Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Throwback to the days people thought the protagonists could beat Revan.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I don't think many can beat Revan, in-fact "many" is wrong term to use here. I see some names in the lists here who stand no chance.In short, very few can handle him. And even some of these "few" can loose to him as well.
- I am good at drawing accurate inferences. 😎
Originally posted by The Ellimist
There's debate with the likes of Vader, Ragnos/Sadow, etc. If you disable teleportation, Dooku and Anakin could win under conditional starting distances. I'd say Exar Kun would take a majority. Caedus and Krayt almost certainly win. Plagueis tier + dominate.
Count Dooku; Anakin Skywalker; Naga Sadow = no chance at all
Darth Vader and Marka Ragnos = no chance without circumstantial advantage
Darth Caedus; Darth Krayt; and Darth Plagueis = possible (but they may loose as well)
Originally posted by |King Joker|
ahsoka
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Count Dooku; Anakin Skywalker; Naga Sadow = no chance at all
You didn't read my stipulations - in a saber duel, the first two have significantly better feats and accolades, and so would likely gain the upper hand. It's just a matter of getting to that point, which depends a lot on starting conditions, etc.
Vitiate thought Nadd was a legitimate threat to his reign.
Darth Vader and Marka Ragnos = no chance without circumstantial advantage
I'm sort of powerscaling with Ragnos, but Vader has the superior dueling feats, and quite frankly superior feats in the Force thanks to The Force Unleashed. The only area where Revanites can press their luck is with powerscaling, hence why I call things debatable. Beating up the strike team seems a lot less impressive given that none of them are anywhere near Vader's level.
Darth Caedus; Darth Krayt; and Darth Plagueis = possible (but they may loose as well)
Palpatine was scared to take on Plagueis in a fair fight, lol.
No, not even close.
Ahsoka would oneshot Revan lol.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Like what?
Even as a padawan, Anakin's described by Dooku as one of the best djem so practitioners he's ever seen. By RoS, he's considered to be the strongest and fastest Jedi "maybe of any generation", and proceeds to render one of the greatest swordsmen in the history of the galaxy into an utter joke within like 20 seconds.
Darth Vader loses some of his mobility, which he has mostly compensated for by RotJ, but he grows in raw power. Within weeks of getting into his suit, he's already created his own fighting style that combines elements from a variety of fighting styles including juyo/djem so/makashi/soresu/etc.
Basically, I think his demonstrated and implied technical skill in the dueling golden age signals a higher position relative to the mythos than Revan's very vague lightsaber accolades which could apply to Agen Kolar/Qui Gon. Revan's abilities are more unknown than weak, but in the absence of feats, we have to defer to some sort of average given his surrounding abilities, and that doesn't push him up to Vader's level, given that Vader's technical ability is especially prodigious independent of his strength in the Force.
Trying to compare duelists between eras is incredibly haphazard, but given that Vader stands out as a duelist more in a stronger dueling era, I'd give him the edge.