Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

Originally posted by StealthRanger
>implying lasers are weak

Yes, lets just conveniently ignore that blasters are actually at least megajoule level weapons due to shit like vaporising .5 meter wide holes in durasteel and such shit

"not even up to Jango's skillsets"

What are you talking about fatass?

Also why is taking on a bunch of redshirt level beings supposed to matter?

Someone knows nothing about powerscaling, obviously

*Potentially* powerful. Doesn't mean he can generate more energy then Palpatine at the time

Just means he has the potential to do so if he trained hard enough or whatever

We see them hit bodies and do far less damage than Khan's Boolean gun that also takes down Klingon ships with a blast.

These characters don't have the skills and reflexes to match Jango Fett so why compare them to Khan who outclasses Jango. Jango took Obi on minus any weapons against Obi and his force powers and proved to be equal to the task.

You know nothing about feats and facts. You can't just assume and ignore the characters who have feats. 🙂

His ceiling was far higher but due to being a dumbass and being crushed by Obi never saw the chance. He in the end was a failure just like Palpatine in a one on one battle with Windu.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan wields power greater than what we see lasers capable of doing to bodies so your comment they are durable you just made irrelevant either way.

We see them hit bodies and do far less damage than Khan's Boolean gun that also takes down Klingon ships with a blast.

Welcome to fiction where battles between planet busters only creates small craters (I mean DBZ, btw)

These characters don't have the skills and reflexes to match Jango Fett so why compare them to Khan who outclasses Jango.

Jango Fett is relativistic? lolnope

Jango took Obi on minus any weapons against Obi and his force powers and proved to be equal to the task.

Jango took on Obi-Wan without weapons? Are you retarded?

So blasters, whipcords and missiles aren't weapons according to you now?

And Obi-Wan wasn't using his powers, and Mando's are just that awesome (and SW likely has a comic book esque definition of peak human)

Of course here's me expecting the "herp derp if it didn't happen in 100 fights/situations where it has perceived usefulness out of 100 it doesn't count" cop-out excuse

You know nothing about feats and facts. You can't just assume and ignore the characters who have feats. 🙂

ITT: I don't know how powerscaling works

I'll have you know I have quite the understanding of how evaluating fictional characters works

Well if you want to say only Piccolo, Frieza and Buu can planet bust in DBZ then sure, we'll go by your method

His ceiling was far higher but due to being a dumbass and being crushed by Obi never saw the chance. He in the end was a failure just like Palpatine in a one on one battle with Windu.

What the **** are you talking about? Why is this supposed to be relevant?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Welcome to fiction where battles between planet busters only creates small craters (I mean DBZ, btw)

Jango Fett is relativistic? lolnope

Jango took on Obi-Wan without weapons? Are you retarded?

So blasters, whipcords and missiles aren't weapons according to you now?

And Obi-Wan wasn't using his powers, and Mando's are just that awesome (and SW likely has a comic book esque definition of peak human)

Of course here's me expecting the "herp derp if it didn't happen in 100 fights/situations where it has perceived usefulness out of 100 it doesn't count" cop-out excuse

ITT: I don't know how powerscaling works

I'll have you know I have quite the understanding of how evaluating fictional characters works

Well if you want to say only Piccolo, Frieza and Buu can planet bust in DBZ then sure, we'll go by your method

What the **** are you talking about? Why is this supposed to be relevant?

Jango is superior to those foes.

After he lost his gun and Obi was saber less they did engage in a fight without weapons for a time. It was a stalemate. Both were on their toes despite Obi having access to his force powers. You misunderstood what I meant. Figures.

I know how facts work. Saying a Jedi master is more powerful than another Jedi master in that of Obi Wan minus the feats is stupid. Saying Obi is more powerful than Vader based on being a master is also stupid. Proof and facts matter not your stupid theories.

I explained Vader's arrogance thus preventing him from seeing through to his potential. Palpatine's faith in his apprentice was indeed misplaced. Yoda called it.

What is relevant here is that Palpatine has never blocked anything as powerful as the Boolean gun or something as rapidly successive as the phaser rifle.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And yet somehow the context is lost on you. Windu initially jumps backwards and only gains the upper hand due to a beast damaging Jango's jet pack.

Khan is stronger, has better feats, has superior weaponry, superhuman recovery and is far more ruthless than Jango Fett can dare to dream. The Jango Fett vs. Windu was far from domination and his victory can be shared with the beast who damaged his equipment.

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Did you ever watch the movie? At which point was Jango having the advantage over Windu... Jango can only kill windu via blasting him.. the jetpack failing didn't prevent him from blasting windu... we saw how effect that was.. he got his head chapped off.. You also forget windu snuck up behind Dooku and JANGO and could've killed Jango with utter ease. he just choose to hold the sword to Dooku's neck not Jango. But THAT is how easy he got the upper hand on Jango. Sidious utterly curb stomps Khan and it's no contest.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan wields power greater than what we see lasers capable of doing to bodies so your comment they are durable you just made irrelevant either way.

We see them hit bodies and do far less damage than Khan's Boolean gun that also takes down Klingon ships with a blast.

These characters don't have the skills and reflexes to match Jango Fett so why compare them to Khan who outclasses Jango. Jango took Obi on minus any weapons against Obi and his force powers and proved to be equal to the task.

You know nothing about feats and facts. You can't just assume and ignore the characters who have feats. 🙂

His ceiling was far higher but due to being a dumbass and being crushed by Obi never saw the chance. He in the end was a failure just like Palpatine in a one on one battle with Windu.

You LITERALLY are a moron like we've never seen before. Jango doesn't even have CLOSE to the speed or reflexes of a sith lord like Sidous. He literally killed 3 of the most CELBRATED masters of the era before they could do anything about it. THAT is how fast he is. When he fought Windu... they were blurs to Anakin as he was watching them threw the window.. he couldn't even make them out they were moving so fast. That is moving so fast a JEDI who sees things even quicker than a human couldn't even keep up. It's literally laughable you think Jango is faster than Sidious. Sidious would kill jango before he could even react.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Did you ever watch the movie? At which point was Jango having the advantage over Windu... Jango can only kill windu via blasting him.. the jetpack failing didn't prevent him from blasting windu... we saw how effect that was.. he got his head chapped off.. You also forget windu snuck up behind Dooku and JANGO and could've killed Jango with utter ease. he just choose to hold the sword to Dooku's neck not Jango. But THAT is how easy he got the upper hand on Jango. Sidious utterly curb stomps Khan and it's no contest.

Jumping away from Jango doesn't mean he can kill him with ease. 😂

The beast damaged the jet pack which allowed him to win due to defective equipment Windu wasn't able to destroy through his own actions.

Khan guns him down. Blasts a hole through his geriatric chest.

Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain

Originally posted by Robtard
Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain

"Guyz, don't maek me post teh klingon battel wher Khan destroy a bunch of tehm cuz dey totally teh sam as Palpatanz."

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You LITERALLY are a moron like we've never seen before. Jango doesn't even have CLOSE to the speed or reflexes of a sith lord like Sidous. He literally killed 3 of the most CELBRATED masters of the era before they could do anything about it. THAT is how fast he is. When he fought Windu... they were blurs to Anakin as he was watching them threw the window.. he couldn't even make them out they were moving so fast. That is moving so fast a JEDI who sees things even quicker than a human couldn't even keep up. It's literally laughable you think Jango is faster than Sidious. Sidious would kill jango before he could even react.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan jumped thirty meters and was fine after crash landing on earth. Khan's healing abilities and physiology is superior to humans to the point of resurrecting dead people in the right conditions.

Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain

The Senate fight between Palpatine and Yoda shows how much the Force would wreck Khan. Anyone who disagrees is trolling.

Palpy uses the Force to either disarm Khan by grabbing the rifle out of his hands or make Khan point the rifle away from the intended target or making Khan point the rifle at his own face and then pull the trigger.

Force lightning finishes the job.

Based on knowledge by someone who knows movie feats, logic, and facts.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

They weren't blurs to anyone. We saw every action in the film. We also see Windu disarm Palpatine. One on one he lost after the featless fodder were killed off.

Originally posted by The Renegade
"Guyz, don't maek me post teh klingon battel wher Khan destroy a bunch of tehm cuz dey totally teh sam as Palpatanz."

One target would be easy Peezy for Khan. When Yoda showed up to get into the Jedi temple he needed Obi whereas Khan just solos squads.

Originally posted by Robtard
Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain

🙂

If Palpatine can handle a force push so can Khan.

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Dooku easily holds Anakin in mid-air against his will and propels Obi-Wan more than a huge distance at a nice speed across a room. No way Khan can resist getting rag dolled like that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't the same as Palpatine. It was a much harder situation as he had multiple threats, aircraft, and reconforcements dropping in with ranged weapons to worry about.

One target would be easy Peezy for Khan. When Yoda showed up to get into the Jedi temple he needed Obi whereas Khan just solos squads.

Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain

Originally posted by KingD19
Dooku easily holds Anakin in mid-air against his will and propels Obi-Wan more than a huge distance at a nice speed across a room. No way Khan can resist getting rag dolled like that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Palpatine tosses Khan about easier than he tossed a senate pod and breaks Khan's body/bones harder than Spock did. /screenfeats /cantbedenied /thread /pwneditagain

Khan is also quicker on the draw than Palpatine and I've never seen any force push break bones. Quit ignoring the context of Uhura's 8 phaser blasts.

Yoda also can hurl pods but didn't even break Palpatine's bones.

😂

Love the Star Wars fans making up feats and ignoring the force pushes on film.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
force users happen to be ****ing durable.

👆

Very.