Sun God vs current Hulk

Started by DarkSaint8516 pages
Originally posted by Stoic
Do you really think that the artist and writer took any of that into consideration while writing the book?

Yes. Short answer. It's the colourist, Frank Martin's, job. And only job, really.

Originally posted by carver9
You're using Classic Banner as evidence of him turning Hulk? Banner has been able to go Hulk for the longest without ripping down building or people egging him on. I'm telling you. Before facing Sun God, Hulk was calculating riddles and speaking as calm as day.

Yes, I am saying he was weakened, because he was. He used an antidote that was aimed directly at his state of mind...aka, RAGE. He was hindered.

Im not using classic banner. Im aware of character progression. I just think you're reaching and low balling. Nothing was indicative of him being grey..noone quotes Shakespeare in the middle of a fight. Seriously this is kinda beneath u

Originally posted by carver9
I'm about to draw this for you because you do not get it. One sec.

Answer the Jovian question first, btw. A clear comparator - green, who now looks green-grey.

Originally posted by carver9
You're using Classic Banner as evidence of him turning Hulk? Banner has been able to go Hulk for the longest without ripping down building or people egging him on. I'm telling you. Before facing Sun God, Hulk was calculating riddles and speaking as calm as day.

Yes, I am saying he was weakened, because he was. He used an antidote that was aimed directly at his state of mind...aka, RAGE. He was hindered.

Do you have the scan showing him taking this antidote, and the
context surrounding it?

Under carvers logic it seems far more likely professional artists that are hired for colouring would not account for proper lighting and "wing it" 👆

Originally posted by carver9
And everyone in comics abide by this? Think about it.

Now a days with computer coloring MOST do.

Sometimes you don't use the lightning effects IF the final product does not look what you wanted to.

But judging by the coloring of the book this guy took lighting into consideration.

You are the one who should THINK about it.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Under carvers logic it seems far more likely professional artists that are hired for colouring would not account for proper lightening and "wing it" 👆

Moreover, this 'professional' would forget what colours everyone else is supposed to be wearing, and just grab the nearest crayon and hope nobody notices.

Except for Hulk. He'll get that right.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Under carvers logic it seems far more likely professional artists that are hired for colouring would not account for proper lightening and "wing it" 👆

Coloring aside, there was context that seems to be left out that Carver stated to have been written. If Banner did take an antidote to control his rage level, it would have a strong effect on the Hulk's level of power. Wouldn't it?

DS is currently answering that

My comment was in regards to the colouring portion

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Answer the Jovian question first, btw. A clear comparator - green, who now looks green-grey.

Here...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-08-27-12-35-12-1_zpsjqubhpox.jpg.html

Look at the terrible diagram. The sun is beaming in his face. Per your admission, of the sun is shining in a certain spot, Hulk appearance would be Grey. What I'm telling you is that you are clearly wrong on this part with the artist interpretation. Look at the left side of Hulk face. It's Grey of course but look at his nose. It's still GREEN...even with the sun beaming on it. Look at his eyes. It's GREEN, even with the sun shining on it. You can throw out the color schemes all you want but the coloring counteracts whatever you're saying.

Originally posted by Stoic
Do you have the scan showing him taking this antidote, and the
context surrounding it?

Yeah, I have it. Give me a sec to find it in my Photobucket.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im not using classic banner. Im aware of character progression. I just think you're reaching and low balling. Nothing was indicative of him being grey..noone quotes Shakespeare in the middle of a fight. Seriously this is kinda beneath u

Something was indicated of him being weakened. He took a freaking serum BEFORE facing Sun God.

Originally posted by carver9
Here...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-08-27-12-35-12-1_zpsjqubhpox.jpg.html

Look at the terrible diagram. The sun is beaming in his face. Per your admission, of the sun is shining in a certain spot, Hulk appearance would be Grey. What I'm telling you is that you are clearly wrong on this part with the artist interpretation. Look at the left side of Hulk face. It's Grey of course but look at his nose. It's still GREEN...even with the sun beaming on it. Look at his eyes. It's GREEN, even with the sun shining on it. You can throw out the color schemes all you want but the coloring counteracts whatever you're saying.

So the sun was hitting Jovian from a different angle than it did with the Hulk, thus they are both grey. Only the Hulk isn't being hit fully by the sunlight? This is what you're saying here correct?

Originally posted by carver9
Here...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-08-27-12-35-12-1_zpsjqubhpox.jpg.html

Look at the terrible diagram. The sun is beaming in his face. Per your admission, of the sun is shining in a certain spot, Hulk appearance would be Grey. What I'm telling you is that you are clearly wrong on this part with the artist interpretation. Look at the left side of Hulk face. It's Grey of course but look at his nose. It's still GREEN...even with the sun beaming on it. Look at his eyes. It's GREEN, even with the sun shining on it. You can throw out the color schemes all you want but the coloring counteracts whatever you're saying.

Damn. You got me.

Lol, psyche!

Firstly, GREY-GREEN. Please look at the table again. Stop just focussing on the word you want.

Of course, the eyes....damn. How can I explain that?

Unless two things occur. One. They are light green. Which under amber light, becomes lime-coloured. Which is green.

Two.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/4035060-8071605867-HulkG.jpg

Note his eyes. When Hulk gets super pissed, his eyes emit green light of their own. When he goes WBH, they start pouring out. This has always been the case.

I can't believe I have to teach you about Hulk.

Pick one. Either his eyes are emitting green light of their own (as supported by canon) or they are light green (also supported) which looks lime green under amber light.

Personally, I will go with them emitting light/gamma rads/whatever you want to call it.

I do agree though. It's a terrible diagram.

Carvers lowballing aside. Hulk was in his savage persona, green persona, screaming to be the strongest one there is, till he was palmed and koed. Sun God was stronger, simple as that.

Originally posted by Stoic
So the sun was hitting Jovian from a different angle than it did with the Hulk, thus they are both grey. Only the Hulk isn't being hit fully by the sunlight? This is what you're saying here correct?

Jovian is all green, baby!

http://abload.de/img/6b5y2y.png

But today, the colourist Frank Martin ran out of green halfway through, so subbed gray in!

http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/19200256_New_Avengers_v3_020-010.jpg

Here is the scans Stoic.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-06-25-13-46-15_zps3518d875.png.html?sort=9&o=134

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-06-25-13-47-12_zps90a2b7e0.png.html?sort=9&o=135

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Carvers lowballing aside. Hulk was in his savage persona, green persona, screaming to be the strongest one there is, till he was palmed and koed. Sun God was stronger, simple as that.

But there was context to his transformation based on context. It's not as cut and dry as you may believe it to be. If Banner did take an antidote that shuts off his powers when they spike to a certain level, he would have actually began to grow weaker as he became more irritated, and he appeared to be highly irritated during that fight.

Originally posted by Stoic
But there was context to his transformation based on context. It's not as cut and dry as you may believe it to be. If Banner did take an antidote that shuts off his powers when they spike to a certain level, he would have actually began to grow weaker as he became more irritated, and he appeared to be highly irritated during that fight.

I would be irritated too if someone palmed my all out dublefiststrike... just sayin

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Damn. You got me.

Lol, psyche!

Firstly, GREY-GREEN. Please look at the table again. Stop just focussing on the word you want.

Of course, the eyes....damn. How can I explain that?

Unless two things occur. One. They are light green. Which under amber light, becomes lime-coloured. Which is green.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/4035060-8071605867-HulkG.jpg

Note his eyes. When Hulk gets super pissed, his eyes emit green light of their own. When he goes WBH, they start pouring out. This has always been the case.

I can't believe I have to teach you about Hulk.

Pick one. Either his eyes are emitting green light of their own (as supported by canon) or they are light green (also supported) which looks lime green under amber light.

Personally, I will go with them emitting light/gamma rads/whatever you want to call it.

I do agree though. It's a terrible diagram.

😆

So you post Word Breaker Hulk as evidence of Hulk eye color? Let's not do all of that. Let's be realistic here. Here is a NORMAL Hulk eyes compared to his skin color.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104431/4031009-10.jpg

His skin and his eyes are the same color. Again. Why was his eyes still green in the same sunlight his skin was Grey in?