Originally posted by pr1983
you know for a long time a few of us have been saying cage (real name linden ashby) would have been a better cyke...if its so obvious to all of us how did they not choose him?
fi... 😛
Yea i know thats why i said him cuz i remember someone mentioned him on this thread, he really would have been great...
and i think they did know it but Bryan Singer has his little crew that he likes to work with and he wont change for anything
Originally posted by pr1983
i am only counting people who are PRO athletes... college ones i dont mind...
Ok, I have another... Do you like Dwayne Johnson? You may know him better as The Rock. He has grown to be a very popular actor, and yes.... he was a pro athlete.. Canadian Football League.
Oh and Fi and Pr... uh, are ya'll trying to make us blush? or do you two need a little time alone??? inlove
Lisa-j: Ok I try to be open,so I will ask you, What about Paquin do you see that is worth a damn in her acting? confused1
Even supporting actors must have something that others can feed off of on screen. She is too black hole. acting and lead-ins go in....NOTHING comes out. But I will listen to what you have to say: hypocrite
Originally posted by nimbus006
Yea i know thats why i said him cuz i remember someone mentioned him on this thread, he really would have been great...and i think they did know it but Bryan Singer has his little crew that he likes to work with and he wont change for anything
yeah i agree...
Originally posted by poncho73
Ok, I have another... Do you like Dwayne Johnson? You may know him better as The Rock. He has grown to be a very popular actor, and yes.... he was a pro athlete.. Canadian Football League.Oh and Fi and Pr... uh, are ya'll trying to make us blush? or do you two need a little time alone??? inlove
Lisa-j: Ok I try to be open,so I will ask you, What about Paquin do you see that is worth a damn in her acting? confused1
Even supporting actors must have something that others can feed off of on screen. She is too black hole. acting and lead-ins go in....NOTHING comes out. But I will listen to what you have to say: hypocrite
the rock? one of my favourite wrestlers ever... acting ability? not sure...
me and fi are fine thank you 😄
I remember Singer saying something about it being tougher to play a part without using your eyes for expressing your emotions and apparently Singer thought Marsden was capable of expressing himself using the other parts of his face and body. I thought he did a good enough job, the part just wasn't written that well for matching the personality of the comic Cyclops we all are used to. Tyler Mane pretty much got jacked in the same way in my opinion. Most comic fans already knew how dangerous Sabretooth was from reading about him so Singer had to sell that same ferosity the the mainstream audience with only about ten minutes of screen time to work with, and most of it badly fighting Wolverine. Singer's answer? Make Sabretooth more beastial to convey that same sense of ferosity. Mane couldn't help the fact he had to growl and crap. Singer put him up to that. Personally, I loved Mane as Sabretooth. That may be because I'm a bit partial to that character, but I've seen many who disagree with me because he wasn't a clone of the character in the comics.
Most comic fans need to understand the people at Fox couldn't give a rat's ass about us. We will pay to watch the movie pretty much no matter what. The people they are trying to get to buy tickets are the same people who think comics are hokey and childish. That is why there are so many character changes. How stupid would it sound the the mainstream people that Mystique is Sabretooth's lover, Nightcrawler's mother and Rogue's adopted mother? Character changes were nesessary to keep the movie more realistic and watchable, and after seeing Brandon Routh in his Superman outfit, I'm pretty freakin' happy they threw out the yellow spandex and went with the black leather. I just hope they drop the whole Cytorrak thing and make him a mutant or else the mainstream will really hate him. I also hope they leave Angel out of the movie altogether. How many movies have you seen with winged people that didn't come off as corny? They couldn't even get it to look right in Dogma, which rocked out loud by the way.
The one character I just couldn't let slide however, was the timid Storm. I don't know if it was due to Berry's acting or the script, but in my opinion Storm should have had much more confidence and presence. That's why I suggested Dawson play her. Dawson's portrayal of Gail in Sin City was anthing but timid. It doesn't hurt that she would look great in a leather body suit either. Berry just plays better victims than aggressive women. Gothika? Great! Catwoman? WTF!?! You can say that last one was the script and pretty much everything else that sucked about that movie, but I didn't think she was all that impressive in Swordfish either.Maybe I should take it easy on Berry. Not everyone can be Hugh Jackman after all.
I remember Singer saying something about it being tougher to play a part without using your eyes for expressing your emotions and apparently Singer thought Marsden was capable of expressing himself using the other parts of his face and body. I thought he did a good enough job, the part just wasn't written that well for matching the personality of the comic Cyclops we all are used to. Tyler Mane pretty much got jacked in the same way in my opinion. Most comic fans already knew how dangerous Sabretooth was from reading about him so Singer had to sell that same ferocity the the mainstream audience with only about ten minutes of screen time to work with, and most of it badly fighting Wolverine. Singer's answer? Make Sabretooth more bestial to convey that same sense of ferocity. Mane couldn't help the fact he had to growl and crap. Singer put him up to that. Personally, I loved Mane as Sabretooth. That may be because I'm a bit partial to that character, but I've seen many who disagree with me because he wasn't a clone of the character in the comics.
Most comic fans need to understand the people at Fox couldn't give a rat's ass about us. We will pay to watch the movie pretty much no matter what. The people they are trying to get to buy tickets are the same people who think comics are hokey and childish. That is why there are so many character changes. How stupid would it sound the the mainstream people that Mystique is Sabretooth's lover, Nightcrawler's mother and Rogue's adopted mother? Character changes were necessary to keep the movie more realistic and watchable, and after seeing Brandon Routh in his Superman outfit, I'm pretty freakin' happy they threw out the yellow spandex and went with the black leather. I just hope they drop the whole Cytorrak thing and make him a mutant or else the mainstream will really hate him. I also hope they leave Angel out of the movie altogether. How many movies have you seen with winged people that didn't come off as corny? They couldn't even get it to look right in Dogma, which rocked out loud by the way.
The one character I just couldn't let slide however, was the timid Storm. I don't know if it was due to Berry's acting or the script, but in my opinion Storm should have had much more confidence and presence. That's why I suggested Dawson play her. Dawson's portrayal of Gail in Sin City was anything but timid. It doesn't hurt that she would look great in a leather body suit either. Berry just plays better victims than aggressive women. Gothika? Great! Catwoman? WTF!?! You can say that last one was the script and pretty much everything else that sucked about that movie, but I didn't think she was all that impressive in Swordfish either.Maybe I should take it easy on Berry. Not everyone can be Hugh Jackman after all.
Originally posted by Sabretooth
I remember Singer saying something about it being tougher to play a part without using your eyes for expressing your emotions and apparently Singer thought Marsden was capable of expressing himself using the other parts of his face and body. I thought he did a good enough job, the part just wasn't written that well for matching the personality of the comic Cyclops we all are used to. Tyler Mane pertty much got jacked in the same way in my opinion. Most comic fans already knew how dangerous Sabretooth was from reading about him so Singer had to sell that same ferosity the the mainstream audience with only about ten minutes of screen time to work with, and most of it badly fighting Wolverine. Singer's answer? Make Sabretooth more beastial to convey that same sense of ferosity. Mane couldn't help the fact he had to growl and crap. Singer put him up to that. Personally, I loved Mane as Sabretooth. That may be because I'm a bit partial to that character, but I've seen many who disagree with me because he wasn't a clone of the character in the comics.Most comic fans need to understand the people at Fox couldn't give a rat's ass about us. We will pay to watch the movie pretty much no matter what. The people they are trying to get to buy tickets are the same people who think comics are hokey and childish. That is why there are so many character changes. How stupid would it sound the the mainstream people that Mystique is Sabretooth's lover, Nightcrawler's mother and Rogue's adopted mother? Character changes were nesessary to keep the movie more realistic and watchable, and after seeing Brandon Routh in his Superman outfit, I'm pretty freakin' happy they threw out the yellow spandex and went with the black leather. I just hope they drop the whole Cytorrak thing and make him a mutant or else the mainstream will really hate him. I also hope they leave Angel out of the movie altogether. How many movies have you seen with winged people that didn't come off as corny? They couldn't even get it to look right in Dogma, which rocked out loud by the way.
The one character I just couldn't let slide however, was the timid Storm. I don't know if it was due to Berry's acting or the script, but in my opinion Storm should have had much more confidence and presence. That's why I suggested Dawson play her. Dawson's portrayal of Gail in Sin City was anthing but timid. It doesn't hurt that she would look great in a leather body suit either. Berry just plays better victims than aggressive women. Gothika? Great! Catwoman? WTF!?! You can say that last one was the script and pretty much everything else that sucked about that movie, but I didn't think she was all that impressive in Swordfish either. Maybe I should take it easy on Berry. Not everyone can be Hugh Jackman after all.
i agree with most of that except the wings part... constantine had some sweet wing effects...
Originally posted by Sabretooth
Gah! Stupid double-post! Dammit why do computers and I have to hate eachother? Anyway...Haven't seen Constantine yet so maybe that'll change my mind. From what I've heard about constantine I wouldn't bet on it though.
the film isnt anything special, but the wing effects are cool...
Originally posted by ayjay
definetly....the way they did the wings was really good...but.....gabriel didnt have to fly...it would be MUCH harder to show angel putting those wings to use. If done badly..it could come off as a GIANT disaster....
true...
Originally posted by Fionnuala
🙄 ..some people...
😛 nice sig btw...
Originally posted by poncho73I've seen every movie she's done and think she's proved she can act.Not only has she won a oscar(which i'd like to see you do)but she get's great critic reviews on almost all her roles.Especially her stage work,which is supposed to be the most challaging of acting work.She has also been nominated for a few stage awards,which in imo means she is considered a good actress by the ppl who are in the know.You may disagree with me and that's your choice but I do think she is an asset to the x-men movies,and i'd be pissed off if she doesn't return. 😛Lisa-j: Ok I try to be open,so I will ask you, What about Paquin do you see that is worth a damn in her acting? confused1
Even supporting actors must have something that others can feed off of on screen. She is too black hole. acting and lead-ins go in....NOTHING comes out. But I will listen to what you have to say: hypocrite
Originally posted by LISA-J
I've seen every movie she's done and think she's proved she can act.Not only has she won a oscar(which i'd like to see you do)but she get's great critic reviews on almost all her roles.Especially her stage work,which is supposed to be the most challaging of acting work.She has also been nominated for a few stage awards,which in imo means she is considered a good actress by the ppl who are in the know.You may disagree with me and that's your choice but I do think she is an asset to the x-men movies,and i'd be pissed off if she doesn't return. 😛
firstly... they gave an oscar to marissa tomei...
second... i actually like paquin, but she hasnt done a good movie in a long time...
third... some people just arent cut out to do comic movies, just like some cant do comedy...
She hasn't done a good movie in a while cause with the exception of the squid and the whale (which isn't on general release yet-so you can't judge) she hasn't done any movies since x-3.Darkness was filmed before x-2 and was delayed in it's release,the last three yrs she's been doing on and off broadway plays-which she always got good reviews for.As for her not being cut out for comic movies,on one side of the argument your right-cause when I heard she was cast as rogue I was like WTF,but after watching x-1 I really liked how she protrayed the character(in fact she was my favourit in the movie).But your wrong on the half,cause we don't know what anna can do as she wasn't given the chance to show rogue in full combat and that was singers fault not hers.In x-3 i'm sure she'll kick-ass and look believable doing it-afterall who thought I an mckellen could oull it off.If you don't agree well tough.lol
Originally posted by LISA-J
She hasn't done a good movie in a while cause with the exception of the squid and the whale (which isn't on general release yet-so you can't judge) she hasn't done any movies since x-3.Darkness was filmed before x-2 and was delayed in it's release,the last three yrs she's been doing on and off broadway plays-which she always got good reviews for.As for her not being cut out for comic movies,on one side of the argument your right-cause when I heard she was cast as rogue I was like WTF,but after watching x-1 I really liked how she protrayed the character(in fact she was my favourit in the movie).But your wrong on the half,cause we don't know what anna can do as she wasn't given the chance to show rogue in full combat and that was singers fault not hers.In x-3 i'm sure she'll kick-ass and look believable doing it-afterall who thought I an mckellen could oull it off.If you don't agree well tough.lol
you cant blame singer if she's shit (not completely anyway)... if she was good she'd get all the credit, but when she's crap people seem to blame singer...
darkness was shit...
i'm sure she was wonderful in her plays, it seems to be where she excels...
and mckellan is a legend... i'd be surprised if anybody doubted him...
Originally posted by LISA-J
Your not getting my point it is singers fault rogue didn't get any fight scenes.so we don't know what anna can do in does scenes,she could be great we don't know yet,so you can't say she's not cut out for comic movies.
i got your point...
fight scenes are nothing, i can do fight scenes... its her acting that wasnt good enough, so i can imo say from what ive seen that she cant do it...
and not forgetting paquin would most likely have a stunt double...
blaming singer is just avoiding the problem...
look... paquin was by no means the worst (marsden, ashmore and berry hold that honour), but when i look at paquin i just dont see rogue, and im not even talking about the fight scenes (or lack of), im talking about portrayal of the character...
sorry, i have nothing against paquin, but i think she should stick to broadway and drama... cos thats what shes good at...