Darth Tyranus vs Vitiate

Started by SIDIOUS 666 pages
Originally posted by Nephthys
Vitiate showed clear intent to bring the temple down. And as I told you, he wasn't even dead at the time in the lightside ending.

Marek showed intent to destroy the imperials on the Death Star, but it wasn't a TK feat he used.

Vitiate was dying, though, and you can clearly see energy being released from his body, which reached the top of the ceiling causing it to collapse. Unless I'm remembering the scene wrong.

Originally posted by carthage
Four featless Jedi masters with nowhere near the accolades or force abilities of Dooku. 👆

Which wouldn't matter even if that were true, since their cumulative power eclipses his.

Dooku was ragdolled by Sidious from across the galaxy. At best Vitiate disposes of him with a modicum more effort.

Which wouldn't matter even if that were true, since their cumulative power eclipses his.

Dooku was ragdolled by Sidious from across the galaxy. At best Vitiate disposes of him with a modicum more effort.

Call me when they can hold their own against Yoda, can lift multiple obelisks weighing tons, fight faster than can be perceived, withstand blows that are as strong as meteor strikes, and defeat two of the Jedi order's best fighters at once.

Dooku is superior and his TK feats are superior to Vitiate. There is nothing Vitiate has done sans nexus that is comparable to Dooku's feats.

Originally posted by carthage
Call me when they can hold their own against Yoda, can lift multiple obelisks weighing tons, fight faster than can be perceived, withstand blows that are as strong as meteor strikes, and defeat two of the Jedi order's best fighters at once.

Dooku is superior and his TK feats are superior to Vitiate. There is nothing Vitiate has done sans nexus that is comparable to Dooku's feats.

Are you simple, or just incredibly biased? I just said that they don't need to be capable of doing that stuff since there's 4 of them so it's their combined power against Dooku's. And Dooku is not coming out a head in that exchange.

Dooku can't hold his own in a Force contest, we saw that when Sidious ragdolled him and Yoda is every bit Sidious' equal. The Barsen'thor can lift more than Dooku and the Hero is more powerful than she is. Meteor strikes is baby-obvious hyperbole. The Hero defeated Scourge.


He was fine enough seeing Revan fighting in their fast paced fight. [/B]

Well, that wasn't on neutral ground. The idea of Dooku blitzing a high caliber Sith Lord is retarded though.

Are you simple, or just incredibly biased? I just said that they don't need to be capable of doing that stuff since there's 4 of them so it's their combined power against Dooku's. And Dooku is not coming out a head in that exchange.

None of their feats combined even come close to Dooku, much less people Dooku has defeated in combat lol. Once again they've never fought the tier of fighters Dooku has, and Vitiate has proven nothing by defeating the examples your using. Vitiate sans prep and nexus has nothing even remotely close to Dooku in showings. Try again Nephy

Dooku can't hold his own in a Force contest, we saw that when Sidious ragdolled him and Yoda is every bit Sidious' equal. The Barsen'thor can lift more than Dooku and the Hero is more powerful than she is. Meteor strikes is baby-obvious hyperbole. The Hero defeated Scourge.

Yoda isn't Sidious equal in the force, lol. Also I already said Vitiate might take one or two rounds based on his illusions which Dooku has demonstrated a susceptibility too. Scourge also has NOWHERE near the feats of Anakin apart from game mechanics and killing hordes of fodder.


Dooku is superior and his TK feats are superior to Vitiate. There is nothing Vitiate has done sans nexus that is comparable to Dooku's feats.

To be fair, I don't think we've ever seen him off-nexus lol.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well, that wasn't on neutral ground. The idea of Dooku blitzing a high caliber Sith Lord is retarded though.

Not as retarded as Vitiate surviving a close encounter with one of the best duelists in SW history in close quarters combat.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
To be fair, I don't think we've ever seen him off-nexus lol.

There is the space station fortress, and his numerous accolades.

I forgot: Why do people think his space station is a nexus? 😬

Originally posted by carthage
Not as retarded as Vitiate surviving a close encounter with one of the best duelists in SW history in close quarters combat.

As somebody already pointed out, he survived the Hero's attack that began when the Hero's lightsaber was a foot from his face. And this was while he was weakened.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Marek showed intent to destroy the imperials on the Death Star, but it wasn't a TK feat he used.

Vitiate was dying, though, and you can clearly see energy being released from his body, which reached the top of the ceiling causing it to collapse. Unless I'm remembering the scene wrong.

Yeah, he used an explosion of energy, which Vitiate didn't. 👆

Instead the temple clearly shook from TK before any energy was released from his body. And the energy wasn't shown affecting the room or being potent enough for that. Watch the scene again:

YouTube video

You see chunks fall from the ceiling before any energy appears. And no, it doesn't reach the ceiling.

Vitiate wasn't dying in the lightside ending. The HoT says they'll take him to Coruscant to stand trial, so his wounds were obviously nonfatal.

Well for one, it's in orbit of Dromund Kaas, one of the strongest of any Dark Side Nexus. Secondly, it's oozing some kind of red aura mist stuff, I don't trust it. Thirdly, it's where Vitiate is. Finally, it's core was built by the Rakata--And they're infamous for making Nexusy Devicees.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
As somebody already pointed out, he survived the Hero's attack that began when the Hero's lightsaber was a foot from his face. And this was while he was weakened.

Weakened, and within an immensely strong concentration of the Dark Side. Also, in the canonical choice Scourge says you've given Vitiate time to recover his strength.

As part of a strike team ala how Revan or Tythy did, he'd be useful, but on his own? That's not happening.

Originally posted by carthage
None of their feats combined even come close to Dooku, much less people Dooku has defeated in combat lol. Once again they've never fought the tier of fighters Dooku has, and Vitiate has proven nothing by defeating the examples your using. Vitiate sans prep and nexus has nothing even remotely close to Dooku in showings. Try again Nephy.

Oh ok, so you're just stupid and don't understand the meaning of the words "cumulative" or "combined." I'll put it in baby language so you understand better:

Dooku's power = 6

Even if the Strike Team member's are only 3's in power each, theres 4 of them.

3 x 4 = 12.

They would still be twice as powerful as him added together.

Originally posted by carthage
Yoda isn't Sidious equal in the force, lol. Also I already said Vitiate might take one or two rounds based on his illusions which Dooku has demonstrated a susceptibility too. Scourge also has NOWHERE near the feats of Anakin apart from game mechanics and killing hordes of fodder.

Cool story bro, but I'm pretty sure it's directly stated that Yoda and Sidious are equals in the Force in a source and well, the movie. 😬

Against someone with AoE attacks as powerful as Vitiate's, the advantage of fighting in a group is void. A singular, powerful entity like the Act III Hero fared a lot better than the five elite Jedi in Act II did.

Even if the Hero is superior to Vitiate in one on one combat, he still probably couldn't top that strike team that Vitiate demolished.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well for one, it's in orbit of Dromund Kaas, one of the strongest of any Dark Side Nexus. Secondly, it's oozing some kind of red aura mist stuff, I don't trust it. Thirdly, it's where Vitiate is.

👆

Oh ok, so you're just stupid and don't understand the meaning of the words "cumulative" or "combined." I'll put it in baby language so you understand better:

Dooku's power = 6

]Even if the Strike Team member's are only 3's in power each, theres 4 of them.

3 x 4 = 12.

They would still be twice as powerful as him added together.

Feats >your pitifiul analogies. Come back again when they've actually done something other than lose to Vitshit in orbit around a darkside nexus. Nice try Neph.

Originally posted by carthage
Yeah doubtful considering he has no good speed feats to suggest he can even perceive Dooku's movements.

But you two fanboys can rationalize it all you want

dude please stop.