Originally posted by AmbientOnly in a bio. He was supposed to be killed in Surfer 109 and then Thanos said that by being dead his PC was useless. That directly contradicts the bio which says that Seekers captured him alive. I mean why would they kill him when all they wanted was to drain his PC?
We'll the thing is the bio was supported/ farther clarified on the recreation process of Morg, it was explained that the spark of life is sustained by the WOL which was fanned to create his biology, which means that he was recreated with the WOL inside him since it was already integrated in the spark of his life.
I mean I'm with you if this wasn't the case but we got two solid evidence that collaborate each other. You just can't ignore that!Two? I can only see a single bio contradicting on panel events.
We'll then maybe Surfer needs to be bump up a tier then 😉Yeah, mid herald tier is good for surfer.
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Further thinking about it Firelord's Staff is alway lit both ends so I guess its ala Surfer's board, the thing is I don't think that surfer can use say Firelord's staff and vice versa but the Axe could be use by diff.What? How does lit by both ends means anything?
Herald users. So I'm still unsure of that but really this makes no diff. In that fight.It totally does.
Terrax has more than energy and strength to bring to the table, he is also a Terra user. Mags shield is not be all shield, it can be broken and when it's off, his out.I would like to see where it was broken down though.
Does Mags even have enough omph in his firepower to put a herald level down?He has knocked Hulk out, so yeah he does.
Has he brought down someone with this type of durability down and out?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Only in a bio. He was supposed to be killed in Surfer 109 and then Thanos said that by being dead his PC was useless. That directly contradicts the bio which says that Seekers captured him alive. I mean why would they kill him when all they wanted was to drain his PC? Two? I can only see a single bio contradicting on panel events.Yeah, mid herald tier is good for surfer.
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What? How does lit by both ends means anything? It totally does.
I would like to see where it was broken down though. He has knocked Hulk out, so yeah he does.
Base on his lowest showings that is pretty much where its at. 😉
Lit as in on fire = a clear indication of energy present within, as oppose to nothing, but really this is irrelevant to the fight. Mag's don't have the ability to control the PC within and is as much as a hunk of metal use for bludgeoning or piercing and is dependent on the velocity for damage. I think his bitter off BFR-ing the weapon (Axe) rather than make use of it, cause as soon as it is within his opponent (Terrax) vicinity, its back in hand, doubt that there'd be another chance to control it again.
Mags shield has been affected by force before; Cyclops, Storm, Thor to name a few - totally within Terrax to copy. When did he put Hulk before?
Originally posted by AmbientIt was just a spark of life. The sae writer, Ron Marz had Morg say that he only possesses power cosmic after that. The bio is inconsistent with all the on panel contents regarding Morg.
I don't think we are on the same page here thought i know what you're referencing to but this is not the proof being presented. If I'm not mistaken the evidence scan is from SS #76 - 77 (actual comics) the resurrection of Morg. In there it stated that his resurrection was constituted from the Spark of life sustained by WOL which was then correlated by the Annihilation bio.
So 1 on panel proof and the 2 comes from the bio. Sorry i cant really post the scan on Iphone, but i did provide you with a link to where the scan is.I know better than believing bios.
Base on his lowest showings that is pretty much where its at. 😉Based on his lowest showing, he would be Batman's whipping boy.
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Lit as in on fire = a clear indication of energy present within, as oppose to nothing, but really this is irrelevant to the fight. Mag's don't have the ability to control the PC within and is as much as a hunk of metal use for bludgeoning or piercing and is dependent on the velocity for damage.I don't think so. People have manipulated PC with energy manipulation before and Magnus is one of the best energy manipulators out there.
I think his bitter off BFR-ing the weapon (Axe) rather than make use of it, cause as soon as it is within his opponent (Terrax) vicinity, its back in hand, doubt that there'd be another chance to control it again.Not really.
Mags shield has been affected by force before; Cyclops, Storm, Thor to name a few - totally within Terrax to copy.Affected, not broken.
When did he put Hulk before?Defenders 16 IIRC. He knocked out Hulk with a sucker shot.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was just a spark of life. The sae writer, Ron Marz had Morg say that he only possesses power cosmic after that. The bio is inconsistent with all the on panel contents regarding Morg. I know better than believing bios.Based on his lowest showing, he would be Batman's whipping boy.
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I don't think so. People have manipulated PC with energy manipulation before and Magnus is one of the best energy manipulators out there. Not really.
Affected, not broken. Defenders 16 IIRC. He knocked out Hulk with a sucker shot.
I really don't see any inconsistency heck it was even supported in tyrant story arc. . Why else would Tyrant and Thanos be of interest to Morg's energy?
Again it was just not the bio which was presented as evidence to you, there is also a clearly specified on panel proof that supported the bio which you choose to dismissed. Are you purposely trolling? Is that it?
Huh? Name a few who manipulated PC before @ first interaction - tech?
Affected - he felt pain then loss of concentration and poof shield down, Cyclops concentrated blast did this another incident was against Thor which he said that his shield couldn't take a few more blows. Mags had never KO'ed the Hulk with pure firepower.
Originally posted by AmbientDismissing bios which contradict on panel showings.
I see where back to dismissing written context again Abhi?
It's quite clear and specified, the spark of life sustained by WOL was fanned for Morg resurrection.Yet, he clearly stated that his power which was PC was equal to Surfer. No WOL present.
Where does it state in the scan that it was just the spark of life used for the recreation? Let me put it this way without WOL there is no Spark of life.And it was just a spark of life. Galactus gave him PC, not PC with WOL.
I really don't see any inconsistency heck it was even supported in tyrant story arc. . Why else would Tyrant and Thanos be of interest to Morg's energy?Who knows. It wasn't for WOL though, it was never even implied.
Again it was just not the bio which was presented as evidence to you, there is also a clearly specified on panel proof that supported the bio which you choose to dismissed. Are you purposely trolling? Is that it?And then Morg clearly stated that his power which was derived from PC was equal to Surfer. Maybe the last trace of WOL disappeared giving him a spark of life. He never had it after Herald Ordeal.
Huh? Name a few who manipulated PC before @ first interaction - tech?Arm'cheddon.
Affected - he felt pain then loss of concentration and poof shield down, Cyclops concentrated blast did this another incident was against Thor which he said that his shield couldn't take a few more blows.The incident with Cyclops has been retconned and that was a weaker Magneto against Thor.
Mags had never KO'ed the Hulk with pure firepower.Really? Post the scans.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Dismissing bios which contradict on panel showings.Yet, he clearly stated that his power which was PC was equal to Surfer. No WOL present.
And it was just a spark of life. Galactus gave him PC, not PC with WOL.
LLLIIIIEEESSSS! lol He didn't say he was = Surfer, in fact he say's, "I have your strength, your power. I am all you are and MORE (WOL). Did you see how he manhandled Firelord and Airwalker? He didn't even flinch in they're combined blast, then grab's Firelord staff in the middle of all this. That certainly is not = Surfer
Let me quote it for you, " I foresaw that you're augmented power (WOL) would sustain a spark of life that I needed only fan." It does not get any clearer than that, he fanned WOL that was sustaining a spark of life to resurrect Morg. Without WOL there is no spark of life, they come hand in hand.
Again there is absolutely no contradiction in the bio, the info within has been supported by on panel proof. Your are either misinformed or feeding lies to support your claim, quit being stubborn and admit it 😉 .
Who knows. It wasn't for WOL though, it was never even implied.
If it wasn't for WOL, what else could it be? We know for a fact that Thanos is not interested in PC and prefer mystical source of energy. So what is in Morgs energy Sphere other than PC that he is so interested about? Logic suggest the answer to that is within Morg history which bring us to his augmented power.
Arm'cheddon.
he incident with Cyclops has been retconned and that was a weaker Magneto against Thor.
Really? Post the scans.
Originally posted by AmbientYet, it was clearly stated in his bio that he died in that blast.
It clearly state in the bio that he did not die in the UN aftershock - the WOL healed him then he was captured, experimented and died. This was the reason Annihilus allied himself with Thanos because he hit a wall with his PC research. All of this correlate to Annihilation SS #3.
There is absolutely no contradiction in the bio, nice try thought.Yeah, there is. He appeared dead in actual comic.
LLLIIIIEEESSSS! lol He didn't say he was = Surfer, in fact he say's, "I have your strength, your power. I am all you are and [B]MORE (WOL).He's talking about his brutality. He specifically says that he has Surfer's power.
Did you see how he manhandled Firelord and Airwalker? He didn't even flinch in they're combined blast, then grab's Firelord staff in the middle of all this. That certainly is not = SurferYeah, under Marz they jobbed hardcore. Terrax was beating their asses too. Also I saw surfer actually beating Morg.
Let me quote it for you, " I foresaw that you're augmented power (WOL) would sustain a spark of life that I needed only fan." It does not get any clearer than that, he fanned WOL that was sustaining a spark of life to resurrect Morg. Without WOL there is no spark of life, they come hand in hand.He fanned the spark of life and gave him his PC back. Galactus doesn't gives WOL, since he doesn't has it.
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Again there is absolutely no contradiction in the bio, the info within has been supported by on panel proof.The bio contradicts the actual comic where Morg's corpse was taken by seekers. And that's why Annihilus couldn't extract PC from it.
Your are either misinformed or feeding lies to support your claim, quit being stubborn and admit it 😉 .You always this angry dude?
Why i am not surprise, double standard. All you have as evidence so far is dismissal, unstated view of events.Yeah, why don't you post the scans from Annihilation: Silver Surfer 3 and let us all see it?
If it wasn't for WOL, what else could it be? We know for a fact that Thanos is not interested in PC and prefer mystical source of energy. So what is in Morgs energy Sphere other than PC that he is so interested about? Logic suggest the answer to that is within Morg history which bring us to his augmented power.WAnd why would Annihilus only want it for PC? Questions, questions..
Right? Why didn't i think of that? I suppose anyone who can punch can knock out Supes, Right? Cause by your logic Arm'cheddon who has cosmic power with the ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy is able to control PC therefore Magneto should by default be able to control PC because he is a EM energy manipulator. Walk right into that one.You asked for someone who manipulated PC, I gave you one example. Don't act butthurt now.
It makes no diff. i showed you that his shield is not without limits. IE. His human, fatigue comes into play. His opponent is a mid herald tier capable of dishing out planet destroying attacks, to think that an enemy at this level couldn't faze a few blows is applying no limit fallacy to the shield specially if in itself have not taken direct assault at that magnitude.Heh, long talk no stuff. The fact is, Terrax doesn't has the power to breach his shields.
Shouldn't you be the one to post the scan of Mags blasting Hulk to unconsciousness? doh [/B]I don't have the comic.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Yet, it was clearly stated in his bio that he died in that blast. Yeah, there is. He appeared dead in actual comic.
He's talking about his brutality. He specifically says that he has Surfer's power.
Yeah, under Marz they jobbed hardcore. Terrax was beating their asses too. Also I saw surfer actually beating Morg.
He fanned the spark of life and gave him his PC back. Galactuans doesn't gives WOL, since he doesn't has it.
The bio contradicts the actual comic where Morg's corpse was taken by seekers. And that's why Annihilus couldn't extract PC from it.
Annihilus couldn't extract PC from Morg's body because the body needs to die before PC can be extracted but once the body dies PC dissipates. The only way they know of this is by experimentation on Morgs body when alive and they had no other herald on captivity at this time. Totally support and correlate what is written in the bio.
Yeah, why don't you post the scans from Annihilation: Silver Surfer 3 and let us all see it?
You asked for someone who manipulated PC, I gave you one example. Don't act butthurt now
LLIIESS! Clearly we know whose actually butthurt and it ain't me brah.
Heh, long talk no stuff. The fact is, Terrax doesn't has the power to breach his shields.
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1331302
http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-1331303
Unfortunately for Mags, i don't think his shield can take a blow of that magnitude.
I don't have the comic.