Khan versus Riddick

Started by Knight_of_S733147 pages

Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Riddick would have chopped those Klingons down just as easy, WITHOUT guns.
It wouldn't have been as clean or as quick as it was for Khan.

Riddick would have had to BFR'd in order to take down that Klingon fighter jet thing. Khan just shot it down because he's strong enough to one-hand a fricken phaser bazooka.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He also used guns, a rifle, a partner, and had a group aiding him. Khan used his legs, and knives as well, sport.
Kirk, spock, and ahura were also fight the Klingons in the battle.

Granted, Khan didn't really need their help.

Originally posted by Knight_of_S7331
Kirk, spock, and ahura were also fight the Klingons in the battle.

Granted, Khan didn't really need their help.

Khan subdued them as well. They weren't fighting with Khan. Khan shot Spock's gun out of his hand.

Riddick is literally a black Jason Bourne on crack.

I stick by what I said before, in a purely h2h fight Riddick would get the upper hand despite Khan's strength advantage. Even if Khan had melee weapons on his person.

You gotta understand that an unarmed Riddick would have wiped the floor with Spock and Ahura.

Originally posted by Knight_of_S7331
Riddick is literally a black Jason Bourne on crack.

I stick by what I said before, in a purely h2h fight Riddick would get the upper hand despite Khan's strength advantage. Even if Khan had melee weapons on his person.

You gotta understand that an unarmed Riddick would have wiped the floor with Spock and Ahura.

Based on what ?

Spock would beat Riddick's ass as well. One nerve pinch and he's out. Mercy captured his ass multiple times.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ?

Spock would beat Riddick's ass as well. One nerve pinch and he's out. Mercy captured his ass multiple times.

Riddick can eject energy from his person. Though that's not under his control.

Just like Spock, Riddick isn't a human.

He's a Furyan, he has superhuman reaction times and senses, and he's fully in touch with his primal side just like Khan was engineered to be.

Whereas Khan just has super strength and is a savant general and weapons engineer - a Furyan's skills are far more h2h fight oriented. Vulcans and Rumulans are a joke compared to Furyans, they're scientifically inclined and stronger than humans, that's it.

Though I doubt the "blue-eyed devil" could ever catch the likes of Khan, but he only caught Riddick, as well as the Mercs and the Necromongers, because Riddick was out-numbered and doesn't use ranged weapons enough and was injured and shit.

Really the only ones who could touch Riddick weren't Mercs, it was the Necromongers.

Originally posted by Knight_of_S7331
Riddick can eject energy from his person. Though that's not under his control.

Just like Spock, Riddick isn't a human.

He's a Furyan, he has superhuman reaction times and senses, and he's fully in touch with his primal side just like Khan was engineered to be.

Whereas Khan just has super strength and is a savant general and weapons engineer - a Furyan's skills are far more h2h fight oriented. Vulcans and Rumulans are a joke compared to Furyans, they're scientifically inclined and stronger than humans, that's it.

Oh so you want to include the director's cut. He'd get mowed down before he ever released that time consuming attack.

Yes, all of these guys are superhuman but I don't see Riddick being able to deal with Spock either.

We see how capable Khan is hand to hand. He roundhouse one shots Klingons and decimated them with knives. We also see him hand to hand fight aboard the dreadnought and easily decimate those crew members.

We see Spock clearly had skill, superhuman strength, and superhuman athleticism.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ? Vaako one shotted him. Debate it if you can, has been.
Lol, no. Riddick was fighting dozens of Necros at once and Vaako cheap shotted him. AND Riddick managed to use a Necro as a meat shield and lived.

riddick takes this period, quan just realised he went for the wrong person and is desperatly trying to cover his ass by making Khan seem great when really he just gets stomped

Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Lol, no. Riddick was fighting dozens of Necros at once and Vaako cheap shotted him. AND Riddick managed to use a Necro as a meat shield and lived.
Riddick also had aid from Kyra and a group. Vaako was more savvy and came out on top.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
riddick takes this period, quan just realised he went for the wrong person and is desperatly trying to cover his ass by making Khan seem great when really he just gets stomped
Khan absolutely wins here. Riddick got captured by mercy more than once.

and khan got beaten up by an angry vulcan so what.

riddick has better feats compared to khan,

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
and khan got beaten up by an angry vulcan so what.

riddick has better feats compared to khan,

Khan was going to kill him. Spock was also armed.

No, he doesn't. Merck beat that ass. Vaako beat that ass. Lord Marshal beat that ass. Khan kills that ass.

khan eats that ass.

khan doesnt win quan

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
khan eats that ass.

khan doesnt win quan

Khan beats him quicker than Vaako did.

khan isnt what i would call amazing, yes i agree he could beat micheal myers

ut beating riddick when he went back to his "wild" self in riddick. no

his fighter self in chronicles... no

anyway given the surroundings riddick has all the advantages, riddick has better knife feats.

has goggles if its too bring and can take them off in the dark.
is able to move around like a ninja and just takes down quan with either the knives or machetes

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
khan isnt what i would call amazing, yes i agree he could beat micheal myers

ut beating riddick when he went back to his "wild" self in riddick. no

his fighter self in chronicles... no

The film Into Darkness bent over backwards portraying him as an amazing superhuman killing machine. You pretending he wasn't because you prefer Riddick isn't a legitimate argument.

Riddick needed saving at the end of Riddick despite his more base self coming back into the fold. Shame.

i dont disagree that khan was showwn as super human. just a super human who couldn't beat a vulcan.

doesnt matter if riddick needed help, he doesnt in this fight due to him having the most advantages