Originally posted by Lestov16
So they used the powers of other mutants, not powers they adapted out of nowhere, to kill other mutants. You've effectively proven my point.LOL. The burden of proof is on you to prove your ridiculous No-limits fallacy adaption claim.
Robotic Technology. Not Mutant Organism. Genetically organized could just mean it was built with the complexity of genomes. Not that it is biologically genetic. And they're obviously robots since an EMP took them out. You should re watch the new TDTESS as well as DOFP.
The bullshit no limits fallacy you're spouting is stupidity personified.
WTF are you ranting on about now? Their adaption abilities were both mentioned and shown onscreen.
Genetically organized.😂 In fiction genetics are almost always biological in nature.
You're acting like you're on acid now. Calm down, get your head together, and then we'll continue this discussion in a more serious tone.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
They never adapted to anything other then mutants, hence why they were created and upgraded with her gene.They cannot adapt to robots, or develop EMP.
Didn't we do this here and Ep made the thread and said Gort won?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t596206.html
Anyways, since this is a dupe thread; reported.
Originally posted by Epicurus
How the heck did I prove your point? They adapted in accordance to what was best suited for taking down a particular adversary. Trying to misconstrue my post isn't gaining you any brownie points.WTF are you ranting on about now? Their adaption abilities were both mentioned and shown onscreen.
Genetically organized.😂 In fiction genetics are almost always biological in nature.
You're acting like you're on acid now. Calm down, get your head together, and then we'll continue this discussion in a more serious tone.
Opinions can change, mon ami. Mine certainly has after rewatching the Reeves remake.
Anyways, since this is a dupe thread; reported.
They adapted using MUTANT POWERS THEY COPIED. Not powers they pulled out of their ass. Rewatch the film.
They were designed to adapt to mutants and now you are saying they can adapt to extraterrestrial weaponry. Show me screenfeats or dialogue saying they can adapt to things other than mutants.
Genetically Organized Robotic Technology: robotic technology that is organized in the structure of a genome. Pretty simple to understand. WTF are you even arguing? It's clearly not a carbon based lifeform like Earth's life, so what exactly are you arguing that it is?
Sorry the remake sucked. As Plinkett said, kids are a kiss of death for a mature film. GORT wins handidly though.
Originally posted by Epicurus
It really doesn't. The 60s version of the X-Jet was far more advanced than anything the US military had in the 2008 remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still.
Yeah no. The exploding Xjet was not more powerful than this:
YouTube video
Originally posted by Lestov16
They adapted using MUTANT POWERS THEY COPIED.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Not powers they pulled out of their ass.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Rewatch the film.
Originally posted by Lestov16
They were designed to adapt to mutants and now you are saying they can adapt to extraterrestrial weaponry.
Especially when we take into account the fact that the source of their adaption ability(Mystique's cells), aren't limited to copying mutants alone.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Show me screenfeats or dialogue saying they can adapt to things other than mutants.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Genetically Organized Robotic Technology: robotic technology that is organized in the structure of a genome.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Pretty simple to understand. WTF are you even arguing? It's clearly not a carbon based lifeform like Earth's life, so what exactly are you arguing that it is?
Originally posted by Lestov16
Sorry the remake sucked. As Plinkett said, kids are a kiss of death for a mature film. GORT wins handidly though.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Yeah no. The exploding Xjet was not more powerful than this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMDigLTefsk
Originally posted by Epicurus
It was never specified that their adaption capability was limited to mutants alone. You might as well argue that the regular, run of the mill Sentinel was designed to fight mutants, so it can only battle mutants in a forum fight. Doesn't work like that.Especially when we take into account the fact that the source of their adaption ability(Mystique's cells), aren't limited to copying mutants alone.
I'll indulge your negative-proof-fallacy the moment you go ahead and prove that their adaption ability is limited strictly to mutants.
So that's one XL No Limits Fallacy with a side order of Burden of Proof Shifting.
It was directly stated that with Mystique's DNA, they could adapt to any mutant threat wasn't it? So...that's pretty much been proven. It only works on mutants, considering mutants and humans are the only thing that inhabit the world. And they wouldn't need to adapt to humans since their normal weapons work fine on them.
Also Magneto has never generated an EMP in the X-Men movies to my knowledge. He's strictly magnetism as in manipulating metal. He doesn't have any control over the EM spectrum like comic and cartoon Magneto. That's why he couldn't make forcefields or anything like that.
Originally posted by Lestov16
So that's one XL No Limits Fallacy with a side order of Burden of Proof Shifting.
Originally posted by K-Dog
I haven't see the new X-men movie yet, but it seems that Mystique changes appearance, not powers or what she is made of. So already there is a lot of nonsense going on with these sentinels. And even accepting that, I wouldn't go so far to think they could copy Gort.
Anyways, when Beast analyzed her cells, he observed that they changed at a genetic level.
Originally posted by KingD19
Also Magneto has never generated an EMP in the X-Men movies to my knowledge. He's strictly magnetism as in manipulating metal. He doesn't have any control over the EM spectrum like comic and cartoon Magneto. That's why he couldn't make forcefields or anything like that.
Originally posted by Lestov16
That's not ad hominem. That's exactly WTF you are doing in this thread. I know nothing about you besides that your an atheist. How the hell am I going to make an ad hominem attack?
Anyways, almost every single point of yours, from the Sentinels non-existent mutants-only limitation to GORT being non-carbon based has been disproved via onscreen evidence. You're pretty much done at this point. No point in trying to play a last word game with me, because you can't win it.
Then that's a no limits fallacy and the burden of proof is on you to secure it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I am not committing a negative proof fallacy. I am basing my decision that they were built for the sole purpose of adapting to and killing mutants. There would obviously be no reason for them to be designed to adapt to anything else. you committing a blatant no limits fallacy by stating they have power beyond that, and the burden of proof is on you to show it.
Come back with screenfeats proving they can adapt to things besides mutants, or don't come back at all, fool.
Originally posted by Epicurus
When a mutant claims that she detected an EMP, more powerful than anything she's detected before. More powerful than Magneto himself.Implying that he could, at least in theory replicate a somewhat weaker version of her EMP.
Are you talking about when Callisto who could sense mutants said she sensed someone more powerful than Magneto? She categorized them from one to five, Magneto was a four I think, Phoenix was a five, that's why they went to get her. I don't recall her saying anything about an EMP.