hulk, Masterson Thor, Drax and others from physical strikes. It appeared to me one would have to actively amp your physical stats with the IG, but I only read INFINITY GAUNTLET(and I don't think ay of the tie ins), neither of the sequels.

I also asked what you meant by Thanos tanking an attack by a group of Skyfathers before the fight with the heroes, because nothing like that happened in the main series. Was it a tie-in? Or did you misremember? Him against the Entities looked like use of the IG.

So him being budged by a group of Heralds means he wasn't amped physically? Because he sure as hell didn't bleed or show any injuries after their assault.

Mephisto=Skyfather?