Originally posted by Stoic
you left out context, and now you're feigning ignorance to cover up the bs.
You clearly said Surfer read Rhino moves by using the cosmic awareness. You said that he stopped Rhino's bullrush. Where in that scan did he stop a bullrush from Rhino? If anyone is lying...it is you.
Cosmic Awareness: http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Cosmic_Awareness
Does Thanos move at hyper speeds? No. How is it that he is capable of tagging guys moving at him at light speed like the Fallen One? Could it be more than just common reaction speeds that help him with these kinds of feats? Could he be using Cosmic Awareness? He does possess cosmic powers after all. Morg does as well, just like all of the Heralds of Galactus. Captain Mar-Vell possessed it as well.
Originally posted by Stoic
Cosmic Awareness: http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Cosmic_AwarenessDoes Thanos move at hyper speeds? No. How is it that he is capable of tagging guys moving at him at light speed like the Fallen One? Could it be more than just common reaction speeds that help him with these kinds of feats? Could he be using Cosmic Awareness? He does possess cosmic powers after all. Morg does as well, just like all of the Heralds of Galactus. Captain Mar-Vell possessed it as well.
Prove that the fallen one was moving at light speed when he blitzed Thanos. Hulk has tagged Gladiator while Glads was moving at high speeds and be sure as hell doesn't have Cosmic awareness and Thor has tagged Surfer as well and he sure as hell doesn't have cosmic awareness. Morg doesn't fight like you think he does my friend.
Originally posted by carver9
You clearly said Surfer read Rhino moves by using the cosmic awareness. You said that he stopped Rhino's bullrush. Where in that scan did he stop a bullrush from Rhino? If anyone is lying...it is you.
I also clearly saw you leaving out context, and posting scans while leaving out the context of what happened before and after the scan that you posted in an attempt to sidestep the full truth behind the encounter. What really sucks is that you're continuing the charade. SMH.
Originally posted by carver9
Prove that the fallen one was moving at light speed when he blitzed Thanos. Hulk has tagged Gladiator while Glads was moving at high speeds and be sure as hell doesn't have Cosmic awareness and Thor has tagged Surfer as well and he sure as hell doesn't have cosmic awareness. Morg doesn't fight like you think he does my friend.
Prove it? Why don't you try to disprove it? The Surfer moved with such speed once that someone that could not react to the kind of speed that he was moving at, would not, and could not have reacted, when he traversed over a light year in a second to attempt to snatch the IG from him. So yeah why don't you try to disprove it?
Originally posted by Stoic
This is what happens when Heralds are written poorly. Cosmic Awareness is the same no matter what hero has it. Captain Mar-Vell had it, and it allows them a level of precognition. The Surfer exhibited this ability when he stopped the Rhino's bull-rush. You can always go to the respect thread and check it out for yourself. Does it make much sense to you that someone can fly through a thick asteroid field doing better than the speed of light and miss every single one, but would not be able to dodge one punch? Like I said, Gladiator would have a difficult time hitting a well written Herald focused on killing him. The power difference between the two is also huge.
Read your post. You state "Surfer stops Rhino Bullrush by using Cosmic awareness". I don't have to post anything else BESIDES the bullrush scene 'which I did'. In the bullrush scene we see Surfer FAILING to stop Rhino when you clearly stated that Surfer DID stop Rhino bullrush. Do you not see how false your post was? Just admit that you were wrong about that scene. If you asked about the outcome, yes, I would have agreed with you but your statement had nothing to do with the fight or any type of context. You simply said "Surfer STOPPED Rhino's bullrush which wasn't true, at all. Concede.
Originally posted by Stoic
Prove it? Why don't you try to disprove it? The Surfer moved with such speed once that someone that could not react to the kind of speed that he was moving at, would not, and could not have reacted, when he traversed over a light year in a second to attempt to snatch the IG from him. So yeah why don't you try to disprove it?
So we agree that Hulk and Thor reactions are faster than light? Good.
Thanos had the IG when he performed that ft against the Surfer. Hell, before Surfer even touch him we see his eye glow (like he knew it was coming). Thanos still had possession of the gems powers during that scene...the only thing he turned off was the sensory so that he would not know the heros next move.
Originally posted by carver9
So we agree that Hulk and Thor reactions are faster than light? Good.Thanos had the IG when he performed that ft against the Surfer. Hell, before Surfer even touch him we see his eye glow (like he knew it was coming). Thanos still had possession of the gems powers during that scene...the only thing he turned off was the sensory so that he would not know the heros next move.
He shut off the omnipotent portion of his abilities to show his superiority. He was putting on a show to impress Death. You know this, and if you don't now you do. Thor and the Hulk do not possess cosmic awareness. Morg, Thanos, and all of the Heralds of Galactus do. Read the definition of Cosmic Awareness, and leave out the PIS, because this is a forum debate, and then you will see why it is that Gladiator would lose this.
Originally posted by Stoic
He shut off the omnipotent portion of his abilities to show his superiority. He was putting on a show to impress Death. You know this, and if you don't now you do. Thor and the Hulk do not possess cosmic awareness. Morg, Thanos, and all of the Heralds of Galactus do. Read the definition of Cosmic Awareness, and leave out the PIS, because this is a forum debate, and then you will see why it is that Gladiator would lose this.
OMG. How about this...provide a scan stating that Thanos turned off the omnipotent portion of his power and I will provide a scan showing where it was stated Thanos turned off his sensory. Deal?
Originally posted by carver9
OMG. How about this...provide a scan stating that Thanos turned off the omnipotent portion of his power and I will provide a scan showing where it was stated Thanos turned off his sensory. Deal?
He said that he was doing it when he was fighting the Heroes. It's right there. I don't do scans, because i have no way of doing them, I do not have my comics with me, they are in another country. However I'm sure that I don't have to do this, because you know full well of that which I am speaking of. You also now know what Cosmic Awareness means. Now you can just concede. Gladiator loses, because Morg doesn't have to ever allow him to ever get close enough to swing the blade, he could omni blast him, rush in, and rip his face off.
Originally posted by carver9
OMG. How about this...provide a scan stating that Thanos turned off the omnipotent portion of his power and I will provide a scan showing where it was stated Thanos turned off his sensory. Deal?
Wait a second. Are you saying that the Heroes gave Thanos a tougher fight than the Cosmic Abstracts that he routed with ease? Please tell me that this is not what you believe happened.
Originally posted by Stoic
When you do, make sure you post the entire thing, and not just a piece.
I don't need to post the entire comic since it is clear, cut on what Thanos is saying.
"I will cut myself off from Sensory input from the gems BUT I will still retain LIMITLESS POWER". This will prevent me from knowing my opponent next move.
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I think you are a cool guy Stoic but da**. Now let's move back to the topic at hand. Gladiator wins since nothing has been proven otherwise.
What Gem remained in use Carver? Power, that is all. He only fought with Power. Now back to the topic at hand, Morg is more powerful than Gladiator without the Waters of Life and only the Power Cosmic, now you add both of them, and you expect Gladiator to win? Morg was radiating power, and like I said, he flexed and turned a large planet with a real population of beings that existed on that planet for thousands of years to dust by just flexing. Even if this did not kill Gladiator, it would stun the shit out of him, and Morg wasn't the type to stop until he killed his opponent. This is what he would do to Gladiator. He would stun him, and kill him, if not outright kill him with his first assault. What stops this from happening Carver?
Originally posted by Stoic
What Gem remained in use Carver? Power, that is all. He only fought with Power. Now back to the topic at hand, Morg is more powerful than Gladiator without the Waters of Life and only the Power Cosmic, now you add both of them, and you expect Gladiator to win? Morg was radiating power, and like I said, he flexed and turned a large planet with a real population of beings that existed on that planet for thousands of years to dust by just flexing. Even if this did not kill Gladiator, it would stun the shit out of him, and Morg wasn't the type to stop until he killed his opponent. This is what he would do to Gladiator. He would stun him, and kill him, if not outright kill him with his first assault. What stops this from happening Carver?
Never stated. He said that he is only cutting off the sensory...not the gems entirety. The gems that he named, all of them aid in sensory output minus the power gem. The only ft that Morg has that's even worth mentioning here is his fight against the Heralds. The rest, Gladiator has either exceeded or replicated.
On top of this, when Thanos turned off the other Gems, he retains his natural powers, which included his cosmic powers of awareness, which is how he reacted to the Surfer trying to steal the Gauntlet from him unless I'm mistaken. Like it or not, Morg was gifted with the same abilities that the Surfer is gifted with, but he still has the WOL in this thread, which makes him even more powerful, as seen when he nearly killed all of the Heralds. I don't see how this is so difficult for you to understand? Gladiator is way out of his league here, even with the blade. He would never get the chance to use it in a non PIS scenario. Why? Because Morg would sense it coming far before it came to some hyper fighting situation.
I'm not saying that the blade could not cut Morg, I'm saying that Gladiator would never get the chance to.
Originally posted by carver9
Never stated. He said that he is only cutting off the sensory...not the gems entirety. The gems that he named, all of them aid in sensory output minus the power gem. The only ft that Morg has that's even worth mentioning here is his fight against the Heralds. The rest, Gladiator has either exceeded or replicated.
Oh boy. You better go back and re-read that scan.
Gladiator has flexed, and destroyed a planet?
Originally posted by zopzop
The sword has killed a SKYFATHER. It's like the last fight, whoever lands the first clean hit wins.
I never said that the blade would not be able to cut Morg. I'm contending that Gladiator would never get the chance due to Morg's cosmic awareness in play. Surely you understand this?