Darth Tyranus vs Vitiate

Started by Stigma6 pages

In close quarters Dooku decimates, but if the fight start with a considerable distance between them, Vitiate has the chance to overwhelm Dooku with his force abilities.

Maybe again Dooku has shown a susceptibility to illusions. Doubt Vitiate would get the chance to do that a majority of the time though

The Hero of Tython didn't decimate in close quarters. Dooku won't.

Dooku is the superior duelist to HoT IMHO.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Hero of Tython didn't decimate in close quarters. Dooku won't.

Yeah, because Vitiate can magically deflect a saber strike from someone who fights faster than can be perceived. Lol. We've all seen how good Vitiate is when he comes up close to a lightsaber, he dies.

Originally posted by Stigma
Dooku is the superior duelist to HoT IMHO.

Yeah but he isn't though.

Sure he is. Prove otherwise with opponents who actually have feats on par with defeating Anakin, Obi Wan, Tholme, Sora Bulq, and stalemating Yoda. Ohhh wait you can't!

Originally posted by carthage
Sure he is. Prove otherwise with opponents who actually have feats on par with defeating Anakin, Obi Wan, Tholme, Sora Bulq, and stalemating Yoda. Ohhh wait you can't!

I'm not sure about "stalemating Yoda" but other than that seems legit 👆

Dooku seems also to be faster and is described numerous times as a legendary swordsman, absolute master of Makashi.
No such accolodate for HoT though.

The Hero is described as a legendary swordsman actually.

Yeah, I wouldn't expect any less of the Hero. Obi-Wan Kenobi was a legendary swordsman too, though.

Seriously?

Emperor Vitiate will utterly destroy Dooku. This is not even a battle for the former.

Originally posted by carthage
Because Vitiate has never demonstrated any feats at all without being in close proximity to any area or place deep in darkside energy

He is useless without a nexus, unless otherwise demonstrated


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Prove that Emperor Vitiate benefitted from regions strong in the dark side.

Originally posted by carthage
Biased in what? That I challenge the fact that Vitiate bereft of any of his numerous advantages he utilized to kill featless/weaker opponents can't stand against a canonically superior fighter on neutral ground? Ok.

Canonically superior fighter? You need to get your head examined.

Originally posted by carthage
Had Vitiate demonstrated any significant showings off of a nexus, he'd win by virtue of them being of a higher magnitude than Dooku's showings. He hasn't and you're persistent deflection of my points and constant reiterations of nexus feats prove he can't. I don't expect a response because its simply something you'e incapable of demonstrating without trite sarcasm

Emperor Vitiate have controlled thousands of Sith Lords, some much bigger threats then Dooku. By virtue of this achievement alone, Emperor Vitiate is on a whole new level in comparison to Dooku.

Emperor Vitiate wasn't present on the frontlines but his minions were and they were absolutely deadly and every bit as impressive as Dooku or even more.

Just look at the example of Exal Kressh: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=707012

You don't compare Dooku with Emperor Vitiate at all. Never.

Yeah... Vitiate takes this one rather solidly.

On neutral ground? Based on what?

Lol

Originally posted by carthage
On neutral ground? Based on what?

Superior force power and Dooku's relative lack of physical power.

Dooku has withstood massive blows of force from Anakin whose torn spider droids apart and broken durasteel. This is a greater feat than Vitiate whose never been in a serious lightsaber duel

His force power is of unproven strength off nexus.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Superior force power and Dooku's relative lack of physical power.

He doesn't use his strength to attack, but he's casually held off both Obi-Wan and Anakin in a saber lock with one arm. Force-augmentation.

Originally posted by carthage
Dooku has withstood massive blows of force from Anakin whose torn spider droids apart and broken durasteel.

Reread Anakin and Dooku's final duel. The good count was being completely overwhelmed by Anakin's strength.

Dooku hasn't demonstrated the offensive physical strength to suggest that he's capable of defending against or powering through Vitiate's FLS, or the power blows to suggest that he could mortally wound Vitiate.

Originally posted by carthage
This is a greater feat than Vitiate whose never been in a serious lightsaber duel

Vitiate isn't a duelist, but he can certainly fend Dooku off with the force.

Originally posted by carthage
His force power is of unproven strength off nexus.

You mean aside from the several top tier accolades he has, and the fact that he was able to dominate a Sith Lord with the force off nexus as a teenager before the Nathema ritual?

Does anyone honestly think this is an actual fight?

Vitiate is an almost demigod-like figure. He is practically an avatar of the dark side itself. Dooku is an insect to him. He would utterly crush Dooku without even needing to stand up from his throne, just like with Revan and Malek.

Reread Anakin and Dooku's final duel. The good count was being completely overwhelmed by Anakin's strength.

Dooku hasn't demonstrated the offensive physical strength to suggest that he's capable of defending against or powering through Vitiate's FLS, or the power blows to suggest that he could mortally wound Vitiate.

He's not a strength based fighter, and I didn't make that claim. I said his feat holding them back was a greater strength feat than Vitiate has ever displayed.

Vitiate's FLS, or the power blows to suggest that he could mortally wound Vitiate

Vitiate's FL has no feats off nexus to suggest Vitiate couldn't absorb it with a saber. Also its irrelevant whether or not he has the power to mortally wound Vitiate, as a Makashi fighter he focuses on stabs and quick jabs not power blows.

Vitiate isn't a duelist, but he can certainly fend Dooku off with the force.

Prove it with off nexus feats, then

You mean aside from the several top tier accolades he has, and the fact that he was able to dominate a Sith Lord with the force off nexus as a teenager before the Nathema ritual?

Am I supposed to be impressed that he dominated some random mook in an off screen feat? Where is the proof he can dominate someone of Dooku's caliber off a nexus? His Nathema ritual is irrelevant, he required immense prep to perform that feat.