And do have people with a greater height also possess a higher skull density now? My, my. You must be pretty huge, given your ferrous cranus.[/B]
It doesn't matter as Khan matches and exceeds his greatest strength feat. He can also jump further, recover faster, far greater in hand to hand based off feats, and is superhuman to the point of hilarity.
So, actually, your "arguments" can get even more ridiculous. I didn't think, that this was even possible. Did Khan see any defense coming up doing his "skull crushing" action against the Admiral? Didn't see any. Stop talking down feats.
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i have supported my arguments you haven't. You have embellished one feat that Khan has matched on top of every other advantage. Khan is genetically enhanced to be superhuman in every area. I produced evidence to back this claim. Gregor is very strong but also slow and tires quickly. Khan crushed the skull due to imposing his will. Gregor had to play possum and rely on his opponent taking his weapon out of him to talk trash. He was lucky he even had the opportunity.
We don't have Khan crushing his skull. We have Khan gripping his skull with some sound following up and something happening off-screen. So now, you better come up with proof that he crushed the Admirals skull in the same fashion that Clegane did to the Viper, instead of causing otherwise fatal damage to it. I'm waiting.
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We see him applying pressure to his cranium and then we hear a breaking sound. You can pretend the scene wasn't obvious about what occurred in some trolling thing. Clegane used leverage to do so unlike Khan. Clegane also is a lot stronger than Oberyn which isn't the case here. Khan is faster, stronger, and far greater in hand to hand skill. We don't see any hand to hand skill minus a weapon which he showed real inadequacy in dealing with Oberyn.
I mean, hey, of course Khan did crush his skull, but we don't really see how he did it and how the result looked. From what we do see, however, he applies pressure to the areal behind the ears and the top of the skull - where lie the weak-spots, while Clegane did push the face / temple into the skull, which would require a greater force.And thanks for ignoring the fact, that Khan is apparently inable to do any real damage to Kirk with his superhuman strength punches, where Clegane's lead to teeth being spit...
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This isn't a feat comparison thread it is a thread comparing these toe against one another. Khan has all the advantages here. We have already been over the skull crushing feats. Feats don't win fights. Skill and formidability do.
Khan ko'd and beat him pretty easily. He wasn't trying to kill him. He toyed with him. We see Khan crush a skull and you want to act like he can't hurt Kirk ? You're awful. Kirk was unable to hurt Khan and he let him hit him over and over again. Kirk tired himself out. Irony.
I find your misogynistic antics rather amusing - on a psychatric level, that is. That being said: Brienne is damn strong and excellent in hand to hand combat (which is demonstrated and mentioned often enough through the span of the series), so please stop your attempts to talk her and - by extend - the Hound down.We see how Khan, the superhuman being, manages to punch out regular human beings. Where is the point? Black Widow has done more impressive stuff in hand to hand combat...
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You acted as if the hound is super strong but we see in an all out fist fight a woman crush him. Brienne doesn't approach Khan level strength or formidability in the least yet she not only beat him in swordplay she beat him off a cliff.
We see Khan beat up Spock who is vastly stronger than human beings. We see the Hound lose to a human female. 😂
And wow. He kicks that one man. Did you actually watch the fight between The Mountain and the Red Viper? Clegane kicks and throws Martell through half of the arena with apparent ease - while wearing that nice metal armor, that would hinder / slow down his movements.
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You said he never kicks. That is one bit of evidence where he kicks a guy a lot further than Gregor. You exaggerate. Nothing Gregor did with his feet was close to Khan's superhuman kick in that scene. Oberyn danced around and over most of Gregor's slow attacks anyways. Watch the fight.
Khan oneshotted Klingons as well. You said he doesn't kick so your ignorance is exposed.
And?Evidence to put Khan over Clegane in terms of strength and fighting skill would be nice. And armor? Yeah. Ser Gregor totally gives a damn about armor:
YouTube video
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That is proof he kicks. You said he didn't. Do you have the memory of a goldfish ?
He doesn't need armor against malnourished Lestov's but against accomplished fighters he needs it. If he didn't give a damn about it he wouldn't have worn it. Post more videos where he kills untrained, cowardly, featless, malnourished fighters.
Since you, apparently, fail to realize the following fact, I will just attempt to get it to you again: There is nothing in for me, if I would "battlezone this" with you. Neither do I define my ego over this forum, nor do I really care about most things happening here. And it certainly won't be any kind of intellectual challenge involved, seeing that you would be the only opposition. So where is the point, Quanchi?My, my.
Given that I did actually read the five books that "Game of Thrones" is based on, I suppose I have a greater grasp on the characters involved than you do. Not that this is worth much, considering your gross missrepresentation of characters and missinterpretation of feats.
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You backed down. Again. Coward.
But let me break this fight down for you.
To win a hand to hand fight agains the Mountain, Khan would have to close in on the guy, who - given his greater height, is having the reach advantage in this little scenario. Given that Khan is apparently incapable of k.o.'ing Kirk with his punches, it is pretty much out of the question, that he could do something like this to the Mountain. So he needs to "wrestle" that giant down. The same "thing" that is capable of immobilizing, stunning and killing Oberyn Martell, after having received at least two mortal woundings and having suffered through enough physical pain to take down pretty much every normal human being.If Khan had a chance of winning, it would be by speed or intelligence. But then: The Red Viper wasn't exactly slow. So maybe speed is just as well out of the equation. Leaves intelligence. But since this is happening in a regular arena (if I got the start posting right), I don't see how Khan would capitalize on this. So we are back at the question who can deal out more damage and take more damage. And if we go by visual evidence alone, the Mountain is ahead of Khan in both departments.
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1:00 in we see Khan can toss him around with no fear of reprisal.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AuK_LBXE9_o
Khan throws him around and uses Kirk as a bargaining chip. To suggest a genetic superior can't ko a regular man he toys with him hand to hand combat is troll worthy.
Red Viper toyed with Gregor. He showed his speed is well beyond Gregor's ability to counter. He had to rely on him pulling his weapon out of him. Khan is too ruthless to allow him to live in this scenario. Why does he need to wrestle him when he could beat him down. Khan is faster and stronger so there will be no overpowering since he overpowered someone far weaker than Khan physically. You treat all opponents to Gregor by comparison physically to that of Oberyn. Are you an idiot ? Don't answer that. I know the answer.
False. Khan can destroy him faster than Oberyn since he has speed and strength. He's genetically superior and can jump 98 feet for crying out loud. He also can crush skulls which is the only really impressive thing Gregor did after his smaller, weaker opponent pulled his weapon out of him to taunt him.