Raskta Lsu Vs Ka'sim(Sabers Only)
This is dedicated to my friend Emperordmb who is probably ripping his hair because he's undecided on who would win LOL.
Two powerful jedi battle master that were thought to be on the same level as Bane both failed.
the battle takes place on Byss.
Which blademaster wins? who is the superior duelist?
Re: Raskta Lsu Vs Ka'sim(Sabers Only)
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
This is dedicated to my friend Emperordmb who is probably ripping his hair because he's undecided on who would win LOL.Two powerful jedi battle master that were thought to be on the same level as Bane both failed.
the battle takes place on Byss.
Which blademaster wins? who is the superior duelist?
ridiculously good fight.. but i'm taking Ka'sim, since it is sabers only. He was dominating Bane with his preferred lightsaber style until Bane defeated him with the force. Lsu was beating Bane as well, but not nearly as convincingly. (Better Bane too though.)
He sucked badly enough to die to a trainee lol. Raskta's feats are farrr better, including slashing Bane's weak ass six times before he reached her, disappearing and attacking Bane from all angles, killing as many Sith as the thought bomb, and turning her saber fast enough to make a blur. If baldy wasnt wearing his PIS armor he wouldve been dropped by Raskta. Kassem had multiple advantages and still lost. Raskta is faster and more skilled
This fight should be quite even actually. Speedwise they should be similarly matched with Kas'im outpacing POD Bane, and Lsu matching ROT Bane's speed with the battle meditation tilting the scales in her favor.
As far as versatility and breadth of skill go, both possess a mastery of many or all forms of lightsaber combat, as well as great familiarity with various lightsaber variants, so it's not likely either could outclass the other through versatility or unfamiliar techniques or weapons.
Here's where skill comes in. Both have been described as being the greatest duelist of their respective orders. Kas'im has a greater accolade in the form of a statement that says Kas'im was "the greatest living swordsman in the galaxy. Maybe the greatest swordsman ever." Given the multiple points of views used in that chapter, the narrator could be argued as having an omniscient perspective, and Drew Karpyshyn stated that whether or not that quote was from an omniscient narrator or Bane's opinion is up for debate. This means that this quote is either a canon statement, or a view Bane held despite reading numerous exaggerated accounts of ancient Sith Lords and their feats. Either way this accolade is extremely impressive and greater than any Lsu has.
Lsu on the other hand has her Echani abilities, which include an intimate familiarity with her opponent's moves, granting her a form of tactical foresight, and an advanced skill in hand to hand combat.
This is in all honesty, a very close match to call, and I may have to do a little more thinking before I can attribute the win to either of these duelists. But one thing is for sure, this would be one long and spectacular duel.
Originally posted by carthage
Kaseam isnt on her tier, lol. He lost to trainee Bane multiple advantages; unlike Lsu who basically wouldve killed Bane. Try again
And the battle meditation counts as an advantage for Lsu as well.
She still has the better feat of killing more Sith, and the fact Kasayeam is utterly incompetent. For all of his supposed skill he did terribly against Bane. Bane was less skilled, had less training, and was weaker overall. The fact Kasayeam didnt do better and or kill him outright proves hes a shit duelist
Originally posted by carthage
She still has the better feat of killing more Sith, and the fact Kasayeam is utterly incompetent. For all of his supposed skill he did terribly against Bane. Bane was less skilled, had less training, and was weaker overall. The fact Kasayeam didnt do better and or kill him outright proves hes a shit duelist
Nothing indicates he is skilled at all other than Banes unsubstantiated opinion. Knowing seven forms doesnt make him a good duelist, he lacks feats that compare to Raskta's, and he did worse than she did against weak Bane. Raskta is simply better, also given the fact groupthink is strong here, so what if others think Kaseem is good?
Originally posted by carthage
Nothing indicates he is skilled at all other than Banes unsubstantiated opinion.
Kas'im and Bane are also far above and superior to Sirak, who could blend several forms into sequences and was ambidexterous and hailed by the other apprentices as "invincible, untouchable, and the perfect being."
Originally posted by carthage
Knowing seven forms doesnt make him a good duelist,
Originally posted by carthage
he lacks feats that compare to Raskta's, and he did worse than she did against weak Bane.
By "weak Bane", do you mean Bane who had just been promoted to the Sith Council, who would've stomped any other Sith alive at the time?
Originally posted by carthage
so what if others think Kaseem is good?
No he didn't he was incompetent and sucked badly enough to lose when:
1. He had superior training, was more, skilled, and had trained with Bane and knew all of his sequences.
2.Had the trump card of knowing Jar kai
3.Was drawing on a nexus just as much as Bane was for his speed.
Lsu fought a more "powerful" version as weak Bane had armor that made most of her attacks void. He was faster, had an amp, and was invulnerable. Yet she still would've killed him before he even met her head on with six slashes, evaded his blows, and matched his speed. Kasyeam would've been wtfpwned by Orbalisk Bane. Bane's invulnerability, speed, and amp >> Raskta's battle med from a featless Jedi
Drew said it's up for debate whether or not that was Bane's opinion or an omniscient statement, but even if it was Bane's opinion, it is substantiated by the amount of time Bane spent reading up on exaggerated accounts of the feats of ancient Sith as well as Bane's own intelligence, and Lord Kaan's admittance that Kas'im is the greatest duelist in his order.
Bane's opinion is baseless. He didn't know every duelist in the galaxy, the quote is unsubstantiated as Kaseayam is featless outside of Bane's duel, and also lol @ comparing Kasayeam's quote to the quotes of Ancient Sith. Most other ancient Sith lords i,e Kun, Revan, etc have at more feats than an inside quote. Try again
Kas'im and Bane are also far above and superior to Sirak, who could blend several forms into sequences and was ambidexterous and hailed by the other apprentices as "invincible, untouchable, and the perfect being."
You're right they're all featless. 👆
Perfecting every move of every form for decades after beating his master, who was a very skilled duelist, as well as being laughably above one who stomped a duelist of Sirak's caliber does mark him as an extremely good duelist.
LOLNOPE it indicates technical proficiency, not being a "skilled duelist". Kasaem never dueled anyone apart from Bane, there is no evidence he is a skilled duelist to back that claim up. Also Bane got his ass kicked twice by that other guy and Sirrak. He only beat him once, in fact Bane has a history of getting his ass kicked in duels from dying to his weak apprentice, to Sirrak, to those mercenaries. LOL
Kas'im was winning the saber duel. He only lost when Bane used a force wave, something I think Lsu would be ****ed over by as well.
By "weak Bane", do you mean Bane who had just been promoted to the Sith Council, who would've stomped any other Sith alive at the time?
Bane lived in an era of weak Sith. That's why he had to destroy Kaan's order because he even admitted they were weak in the darkside. The fact that Bane is strongest midst a bunch of pussies in Kaan's group makes that claim laughable. Bane would get destroyed by any other Dark lord
Originally posted by truejedi
Not a lot of people could give Orbalisk Bane a tough fight. That armor was a tad ridiculous. He had the strength and speed of Captain America with the force power of maybe sidious or yoda, mixed with the regenerative ability of Wolverine. He was a bad mofo.
Orbalisk Bane isn't strong because of his own skill, its the amp and the invulnerability that made Bane strong. Bane on his own sucks really badly in DOE.
Originally posted by carthage
Your concession is accepted.
I have spent several hours of my life trying to explain the simplest shit to you, but you refuse to take it in, and continue to waste my time. You are a joke, PT****thewinebottle is your only friend on here, and I am done with you. Welcome to my ignore list buddy.
None of what you said is logical though. You have no feats that back up anything for Kaseyeama as "being a great duelist", you've got no examples of Bane beating anyone out of his own skill, and you keep repeating the same stuff because you can't provide any of the requisite proof. I welcome being on your ignore list, it just proves you are not a good debater and are a fanboy like the rest of the EU crowd here.
Also lol @ me being biased for asking for simple feats.