Dooku Aotc vs Aryn Leneer

Started by WildBantha884 pages

Originally posted by Lord Stark

Deceived Malgus? His feats are superior.

I asked for a quote you gave me an opinion

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Because their respective feats put them in the same league. This is the part of the debate you argue Temple Raid Malgus is Dooku level. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

Ok.

Decieved Malgus is Dooku level. Come at me bro.

And Leneer is better than Qui-Gon. That dude has like, zero Force feats. And he's not on Leneers level of speed, strength or acrobatics. He's not appearing in multiple places at once or throwing someone 40 meters with one hand or leaping over Malgus' lightsaber. Zallow is above Qui-Gon as well. Blitzing Sith Warriors and tossing aside Adraas is good shit.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
So...do you regularly lose to someone weaker than you in a fight when you are jumping them?

When you're hemmed in and trying not to kill them and the dude is flat out pushing himself to the limits.

Plus the only lost because Savage is such a loser.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Not making that argument. I am saying Anakin's emotional state didn't magically reduce him to pre AOTCs levels. And even as of the early Clone Wars Anakin's TK is superior to Maul's.

No it isn't.

So you really think that RotS Kenobi is more powerful than Darth Maul? Thats so dumb!

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yeah that quote rather plainly states Maul isn't even on his level.

I don't recall stating he was. Maul is solidly below Dooku. But he would solidly give Dooku a good fight.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
I asked for a quote you gave me an opinion

Lol Dooku's feats are superior.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ok.

Decieved Malgus is Dooku level. Come at me bro.

Ha Ha. Based on what? Inb4 you use that ridiculous Jedi Knight feat who has the best TK feat of the entire TOR era.


And Leneer is better than Qui-Gon. That dude has like, zero Force feats. And he's not on Leneers level of speed, strength or acrobatics. He's not appearing in multiple places at once or throwing someone 40 meters with one hand or leaping over Malgus' lightsaber. Zallow is above Qui-Gon as well. Blitzing Sith Warriors and tossing aside Adraas is good shit.

Obviously Leneer is better than Qui-Gon. That's why I said she's TPM Maul level. Zallow isn't above Qui-Gon, he's on the same level as him. Blitzing mooks isn't above Qui-Gon neither is owning faildraas.


When you're hemmed in and trying not to kill them and the dude is flat out pushing himself to the limits.

Right because Kenobi was totally trying to kill Maul and Savage. 🙄


Plus the only lost because Savage is such a loser.

Please Kenobi landed plenty of kicks on blows before Maul before Savage even joined the fray.


No it isn't.

So you really think that RotS Kenobi is more powerful than Darth Maul? Thats so dumb!

ROTS Kenobi is superior to Maul, he's a master of Soresu, an expert at Niman and Ataru, and in the TK area he matches ROTS Anakin who I'm sorry has superior feats to Maul, there's no proof that his TK was reduced to a point that puts him below TCWs. ****ing hell man. Kenobi pushed Maul to his limits in TPM. He mastered Soresu because of Ataru's failures against Maul, became the master of Soresu in a Jedi Order where Soresu is the predominant form. If you think 13 years of mastering a saber technique isn't enough to put you above a Sith Lord who spent the same years crying in a cave you're delusional.


I don't recall stating he was. Maul is solidly below Dooku. But he would solidly give Dooku a good fight.

Dooku outclasses Maul. He would not give Dooku a good fight, the Count would win 9/10.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Right because Kenobi was totally trying to kill Maul and Savage. 🙄

Wut?

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Lol Dooku's feats are superior.
Im still not seeing a quote, but man are you full of opinions. The best thing about opinions are I can have one completely opposite of yours

That's not how we analyze it tho. There isn't gonna be a quote, "Count Dooku is immensely powerful, his prowess with force lightning even exceeds Darth Malgus's." You would compare accolades/feats in this situation.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
That's not how we analyze it tho. There isn't gonna be a quote, "Count Dooku is immensely powerful, his prowess with force lightning even exceeds Darth Malgus's." You would compare accolades/feats in this situation.

Yes, but all Stark is giving him is "LOL Dooku's feats are better," without actually listing said feats.

True.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yes, but all Stark is giving him is "LOL Dooku's feats are better," without actually listing said feats.
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Doesn't need to be a "Quote" per say but show me something that isn't your oppinion

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
That's not how we analyze it tho. There isn't gonna be a quote, "Count Dooku is immensely powerful, his prowess with force lightning even exceeds Darth Malgus's." You would compare accolades/feats in this situation.
lol I know I am asking for a showing of his force lightning that is superior to Malgus's showings... IK how to debate my droogie

Originally posted by WildBantha88
IK how to debate my droogie

watch?v=-SbmDrO7fQo

LOL

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wut?

He's a Jedi he's not trying to kill him. Not that it matters considering not a single PT duel has ended without someone being disarmed before being killed.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
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Doesn't need to be a "Quote" per say but show me something that isn't your oppinion

Then why didn't you say so instead of ask for this ridiculous quote. Also I've stated Dooku's feats so many times...meh.
Pwning 9 Nightbrothers, all of whom can casually own Magnaguards.

Sabers:
-Casually blitzes 2 Nightbrothers before they can react.
-Holds off Late CWs Anakin and Kenobi at once
-Holds off Mace Windu and Kenobi at once

Lightning:
Knocking out Sora Bulq, knocking out Ventress, killing four nightbrothers, killing several Kiffar warriors, lightning is redirected by Yoda "far from easily".

TK:
Moved several obelisks that Savage Opress struggled to do; the same Savage that moved a shuttle casually, casually moves a giant crane, casually collapses a crane larger than a freighter. Blasts Anakin with TK, bypasses his defences. Demolishes Ventress with the tap of a finger.

What does Malgus have on that pre TOR?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Saying this is extremely ironic. Skillz/dmb know what I mean. Wait a little bit, and you will see too.

Originally posted by Nephthys
So, are those nightbrothers actually dead or just unconscious?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I tried to find that out too, because it is important for my upcoming Revan argument, but they don't show it again.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
lightning is redirected by Yoda "far from easily".

watch?v=LAf0QnLFS7Q&feature=kp

I'm not liking where this is going.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not liking where this is going.

Ah, so you are like Stewie Griffin?
watch?v=LHpdgHTINik

Sabers:Casually disposes of jedi knights in the temple. Beat Kao, Ven Zallow, and Knight Satele.

Lightning: Insta kills two padawans before that same lightning lifts a knight off her feat and kills her within seconds.

TK: Cassually chokes out jedi in the temple. Blast of power that levels a crowd and rocks a ship.

I am not following Ant's puzzle at all lol. 😬

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Lol Dooku's feats are superior.

You need to prove this. None of the information that you have provided proves that Dooku matches Malgus.

Book of Sith: Secrets of the Dark Side positions Malgus on a different level then Sidious's apprentices.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Ha Ha. Based on what? Inb4 you use that ridiculous Jedi Knight feat who has the best TK feat of the entire TOR era.

That powerful Jedi have demonstrated greater strength then even Dooku, but even such level of strength was not enough to stop Malgus.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Obviously Leneer is better than Qui-Gon. That's why I said she's TPM Maul level. Zallow isn't above Qui-Gon, he's on the same level as him. Blitzing mooks isn't above Qui-Gon neither is owning faildraas.

Leener is TPM Maul level, seriously? What has Maul done at this point to be on par with Leener supposedly?

Zallow isn't above Qui-Gon, really? And he blitzed mooks?

Official information: http://www.swtor.com/info/media/trailers/deceived-cinematic-trailer

From the aforementioned link:

In advance of the fleet, the strongest Sith Warriors have flown a stolen Republic ship into Coruscant's orbit. Their mission is critical – to destroy the planet’s defense grid mainframe hidden in the heart of the Jedi Temple.

Book of Sith: Secrets of the Dark Side reveals some backstory of these 50 Sith Warriors who participated in the Sacking of Coruscant event. These Warriors had proven themselves in the war and each had slain Jedi before.

In short, the individuals whom Zallow blitzed weren't mooks by any stretch of imagination. Zallow is just that damn good, most likely among the finest of the Order.