Mystique's DNA Sentinels vs Gort

Started by Epicurus3 pages

Originally posted by Lestov16
Then that's a no limits fallacy and the burden of proof is on you to secure it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I am not committing a negative proof fallacy. I am basing my decision that they were built for the sole purpose of adapting to and killing mutants. There would obviously be no reason for them to be designed to adapt to anything else. you committing a blatant no limits fallacy by stating they have power beyond that, and the burden of proof is on you to show it.

Come back with screenfeats proving they can adapt to things besides mutants, or don't come back at all, fool.


You don't the meaning of a no-limits-fallacy then. Or how the burden to prove something works. Sorry, but spouting fancy debate-related terms you pick up from wikipedia or hear thrown around casually doesn't make you an actual debater.

You're basing your opinion on nothing then. The source of their power, Mystique's genes, wasn't limited to mutants. There is absolutely no precedent to think then that their abilities somehow magically developed said weakness.

Lol, mutants are the only threat which the X-verse humans face. Claiming that the Sentinels abilities are limited based on such a colossal lack of information to back up that stance is saying that nuclear weapons can only harm human beings, because they were designed to kill human beings. Stupid.

Heck, I'll reiterate another point I made; are ordinary, run of the mill Sentinels useless against non-mutants iyo?

Lol, every single goddamned screenfeat supports my point and discounts yours. From carbon-based GORTs to adapt-to-mutant-only Sentinels, you've either outright lied, misrepresented or just made shit up to suit your dumb argument.

Originally posted by KingD19
Are you talking about when Callisto who could sense mutants said she sensed someone more powerful than Magneto? She categorized them from one to five, Magneto was a four I think, Phoenix was a five, that's why they went to get her. I don't recall her saying anything about an EMP.

Rewatch the scene. She clearly mentions the Phoenix via her detection of a mutant-caused electromagnetic pulse

Direct quote from IMDB since finding that exact scene is hell.

Callisto: I just sensed a mutant, off the charts. Whoever it is, they're more powerful than even you are...

Magneto: Where is she?

And to point out, Callisto can't even sense EMP's. She can only sense mutants and their power levels/what their powers are.

That wasn't a direct quote, apparently somebody skimmed over the scene. I'm gonna post the actual scene though.

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Magneto meets Callisto and the Morlocks. She displays super speed and the ability to sense mutants, power levels(Class 1-5) and what it is specifically they can do. According to her, Magneto and Pyro are Class 4(they're the only ones above Class 3), and Magneto can "control metal", and all we've ever seen him do is control metal. You can speculate and allude all you want, but he's never displayed anything beyond that, so you can't claim he can EMP until you can prove it.

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Here she tells him she sensed an electromagnetic force.(not an electromagnetic pulse, an electromagnetic force. There is a large difference. ) A Class 5 more powerful than anything she ever felt. More powerful than even Magneto. She was referring to his power level as a Class 4 because Jean was a Class 5, not that he could create EMP's. If he could create EMP's, why didn't he against the Sentinels?

What does something that happened in X-Men 3 have to do with this fight. Sentinels never created a EMP. Nor did Phoenix or Magneto or anyone else.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
What does something that happened in X-Men 3 have to do with this fight. Sentinels never created a EMP. Nor did Phoenix or Magneto or anyone else.

Epicurus claimed that because Callisto "implied" Magneto could generate an EMP(a claim that was wrong as I proved), that he could actually make one and the Sentinel's copied his powers(which they were never shown doing) and ergo, they could just spam EMP's to defeat GORT.

Originally posted by KingD19
Epicurus claimed that because Callisto "implied" Magneto could generate an EMP(a claim that was wrong as I proved), that he could actually make one and the Sentinel's copied his powers(which they were never shown doing) and ergo, they could just spam EMP's to defeat GORT.

Lol, yea I know it never happened. I'm wondering why he even brought it up considering none of it actually happened and these fights are based off screen feats.

Anyways

GORT hacks the sentinels easier then Magento did. Turns them all against each other

He destroys them with his unibeam.

He ahhnialtes them with the nanites.

Sentinels have zero chance.

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Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Lol, yea I know it never happened. I'm wondering why he even brought it up considering none of it actually happened and these fights are based off screen feats.
Epidural lies all the time. He also claimed the matrix world wasn't a world but instead just cities. He's harmless and just makes things up.

Where was it stated a EMP could kill GORT in the first place😂😂😂

GORT to me was like the Celestial of Marvel comics that is sent to destroy the Earth once it is judged. The OP has lessened GORT's capabilities here, so there isn't much to be said about it's effectiveness. However if we allowed GORT to go ape shit, the Sentinel's would be consumed as quickly as a truck would be.

Where do the OP lessen his capabilities?

Gort's not allowed his nanomite cloud, where he just eats away at everything.

As stated before, even without the nanite cloud, GORT still has a massive size, durability, and (possibly) energy output advantage.

Originally posted by KingD19
Gort's not allowed his nanomite cloud, where he just eats away at everything.

Ill adjust my ending statement

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Anyways

GORT hacks the sentinels easier then Magento did. Turns them all against each other.

He destroys them with his unibeam.

Sentinels have zero chance.

Alien Tech>Earth Tech