Khan Noonien Singh vs. Palpatine

Started by quanchi11293 pages

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
One thing Quan you don't take into consideration is the fact Sidious can't act in character due to the battle situations. He's not going up agisnst a lightsaber deulist and force weilder so realisticly he won't be fighting in the same way. The only time we have seen Sidious go up agaisnt people who are in possession of guns are the mandalorian guards and he choked them without a thought, so by your own admission Sidious will just choke Khan out due to the evidence. He has no TK barrier so nothing is stopping him from choking him, he can do it without even bi no in the same room or hand gestures, he did it in canon, so there is no doubt this is out of character or non canon or anything.
He's also force choked Dooku so saying he's never met Khan we don't know how he'll react is faulty logic indeed.

Let's just for a moment use the example you cited. So you argue Palpatine will slowly approach Khan without his weapons draw spanning a few seconds. Unlike the mandalorians he won't yell to halt and will kill him in half the time. That was easy. Thank you for being foolish enough to say something so easy for me to counter based off your logic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's also force choked Dooku so saying he's never met Khan we don't know how he'll react is faulty logic indeed.

Let's just for a moment use the example you cited. So you argue Palpatine will slowly approach Khan without his weapons draw spanning a few seconds. Unlike the mandalorians he won't yell to halt and will kill him in half the time. That was easy. Thank you for being foolish enough to say something so easy for me to counter based off your logic.

Terrible analogy. Sidious is the teacher of Dooku a fellow force user and lightsaber deulist so my notion stands.

Yes, let's use my logic. Mandalorians saw his ship and was ready before he even got off the ship and he still won. He will see khan and will like the mandalorian so find him a waste of time and choke them to death. Sidious wins easily.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Terrible analogy. Sidious is the teacher of Dooku a fellow force user and lightsaber deulist so my notion stands.

Yes, let's use my logic. Mandalorians saw his ship and was ready before he even got off the ship and he still won. He will see khan and will like the mandalorian so find him a waste of time and choke them to death. Sidious wins easily.

I cited another example and you just ignore it. He's force choked guys with the force and guys without it. Boom.

He won because they weren't ruthless enough and didn't fire. They had two seconds to gun him down. Khan shoots instantly and kills him in half the time based on the scene you showed as proof.

Game. Set. Match.

So the conclusion is obvious. Sidious stomps due to greater speed, skill all of the above. No arguments have been made to prove Khan wins. So Sidious wins.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So the conclusion is obvious. Sidious stomps due to greater speed, skill all of the above. No arguments have been made to prove Khan wins. So Sidious wins.
Sidious isn't faster than Khan's weaponry. He's been hit by attacks far slower than that. Based off the evidence Khan wins. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sidious isn't faster than Khan's weaponry. He's been hit by attacks far slower than that. Based off the evidence Khan wins. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.

What? Yoda's force push was pretty instant to me and he was toying around with maul and savage and those were while he was up close. What evidence you never provided any. You never said what's going to happen if he just chokes Khan like he did those guards? It's in character and canon.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
What? Yoda's force push was pretty instant to me and he was toying around with maul and savage and those were while he was up close. What evidence you never provided any. You never said what's going to happen if he just chokes Khan like he did those guards? It's in character and canon.
Yoda talked and had to move his hand forward. Maul kicked him. Maul's kicks are far slower than Khan's phasers. Palpatine has his guard down and gave them two seconds to attack. Khan kills him in less than half the time.

Khan is on his knees begging Palpatine to spare his life.

EmperorSidious2, I have something important to tell you.

Spoiler:
You can't ****ing win. Quan is a transdimensional entity as far as these things go. A concept beyond credibility. His mere presence inspires fear and anger, withering even the strongest of poster's connections to the rational. Imagine Khan's personality and EU Sidious's powers in one.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Khan is on his knees begging Palpatine to spare his life.
Palpatine is the one who canonically begged for his life. Facts kinda make you look ignorant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda talked and had to move his hand forward. Maul kicked him. Maul's kicks are far slower than Khan's phasers. Palpatine has his guard down and gave them two seconds to attack. Khan kills him in less than half the time.

And khan has to aim his gun what's your point? You would have to prove Khan can block his TK. If so please do.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
And khan has to aim his gun what's your point? You would have to prove Khan can block his TK. If so please do.
Khan fires the gun in less than two seconds that passed before Palpatine used his tk this your own evidence supports my claims. If you believe he uses this right out of the gate and first you need to prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan fires the gun in less than two seconds that passed before Palpatine used his tk this your own evidence supports my claims. If you believe he uses this right out of the gate and first you need to prove it.

And Yoda raised his hand in less than a second so based on that Yoda's was faster. Well considering Khan isn't a force weilder or lightsaber combatant, he would be most closely related to blaster wielding assailants. The only time we have seen Sidious fight blaster wielding assailatnts were the mandalorian guards and he just choked them, so that's all we really have to go off of.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
And Yoda raised his hand in less than a second so based on that Yoda's was faster. Well considering Khan isn't a force weilder or lightsaber combatant, he would be most closely related to blaster wielding assailants. The only time we have seen Sidious fight blaster wielding assailatnts were the mandalorian guards and he just choked them, so that's all we really have to go off of.
Palpatine gave him over thirty five seconds to raise his hand. That's the point. We see that the mandalorians had no feats and did not attack due to not knowing who he was. They still had him dead to rights. Khan guns him down due to his arrogance which I have cemented.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Palpatine gave him over thirty five seconds to raise his hand. That's the point. We see that the mandalorians had no feats and did not attack due to not knowing who he was. They still had him dead to rights. Khan guns him down due to his arrogance which I have cemented.

So? Saying that like that will happen here? We stay what is close to the character and what is close to his character is choking khan from the start since he is more a blaster wielding assailant and that's how he dealt with them. So khan has no feats to suggest he can block TK so he is in the same boat as the mandalorians.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So? Saying that like that will happen here? We stay what is close to the character and what is close to his character is choking khan from the start since he is more a blaster wielding assailant and that's how he dealt with them. So khan has no feats to suggest he can block TK so he is in the same boat as the mandalorians.
If we go by that scene Khan has two free seconds to shoot him down. Khan fires first based off the scene you referenced. You sunk your own battleship.

Yoda handled Sidious TK and survived, If Khan has his gun which is strapped to him, he can handle a TK beating and get a shot off..

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
EmperorSidious2, I have something important to tell you.

Spoiler:
You can't ****ing win. Quan is a transdimensional entity as far as these things go. A concept beyond credibility. His mere presence inspires fear and anger, withering even the strongest of poster's connections to the rational. Imagine Khan's personality and EU Sidious's powers in one.

LOL

Seriously though ES2, even debating this is falling right into his palms. He's trolled this thread (and the Yoda one for 100 pages).

The only thread worth debating is the Khan vs Ahsoka one. Because that puts Khan back into place. But don't degrade Yoda/Sidious by continuing to let Quanchi troll on these 2 threads ES2.

How can Khan not take a TK beating when two old crippled jedi/sith did.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
LOL

Seriously though ES2, even debating this is falling right into his palms. He's trolled this thread (and the Yoda one for 100 pages).

The only thread worth debating is the Khan vs Ahsoka one. Because that puts Khan back into place. But don't degrade Yoda/Sidious by continuing to let Quanchi troll on these 2 threads ES2.

Everything I have stated I have supported with clips, common sense, and behaviors consistently shown by the characters themselves.

You've thrown in the towel abandoning Star Wars, your self respect, and pride.