Originally posted by quanchi112
I go by feats and comparisons in the star trek universe not your shitty speculation.
Because this debate takes place in the ST Universe? And what feats? The only one you posted was the skull crush, which is HORRIBLY inadequate
Originally posted by quanchi112
Here is proof of Kirk swimming well beyond your speculative bs.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ldxE2DLZ-tA
Except you notice they weren't kicking their legs, and bubbles were coming from their feet? Yeah, that was propulsion assisted, not natural swimming. You are being dishonest.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, jaws has a lot of weight but can be hurt by someone with khan strength. Hell, a wasp can sting into out flesh despite us being so much stronger and bigger than them its silly.
That's because it has a sharp sting that is needle narrow.
Prove that Khan can hurt the shark in any measurable fashion, because the skull crush isn't enough when compared to breaking into ship hulls or tearing peers off their moors
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan is a superior predator in all areas to humanity. Every time the shark has been hunted and killed by humans. Khan slaughters this overrated shark.
Ok then, lets do a body count. Jaws as of the original had a bodycount of 5 humans onscreen, and another 2 off screen. Oh my, and Khan is in the water unarmed and unprotected with this thing? In every jaws movie it took explosives and or firearms to take out the shark. Khan has none of these available.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You're losing this debate very badly.
I do believe you are misrepresenting facts to suit yourself, along with a complete ignorance to basic physics, AND the circumstances of the fight. You also just tried to provide Khan with equipment and feats he does not and has not ever possessed. I do believe that means that I am in fact WINNING the debate.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroKhan's super strength is chicken feed compared to any of the Jaws sharks. His intellect is basically useless when he is foundering amongst the debris of the ORCA. The ONLY advantage he has over an ordinary man here, is that he doesn't need to breathe, IE he can go under and swim underwater for extended periods of time. That, is literally it. He can't outpace the shark, he can't overpower it, and unless he gets INCREDIBLY lucky and finds Hooper's poisoned harpoon dart on the ocean floor, he has no way of even hurting the shark, never mind killing it....
Khan needs to breathe, as augments are still human despite the genetic advantages.
He could likely hold his breath for a VERY long time compared to normal humans though with his superior physiology.
Originally posted by Robtard
Khan needs to breathe, as augments are still human despite the genetic advantages.He could likely hold his breath for a VERY long time compared to normal humans though with his superior physiology.
According to this, the Augments don't require oxygen to survive...
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroBoth get their feats.
Because this debate takes place in the ST Universe? And what feats? The only one you posted was the skull crush, which is HORRIBLY inadequateExcept you notice they weren't kicking their legs, and bubbles were coming from their feet? Yeah, that was propulsion assisted, not natural swimming. You are being dishonest.
That's because it has a sharp sting that is needle narrow.
Prove that Khan can hurt the shark in any measurable fashion, because the skull crush isn't enough when compared to breaking into ship hulls or tearing peers off their moors
Ok then, lets do a body count. Jaws as of the original had a bodycount of 5 humans onscreen, and another 2 off screen. Oh my, and Khan is in the water unarmed and unprotected with this thing? In every jaws movie it took explosives and or firearms to take out the shark. Khan has none of these available.
I do believe you are misrepresenting facts to suit yourself, along with a complete ignorance to basic physics, AND the circumstances of the fight. You also just tried to provide Khan with equipment and feats he does not and has not ever possessed. I do believe that means that I am in fact WINNING the debate.
Prove they had assistive devices. Just destroyed your speculative numbers. 😂
You don't have to be stronger than someone to hurt them just strong enough to hurt them.
Jaws can be easily hunted and didn't take anyone out of skill and attacked kids, teenagers, bums, who were all unsuspecting.
I supported my arguments and you made shit up.
Khan wins.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
YouTube videoAccording to this, the Augments don't require oxygen to survive...
You're aware that the crew he is talking about is still in stasis, right?
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroAccording to this, the Augments don't require oxygen to survive...
Can't watch that ATM. Is that where Khan comments something like: "I'll walk over your lifeless crew"?
That wasn't Khan literally saying "I don't need to breathe". Augments breathe. Khan breaths in Space Seed, Wrath of Khan and Into Darkness and the other Augments breath in Wrath of Khan, Borderland, Cold Station 12 and The Augments.
Khan's powers are listed as:
Super Intelligence, superhuman strength, superhuman durability and resilience, fighting skills
No "doesn't require oxygen".
Originally posted by quanchi112
Both get their feats.
Indeed, and since the feats of the Shark far superceed that of Khan, Jaws should naturally win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove they had assistive devices. Just destroyed your speculative numbers. 😂
You already did so with that clip. You didn't, unless you want to compare assisited propulsion to that off an average human swimmer. Als, they must've pulled those rebreather units out of their asses too eh?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't have to be stronger than someone to hurt them just strong enough to hurt them.
Well then, you have to prove that Khan can exert more force than what the shark slammed into the boat, considering that the creature was doing that with it's head, and incurred no damage from such an action.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Jaws can be easily hunted and didn't take anyone out of skill and attacked kids, teenagers, bums, who were all unsuspecting.
Hmm, Quint comes to mind, as does Ben Gardener, they were experienced fishermen, and in Quint's case, experienced shark hunter as well. He got his ass chomped. So no. And besides, Khan is already in the water as per OP. Hunting skills are irrelevant.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I supported my arguments and you made shit up.
Where? All you did was misrepresent 2 feats. I used actual numbers, measured by the averages, and I even gave Khan a massive boost he wouldn't have, and he still gets torn up, so I don't know what you are bitching about.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan wins.
No, he does not. Jaws does.
Originally posted by Robtard
Can't watch that ATM. Is that where Khan comments something like: "I'll walk over your lifeless crew"?That wasn't Khan literally saying "I don't need to breathe". Augments breathe. Khan breaths in Space Seed, Wrath of Khan and Into Darkness and the other Augments breath in Wrath of Khan, Borderland, Cold Station 12 and The Augments.
Khan's powers are listed as:
Super Intelligence, superhuman strength, superhuman durability and resilience, fighting skillsNo "doesn't require oxygen".
Meh, I was only going by my interpretation of what he said.
Then again, I dunno if he was going to wear a rebreather or not so I guess it was speculative.