Originally posted by yungz22
List what kaguya has done
Whatever the Gedo Mazo, Juubi and its jinchuuriki has done since since that all her power.
Originally posted by BloodRain
More powerful than beings whose chakra is continental(?).
Actually incomplete juubi's chakra is stated to be on little planetary scale.
http://i.imgur.com/tP5tHer.jpg
This was later backed up by Juubi jin Madara using wood release on a planetary scale.
http://i.imgur.com/nKMRW2q.jpg?1
Her complete self is leagues above that.
http://i.imgur.com/Bmbb0FS.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/rTnbNTc.jpg?1
Originally posted by BloodRain
When I say continental I mean completely destruction, not just affecting it.
Her destructive capacity is most likely planet level. Her son made the moon as a dying old man with chibaku tensei and he admitted his mother was more powerful than anyone. That include in his youth as the juubi's jin.
Originally posted by ZamielBusting a planet the size of the Earth would take somewhere around a thousand times more energy than busting a moon, which Hagoromo didn't actually do.
Her destructive capacity is most likely planet level. Her son made the moon as a dying old man with chibaku tensei and he admitted his mother was more powerful than anyone. That include in his youth as the juubi's jin.
Kaguya is more powerful than her son, but we don't yet know how powerful. She may have abilities that have Planetary range (though really, the Tree is just shown affecting everything on the continent that the ninja countries are shown on), but that doesn't mean she could completely destroy the planet.
And I think you're looking at that sensing sphere thing incorrectly. It just meant that the Juubi had as much chakra as everyone in the Shinobi Alliance.
Also, current Kaguya should be weaker than Kaguya at her peak in the past.
Originally posted by yungz22
List what kaguya has done
Ignoring power-scaling, she can: teleport people (has been likened to summoning a dimension); throw hair senbon that pierce through Susanoo; use chakra fists that are stronger than Naruto's; bust through Perfect Susanoo; and teleport
Originally posted by yungz22
List what kaguya has done
Done a genjutsu that put everyone on the continent (possibly the world) into a deep sleep except for those protected by Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o.
She can teleport, and even teleport locations to her. She brought a lava lake to her battlefield.
Her attacks can beat Perfect Susano'o, which can both slice apart mountains and tank attack that can destroy mountains.
She was also able to temporarily paralyze Naruto and Sasuke.
Earlier, Madara used gravity powers to rip up multiple kilometer+ spheres from the earth across a country and throw them ala meteors, and his power is a fraction of hers, and he was using the Rinnegan, which originated from her.
Juubi likes to spam gigaton+ level explosions at beyond-the-horizon ranges.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Busting a planet the size of the Earth would take somewhere around a thousand times more energy than busting a moon, which Hagoromo didn't actually do.
A moon level CT would have taken chunk out of Earth to create the moon wouldn't it?
[b]And I think you're looking at that sensing sphere thing incorrectly. It just meant that the Juubi had as much chakra as everyone in the Shinobi Alliance. [b]
I was going by the statement that it's chakra was like a small star in the scan.
You're all dumb. You're saying Kaguya is planet level and shit when her biggest feat is taking on two moon level characters. And Zamiel, that first scan you showed wasn't planet level. They were only observing the chakra of the battlefields that ninja were fighting on. That scan was to show the Jyuubi had almost as much chakra as the whole ninja alliance, around half as much.
And the sage's moon creation feat means nothing. He simply used the body of the Jyuubi as the center of a chibaku tensei, which required him to use almost no chakra. In fact, that was solely the Jyuubi's chakra in the first place. Kaguya is not much stronger than the Jyuubi at all. That's still around moon level. Not planet.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You're all dumb. You're saying Kaguya is planet level and shit when her biggest feat is taking on two moon level characters. And Zamiel, that first scan you showed wasn't planet level. They were only observing the chakra of the battlefields that ninja were fighting on. That scan was to show the Jyuubi had almost as much chakra as the whole ninja alliance, around half as much.And the sage's moon creation feat means nothing. He simply used the body of the Jyuubi as the center of a chibaku tensei, which required him to use almost no chakra. In fact, that was solely the Jyuubi's chakra in the first place. Kaguya is not much stronger than the Jyuubi at all. That's still around moon level. Not planet.
The Juubi's chakra was divided into the tailed beast, dude.
Originally posted by Zamiel
The Juubi's chakra was divided into the tailed beast, dude.
With the sole exclusions of the chakra that resided in the core of the moon that sealed Kaguya, and what the jinchuriki Hagaromo used to make the moon. Why do you think he was able to make a moon from the Jyuubi if he had already made the Biju?
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
With the sole exclusions of the chakra that resided in the core of the moon that sealed Kaguya, and what the jinchuriki Hagaromo used to make the moon. Why do you think he was able to make a moon from the Jyuubi if he had already made the Biju?
Hagaromo had already made the Tailed Beast before creating the moon. So he only had the Gedo Mazo in him when creating the moon. As a matter of fact it was even stated by Kurama. I highly doubt the Gedo Mazo's chakra is that powerful.
Originally posted by Zamiel
Hagaromo had already made the Tailed Beast before creating the moon. So he only had the Gedo Mazo in him when creating the moon. As a matter of fact it was even stated by Kurama. I highly doubt the Gedo Mazo's chakra is that powerful.
How powerful? Powerful enough to take on and easily beat the entire shinobi allied force with the exclusion of a few super high tiers? Not to mention that there is no time frame showing when the biju were created, other than just before Hagaromo died.
Either way, he still didn't show a feat above Nagato, simply because of the fact that he had a catalyst to use Chibaku Tensei. Nagato made a small moon simply with his chakra.
Kaguya can for all intents and purposes rewrite the battleground's conditions to whatever she sees fit at any time. Be it a cavern of boiling lava, a desert plain, or a mountainous blizzard, Kaguya can decide and change the factors based on the situation at any time.
She can also create rifts in space that she can use to either travel anywhere on a planetary scale, travel between dimensions she's created, and close distances completely with no delay time whatsoever.
On top of this, she can see the entire networking of her opponent's energy pathway system, and can disrupt the flow of energy by piercing the pressure points with her ultra-precise Needle Jizou that is strong enough to cut through the Susano'o. Not only this, but she also has a 360 degree range of vision, and thus is invulnerable to attacks from her blind spot.
The pressure released from a single punch of her extended-range chakra arms colliding with Naruto's caused a portion of the base of a massive volcano to burst, and she can fire off these chakra arms at rates that dwarf sonic speed. Not only this, but a single smash from one of her chakra arms was enough to completely shred the Perfect Susano'o, which is easily well above mountain busting level in both attack and defense.
Her hair in itself appears almost completely indestructible, and she can control it in it's entirety at will. It can be used to bind opponents with strength ridiculous enough to casually captivate Naruto, who's strength is approaching mountain-busting level apparently. Not only this, but her hair rapidly drains the strength of those it binds at a dangerous rate.
Not only this, but Kaguya's chakra was said by Naruto to far surpass that of the Juubi's, which is supposedly on small planetary level itself according to the HQ's interpretation. This is supported by it's ability to casually fire off bombs that completely obliterate anything within what appears to be at least a 20-30 kilometer radius.
On top of this, she was able to trap the entirety of the world under her spell via the Infinite Tsukuyomi, and then casually create a planetary-scale tree to bind them.
Similarly to Hagoromo, she had the ability to create life, as the Juubi was apparently nothing but a creation of hers that she breathed life and will into. Considering that her creation was powerful enough that it had to be encased in what became the moon to stop it, it's an impressive showing for her as well.
Kaguya Ootsutsuki is incredibly powerful, even in the DC universe she should be above the low and possibly mid tier characters.
@Gogeta: Not sure a town sized rock counts as a small moon.
Though I do believe the moon being made was with the Juubis power, as its highly unlikely that he merged with Juubi, created the tailed beasts, bonded with them (by Kurama's words and flashback) then finally decided to send the Juubi's corpse that he's just been keeping in storage into space to form the moon.
Originally posted by Zamiel
A moon level CT would have taken chunk out of Earth to create the moon wouldn't it?I was going by the statement that it's chakra was like a small star in the scan.
Yeah, you're right. So you think Kaguya could create/destroy a planet with CT?
So because the second sphere looks like a star, the Juubi must have as much chakra as a star or a planet? Don't be ridiculous.
That sensing ball is tied to the sensing sphere that covers the entire battlefield (which itself is rather large). Does this particular sphere look like it is tied to a planetary barrier to you?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Kaguya Ootsutsuki is incredibly powerful, even in the DC universe she should be above the low and possibly mid tier characters.
Easily at least Low Herald.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Kaguya can for all intents and purposes rewrite the battleground's conditions to whatever she sees fit at any time. Be it a cavern of boiling lava, a desert plain, or a mountainous blizzard, Kaguya can decide and change the factors based on the situation at any time.She can also create rifts in space that she can use to either travel anywhere on a planetary scale, travel between dimensions she's created, and close distances completely with no delay time whatsoever.
On top of this, she can see the entire networking of her opponent's energy pathway system, and can disrupt the flow of energy by piercing the pressure points with her ultra-precise Needle Jizou that is strong enough to cut through the Susano'o. Not only this, but she also has a 360 degree range of vision, and thus is invulnerable to attacks from her blind spot.
The pressure released from a single punch of her extended-range chakra arms colliding with Naruto's caused a portion of the base of a massive volcano to burst, and she can fire off these chakra arms at rates that dwarf sonic speed. Not only this, but a single smash from one of her chakra arms was enough to completely shred the Perfect Susano'o, which is easily well above mountain busting level in both attack and defense.
Her hair in itself appears almost completely indestructible, and she can control it in it's entirety at will. It can be used to bind opponents with strength ridiculous enough to casually captivate Naruto, who's strength is approaching mountain-busting level apparently. Not only this, but her hair rapidly drains the strength of those it binds at a dangerous rate.
Not only this, but Kaguya's chakra was said by Naruto to far surpass that of the Juubi's, which is supposedly on small planetary level itself according to the HQ's interpretation. This is supported by it's ability to casually fire off bombs that completely obliterate anything within what appears to be at least a 20-30 kilometer radius.
On top of this, she was able to trap the entirety of the world under her spell via the Infinite Tsukuyomi, and then casually create a planetary-scale tree to bind them.
Similarly to Hagoromo, she had the ability to create life, as the Juubi was apparently nothing but a creation of hers that she breathed life and will into. Considering that her creation was powerful enough that it had to be encased in what became the moon to stop it, it's an impressive showing for her as well.
Kaguya Ootsutsuki is incredibly powerful, even in the DC universe she should be above the low and possibly mid tier characters.
Basically what I gathered was that, to you, "small planetary" level, is 20-30 kilometers. You are silly, you still have no planetary feat whatsoever for them, Magneto shits on Kaguya.
Really what she has going for is raw variety of abilities.
Kaguya should have the Juubi-Jinchuuriki 'orbs of erase stuff, no regen'.
She can drain power.
She can mind control people with a look (Rinnegan-sharingan).
Rip out souls (rinnegan powers).
Re-write terrain (Magneto? Oops, now in a place with no metal!) and teleport.
Temporarily paralyze foes of even Naruto and Sasuke's level (meaning, someone extremely powerful but using active powers? Likely to find themselves stunned and immobile, set up for an easy kill.
