Freddy Krueger Vs Joker

Freddy in his comics appearances is portrayed same as the movies, which is to say, pretty powerful. But can he really go up against the Joker??? PREDCNU Joker. Stats for both below, pics above because they looked cool...

FREDDY
While his "avatar" was dreaming, Freddy could control their dreams to his whim, manipulating them to his liking. Any physical harm done on a person in their dream would become a reality and carry on into their real lives. For example, if he cut a person's stomach, when that person woke up he/she would have cuts on their stomach. With this ability, it's easy for him to commit numerous murders, hence why he has harmed and killed multiple people. Freddy constantly plays with his victims appearance and his surroundings, most often resembling their real world home. His powers increased at the rate of kids believing he existed. At his prime, he could cause critical damage in the real world. Among this variety of options included possession of humans. If Freddy is in close contact with someone he's affecting, (i.e, choking someone in their sleep etc.), Freddy comes into the real world along with his victim where he has superhuman strength and durability.
In his victim's dreams, Freddy could use their fears and personalities against them. A few of his victims somehow managed to use their imagination to manipulate their dreams to battle him. Another of Freddy's powers included absorbing the souls of his victim which increased his already high power. A mark of this is their faces on his chest.

JOKER
Due to his mental state, the Joker is immune to fear as he does not understand the concept and sees everything as a joke. He also has an immunity to poison due to prolonged exposure to chemicals. The Scarecrow's fear gas has no effect on him, and Visionary failed to hypnotize him. He and Poison Ivy have shown immunity to each others' chemicals. He possesses a very high tolerance for pain. Bullets seem to do little more than slow him down or put him out of commission temporarily. On several occasions, he has been known to survive explosions and crashes. His bones heal quickly, and it has been hinted that he does not physically age.
The Joker is a genius inventor and chemist. He has managed to create an MO which fits his macabre appearance. The Joker is immune to his own venom as well as various similar toxins. The Joker is an excellent marksman. The Joker has occasionally demonstrated above average hand to hand combat skills.
The Joker does not possess any outright super-human powers; however, It is suggested that he is "super-sane;" this means that he sees how the universe really is, without any personal illusions, and that his entire personality can alter to fit the circumstances, making him excellent at impersonating and lying as he truly believes what he says. He has the great strength that madmen are often said to have, and is quite agile.
It is debatable if it classifies as a super power or not, but the Joker's insanity, or his frame of mind, leaves him immune to the Spectre's judgement. Both Jim Corrigan and Hal Jordan Spectres have had major problems with navigating the Joker's mind.

He isn't immune to fear, though. He still fears Batman, as shown in Emperor Joker.

Truth.
I'd say Joker's about the most fearless person Freddy could take on though, and definitely someone who wouldnt be intimidated.

I am curious how freddy would perceive joker. Krueger usually has innate knowledge of his victims but it doesn't seem to be telepathy. He usually knows every corner of their thoughts, fears and histories. He could possibly know jokers real origin.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He isn't immune to fear, though. He still fears Batman, as shown in Emperor Joker.

Movie Freddy wins against movie Joker (any version).

Comics... Freddy could probably find something in him.

The biggest joke is someone like Spectre having trouble with Joker mind. Almost like somone like Living Tribunal would have problem with his mind 🙂

Someone like them should be able to cure Joker insanity or his mind with a simple thought.

MM/Fernus was able to cure him, seemingly effortlessly 👆

Joker loses

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
I am curious how freddy would perceive joker. Krueger usually has innate knowledge of his victims but it doesn't seem to be telepathy. He usually knows every corner of their thoughts, fears and histories. He could possibly know jokers real origin.

Nah, Fernus sanitised him for days/weeks, effortlessly, along with every other inmate in Arkham and every other insane criminal. Subconsciously.

Along with effectively lobotomising Lex Luthor.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nah, Fernus sanitised him for days/weeks, effortlessly, along with every other inmate in Arkham and every other insane criminal. Subconsciously.

Along with effectively lobotomising Lex Luthor.

Yah, true.

I'm just saying, Freddy preys on your fears and kills you with that. Joker's only hope is in realising that he's in a dream, and turning the tables on Freddy.

Possible, considering Joker at times knows he's in a comic, but in the absence of any other information (don't forget, the teenagers only defeated Freddy because they figured out people were dying from their dreams) I doubt it.

Well, you sort of made my point for me (and thanks for not taking my low opinion of the sanity fall back the wrong way). Joker is very self aware. He can see things in ways others cant, and his personality shifts accordingly. Someone invading his dreams might amuse him to no end.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
MM/Fernus was able to cure him, seemingly effortlessly 👆

Originally posted by SamZED
MM didn't really cure him, he temporarily managed to make him "sane" it was a great effort for him and he only managed to keep that up for seconds. Also we don't even know if he really "cured" him or temporarily mindraped to make him normal by our standarts.

I said Fernus/MM because at the time, MM was still in control-ish, so I didn't know whose power actually did it. Not referring to the Rock of Ages storyline.

Originally posted by riv6672
I wasnt talking Fernus, just MM (same guy, i know). And again, the fact is the make him sane and win argument's just conjecture. If it were that easy, Joker would have been done with ages ago.
I've seen this argument twice now since getting here and havent bought it either time. Its kind of a lazy fall back.
If thats the only, very iffy way people can think of to beat the Joker, its actually pretty telling as to his level of badassery.

Actually it would be easy... but then we just wouldn't have old Joker anymore.

Both are psychos.

Yes Joker is more self-aware than humans whom Freddy faced, but so is Freddy. Both of them have much higher awareness.

But still, if Freddy would choose to kill him, he would, he doesn't need much to kill him.

And everyone who stopped Freddy... sooner or later Freddy returned and finished them.

Freddy could just outright kill him. He doesn't need to exploit any weaknesses. This is a stomp.

Wow, i totally disagree with most of the last few posts. Lumping Joker in with Pre 21 Jump Street Johnny Depp is just wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by riv6672
Wow, i totally disagree with most of the last few posts. Lumping Joker in with Pre 21 Jump Street Johnny Depp is just wrong. 🙂

Of course not, but Freddy is also psycho, wouldn't hold back, especially not on someone like Joker, and could just outright kill him.

People keep saying that.
If he were able to just kill someone on Joker's level that easily, there never would have been any movies, as those kids would never have offered any resistance.

This is like saying some mook off the street can just shoot Batman dead. I'm not wrong. I'm not lying.
But really, is that going to happen? No.