Freddy Krueger Vs Joker

Started by SamZED3 pages

Originally posted by riv6672
Mine is exposure of my browser history, which shows what i've been playing with....😬

Been there.

Hell still am...

Who isn't?

Originally posted by Xplosive

The biggest joke is someone like Spectre having trouble with Joker mind. Almost like somone like Living Tribunal would have problem with his mind 🙂

The reason Joker was able to resist Hal-Spectre's mindrape was because it happened at the time of Joker's Last Laugh (that's the name of a story arc) when his mind became more powerful as a result of being psychically connected to the Jokerized characters. In Joker's Last Laugh, Joker thought he was dying (although later this was disproven) so he started jokerizing most of the super villain community which he became psychically connected to.

And Corrigan-Spectre had problems with the Joker only due to the fact that he was weakened from previous stories. Two issues prior to the Joker story, Spectre gets stabbed by the spear of destiny, and even the Joker issue itself says that Spectre is weakened.

Context's important, you know.

Originally posted by Epicurus

Why? The Joker's mind is so badly damaged, that possessing Mxy's powers resulted in the universe going kaboom.

There's a Pre-crisis issue (DC Comics Presents #72), where Joker also managed to take possession of Maaldor's powers, and his control over that power was greater than Maaldor's simply due to his sheer level of insanity. Thing is, Maaldor was a multiversal power in that issue, he was actually threatening the whole multiverse, and pre-crisis we all know that means infinite universes.

Originally posted by golem370
Biggest fear for Joker is no Batman to play with?

Depends on which comic you're going with. For instance, in Detective Comics #664 (Knightfall) Scarecrow tried to uncover Joker's phobia to no apparent effect; in Titans, he apparently had a fear but nothing specific was mentioned. But yeah, one could say that his biggest fear is not to have Batman around; this was after all the reason why he couldn't kill him in Emperor Joker and kept on re-creating him. And in Batman LTDK #65 he supposedly kills Batman (although he's later revealed to be alive, but point is, Joker actually thought that Batman was finally dead) and when he does so, (in the next issue) he actually becomes sane and goes on to have a girlfriend for 3 months looking like a perfectly normal and sane person.

I still dont see where any of that puts Joker at a level with the movie teens.

Don't recall anything about Joker's mind being enhanced in the Last Laugh story. But it's been years since I've read it.

Originally posted by SamZED
Don't recall anything about Joker's mind being enhanced in the Last Laugh story. But it's been years since I've read it.

What i was referring to happened in a tie-in not in the main 6 issue arc (minus Secret Files & Origins), that's why perhaps you don't recall it. Here's the scan which outright states it:

http://i.imgur.com/sntSzGB.jpg

Edit: I couldn't name everyone that Joker jokerized by that time, since there are too numerous, but it was definitely global. That tie-in takes place after Joker Last Laugh #3, where that's how we see the Earth:

http://i.imgur.com/uwtQt9k.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/d8gvJUb.jpg

Cool thanks, didn't see that.

Joker's a beast.