Gradiator with the ebony blade Vs. Morg with WOL

Originally posted by carter9
So him being budged by a group of Heralds means he wasn't amped physically? Because he sure as hell didn't bleed or show any injuries after their assault.

Mephisto=Skyfather?

Not budged, he got beat down a few times. The second time Masterson Thor attacked, Starfox believed Thor was going to kill Thanos. Even if hyperbole, just goes to support how much Thano was getting knocked around. He was also effected by Mid-Tier physical attacks.

And.....Mephisto? What about him? And, you said Thanos "tanked an attack from a group of Skyfathers" or however you phrased it, before the big battle with the heroes. Did you misremember, or did this happen in a tie-in?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Not budged, he got beat down a few times. The second time Masterson Thor attacked, Starfox believed Thor was going to kill Thanos. Even if hyperbole, just goes to support how much Thano was getting knocked around. He was also effected by Mid-Tier physical attacks.

And.....Mephisto? What about him? And, you said Thanos "tanked an attack from a group of Skyfathers" or however you phrased it, before the big battle with the heroes. Did you misremember, or did this happen in a tie-in?

That's them moving him because he didn't suffer a scratch when they pounced on him. What mid tier character hurt him? Bump that, what character hurt him period during that fight?

When did i say a group of Skyfathers faced him before running into the heros? Quote me where I said that.

Originally posted by carter9
That's them moving him because he didn't suffer a scratch when they pounced on him. What mid tier character hurt him? Bump that, what character hurt him period during that fight?

His reaction to getting punched in scenes where we see his reactions, and him being on the ground not striking back don't strike me as "merely moving him." He in no way looked like an Above Top-Tier with a stat amp from "omnipotence."

Let me ask you, what did he physically do that makes you think his stats were amped?

Originally posted by carter9
When did i say a group of Skyfathers faced him before running into the heros? Quote me where I said that.

Originally posted by carter9

I also think you forgot what Thanos endured in that fight before and after turning his sensory back on. Do you honestly think Thanos can physically tank attacks from a gang of Skyfathers? Do you honestly think Thanos can tank attacks from a group of abstracts?

In the main series, he wasn't attacked by the Skyfathers at all. They were planning to attack him, and he did this thing that went through the cosmos and ended-up destroying Asgard's connection t the Midgard reality, trapping all the Skyfathers in Asgard. He wasn't even attacked AT ALL before cutting off the IG senses. In the main series, that is.

Originally posted by Delta1938
His reaction to getting punched in scenes where we see his reactions, and him being on the ground not striking back don't strike me as "merely moving him." He in no way looked like an Above Top-Tier with a stat amp from "omnipotence."

Let me ask you, what did he physically do that makes you think his stats were amped?

In the main series, he wasn't attacked by the Skyfathers at all. They were planning to attack him, and he did this thing that went through the cosmos and ended-up destroying Asgard's connection t the Midgard reality, trapping all the Skyfathers in Asgard. He wasn't even attacked AT ALL before cutting off the IG senses. In the main series, that is.

LOL...what did he do physically to make me think he was either amped or far above top tier? Hhhmmm... he broke Captain America's shield with a casual slap. Is that good enough?

Mephisto attacked him. Mephisto is a skyfather.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL...what did he do physically to make me think he was either amped or far above top tier? Hhhmmm... he broke Captain America's shield with a casual slap. Is that good enough?

Mephisto attacked him. Mephisto is a skyfather.

Actually he damaged it while one fist was glowing and slamming into the shield, so even if he wasn't using the Infinity Gauntlet, it wasn't pure strength. It was already damaged when he slapped it. Basically, you're arguing that even though Thanos showed to react in pain several times when we see his reaction, as well as getting knocked around by everything from a Professor Hulk/Drax combo down to even Spider-Man, that Masterson Thor was giving him such a beating Starfox seemed to think Thor would kill him(not saying he would, I'm pointing-out how it looked to Starfox), that none of that matter because he "broke Captain America's shield with a casual slap?" Which, I might add, wasn't even how it went down. And Mephisto attacked him before he cut his IG senses off? I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Mephisto pretty much just surrounded him with Hellfire and tried to take the Gauntlet one-on-one. But you had previously said he was attacked by a GROUP of Skyfathers before he cut off the senses. Unless I misread you?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Actually he damaged it while one fist was glowing and slamming into the shield, so even if he wasn't using the Infinity Gauntlet, it wasn't pure strength. It was already damaged when he slapped it. Basically, you're arguing that even though Thanos showed to react in pain several times when we see his reaction, as well as getting knocked around by everything from a Professor Hulk/Drax combo down to even Spider-Man, that Masterson Thor was giving him such a beating Starfox seemed to think Thor would kill him(not saying he would, I'm pointing-out how it looked to Starfox), that none of that matter because he "broke Captain America's shield with a casual slap?" Which, I might add, wasn't even how it went down. And Mephisto attacked him before he cut his IG senses off? I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Mephisto pretty much just surrounded him with Hellfire and tried to take the Gauntlet one-on-one. But you had previously said he was attacked by a GROUP of Skyfathers before he cut off the senses. Unless I misread you?

The first blow that Thanos landed on the shield failed. Then he did this...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/infinity-gauntlet-caps-shield_zps75bb8b19.jpg.html

I think we are done here. I'm not naming every character Thanos fought. How about this, you are making these claims but I am the only one posting scans. Show proof of Thanos being damaged by these heros.

Originally posted by carver9
The first blow that Thanos landed on the shield failed. Then he did this...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/infinity-gauntlet-caps-shield_zps75bb8b19.jpg.html

I think we are done here. I'm not naming every character Thanos fought. How about this, you are making these claims but I am the only one posting scans. Show proof of Thanos being damaged by these heros.

Wrong, it was cracked and pieces broke off when he suck it.

But, even if you were correct, do you realize how contradictory an argument you're making? You're claiming he did nothing to the shield with an CHARGED hammer fist, but saying that him casually slapping it after proves he was amped the entire time? That's just dumb. Even if the charged hammer fist did nothing, the casual slap would be evidence he had to actively amp his stats using the IG, considering, ya know, a charged hammer fist would do more damage than a casual slap, assuming no reality manipulation was involved.

And I said he's been effected. Almost every reaction we see is clear it's hurting him. You're making a strawman here dude.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Captain%20Nazi%20exposure/Thanos/IG

Do those look like the performances of an Above Top-Tier who's stats are being amped?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Wrong, it was cracked and pieces broke off when he suck it.

aw ****ing typos, and too late to edit. That was supposed to be "struck it," not "suck it."

You were thinking of porn then, don't blame yourself, happens to us all, all the time shocklaugh

Correcting carver is a full-time, f*cking 24/7 job. Just give up, it's pointless.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You were thinking of porn then, don't blame yourself, happens to us all, all the time shocklaugh

Correcting carver is a full-time, f*cking 24/7 job. Just give up, it's pointless.

Perhaps I was thinking of porn. Perhaps the video I made with.....Carter's mom. vin

And I shall never give-up the fight. It is easier correcting Carter on Xbox LIVE though. You can definitely hear the false sense of bravado in his voice. That he's doing his best not to break. 😄

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, how is this on topic?

Originally posted by -Pr-

Well, it's not, but.....doesn't proving Carter wrong get special treatment?

Originally posted by JBL
Who needs skills to slay someone with the black blade?? Does superman, flash, zoom, speed demon, impulse, quicksilver or runner need skill to kill the likes of thor, hercules, hulk, kurse, or each other with the black blade? Did beta ray bill need skills to use thors hammer? Did dargo need skills to beat people azzes with the hammer when he first got it? Did namor need skills to slay that serpent with the black blade? You dont need skills to use a sword to cut or kill someone. You already know what to do. Hulk never uses swords but he was going to cut juggernauts head off with a dagger.

Problem here is that Morg has a weapon as well, and he has a chance of blocking a strike from Gladiator, which is something that seems to be failing to get across to you. Don't tell me Gladiator is impossible to be blocked or hit either. Morg isn't the one that's under powered here, it's Gladiator, and as powerful as the sword is, nothing stops it from being removed from him by a superior swordsman. I don't know what you don't get about skill? You can't expect a normal guy on the street to win a fight against a seasoned fighter. He could win, but the odds would clearly be stacked against him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, how is this on topic?

It's not, but many Doctor's have discovered that there are multitudes of people that actually suffer from ADHD. A clear sign of this are poor grades in school, and the lack of being able to remain in one place for very long.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so Terrax doesn't have any wins whereas Gladiator does? Then you use lowshowings to try to help your argument? By the way, Wolverine claws has punched through an amped Thanos that had the IG. Imagine if he didn't have it.

You haven't said a thing proving Terrax wouldn't get mauled by Gladiator. I can post fts of his WINS if you want. Something that Terrax doesn't have.

Those losses can't be ignored though, because they give us a sense as to where this guy belongs in the big picture. It's a way to average him out. I don't believe that Gladiator even with the Ebony Blade would be able to defeat Terrax, the Silver Surfer, Nova (Frankie), Firelord, and Gabriel, and take minimal damage from them. Do you? Or do you believe that he would be too fast for their cosmic senses? Senses that Morg Possesses as well, and was able to push them to the point that the Surfer had to seek aid from Galactus, who then removed the PC from Morg for them to win. I don't see Gladiator is this grand of a light, nor should anyone, unless you want to compare the GOTC to the team of heralds that Morg would have killed, and was corroborated byt Terrax telling the Surfer that he had a good sense of what exactly they were up against.

People can hate on the character all they want, because Marvel turned a great idea into garbage, but this does not give anyone the right to attempt to ignore his level of power, or to place his IQ in the mentally challenged tier with Drax, Grundy, Bizarro, and Savage Hulk. He wasn;t the smartest out there, but I would place his intellect above the Absorbing Man's. After all he was able to find a way to increase his personal power by a great degree. So again, yes the blade could hurt Morg (Not sure about killing him due to the WOL) but Morg can hurt Gladiator more.

In fact odds are good that Morg would kill him, based on the huge power gap. Let's keep it real, it's not Morg that has to climb to Gladiator's level, it's Gladiator that has to climb to Morg's.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Well, it's not, but.....doesn't proving Carter wrong get special treatment?

Only when I or Bada do it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Only when I or Bada do it.

Then, can I PM you my responses to him and you post them? 😄

Originally posted by Stoic
Problem here is that Morg has a weapon as well, and he has a chance of blocking a strike from Gladiator, which is something that seems to be failing to get across to you. Don't tell me Gladiator is impossible to be blocked or hit either. Morg isn't the one that's under powered here, it's Gladiator, and as powerful as the sword is, nothing stops it from being removed from him by a superior swordsman. I don't know what you don't get about skill? You can't expect a normal guy on the street to win a fight against a seasoned fighter. He could win, but the odds would clearly be stacked against him.

It's not, but many Doctor's have discovered that there are multitudes of people that actually suffer from ADHD. A clear sign of this are poor grades in school, and the lack of being able to remain in one place for very long.

Those losses can't be ignored though, because they give us a sense as to where this guy belongs in the big picture. It's a way to average him out. I don't believe that Gladiator even with the Ebony Blade would be able to defeat Terrax, the Silver Surfer, Nova (Frankie), Firelord, and Gabriel, and take minimal damage from them. Do you? Or do you believe that he would be too fast for their cosmic senses? Senses that Morg Possesses as well, and was able to push them to the point that the Surfer had to seek aid from Galactus, who then removed the PC from Morg for them to win. I don't see Gladiator is this grand of a light, nor should anyone, unless you want to compare the GOTC to the team of heralds that Morg would have killed, and was corroborated byt Terrax telling the Surfer that he had a good sense of what exactly they were up against.

People can hate on the character all they want, because Marvel turned a great idea into garbage, but this does not give anyone the right to attempt to ignore his level of power, or to place his IQ in the mentally challenged tier with Drax, Grundy, Bizarro, and Savage Hulk. He wasn;t the smartest out there, but I would place his intellect above the Absorbing Man's. After all he was able to find a way to increase his personal power by a great degree. So again, yes the blade could hurt Morg (Not sure about killing him due to the WOL) but Morg can hurt Gladiator more.

In fact odds are good that Morg would kill him, based on the huge power gap. Let's keep it real, it's not Morg that has to climb to Gladiator's level, it's Gladiator that has to climb to Morg's.

Give up. The only real lose that you can lose as a low showing for Gladiator is his Gambit cards loss and that would be like me using Surfer getting taken out by some humans with a bat. I'm not debating this topic with you tonight. You think Morg wins, I think Gladiator wins. One of us is wrong and the majority is on my side and honestly, I'm so done with this thread that I don't care. Now move on.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You were thinking of porn then, don't blame yourself, happens to us all, all the time shocklaugh

Correcting carver is a full-time, f*cking 24/7 job. Just give up, it's pointless.

Stop trolling me before I sick Nihilist on you.

Originally posted by carver9
Give up. The only real lose that you can lose as a low showing for Gladiator is his Gambit cards loss

Originally posted by zopzop
And Corsair's laser gun.

What kind of gun was it? What properties did it have? Then you are bringing up old showings. Every Herald during that era had low showings. Hell, Surfer had more low showings than any of them. You don't see people bringing up Surfer being taken out with a bottle to the head or Thor being killed with a sniper bullet because those fts doesn't exist anymore. Moral of story...stop living in the past.

Originally posted by carter9
What kind of gun was it? What properties did it have? Then you are bringing up old showings. Every Herald during that era had low showings. Hell, Surfer had more low showings than any of them. You don't see people bringing up Surfer being taken out with a bottle to the head or Thor being killed with a sniper bullet because those fts doesn't exist anymore. Moral of story...stop living in the past.

He was merely replying to your claim that Gladiator's only bad showing was against Gambit. Calm down buddy. Need a hug? A Snickers? You're not yourself when you're hungry.