616 Hulk vs Ultimate Thor

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Again if this is god Thor, he could win in a fist fight against Savage or Gravage Hulk. He took down both Hyperion and Zarda at the same time when enraged. He easily withstands blows from Magneto that sent him straight through the earth into the earths core like nothing.

As for powers he can use lightning powerful enough to make Hyperion scream in pain (powerful lightning). His lightning was also enough to solo 3 Captain Britains and 2 Iron Man suits at the same time. He even destroyed all of Asgard with a single charged blow.

He also is a very good fighter, able to decapitate, chop off limbs, and more with his Ax Hammer in a fight. He shown this many times in battles with Frost Giants and Undead Warriors.

So he should be capable of winning most fights. Again this is all god Thor.

Average Ultimate Thor is a depowered human level being who gains powers from a Belt device that grants him Iron Man level stats. He also has a special made hammer with whether manipulation abilities and teleporting abilities to go with it. This average version of Ultimate Thor would lose more than likely.

Let's put some context in the Hyperion fight. Hyperion was depowered/half powered and had been knocked away by Grim.

Originally posted by Kamahamaha
Let's put some context in the Hyperion fight. Hyperion was depowered/half powered and had been knocked away by Grim.

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The first fight they had, Hyperion wrecked him.

Originally posted by carver9
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The first fight they had, Hyperion wrecked him.

Originally posted by carver9
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The first fight they had, Hyperion wrecked him.

Can't remember if it was the first or second but at full power he certainly did.

Originally posted by Kamahamaha
Let's put some context in the Hyperion fight. Hyperion was depowered/half powered and had been knocked away by Grim.

This is mostly false. I understand the thought of the Hex of Scarlet Witch, but few people who use this excuse forget the very simple fact Thor was beating Hyperion and Zarda before the hex was cast. In other words she had not use the Hex yet when Thor was beating both characters.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
And I read on these forums that Hyperion was weaking due to one of the substances of a plant nearby

This is true, however he needed to make contact with the goo, and even then it did not weaken him that much. Thor blasted Hyperion down into the goo and dominated him even though Hyperion was shown not to weaken that much in that short of time at all earlier.

Added to this is Zarda who is not affected by the goo got easy beaten by Ultimate Thor twice. Once when she tried to help Hyperion in Ultimate Power. Second time was when God Thor was resurrected and beat down Zarda twice in a row in a enraged fury.

So the goo factor is overplayed anyway when Hyperion was taken out by a Lightning blast into the goo, and Zarda who is near equals to Hyperion was beaten 3 times in a row easy by Thor. Meanwhile the most damage Hyperion at his best could do to Thor was take his hammer away and let Thor fall. Not much to admire there.

Originally posted by carver9
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The first fight they had, Hyperion wrecked him.

We read the same fight? Hyperion never wrecked thor in the 3 battles they had. First comic had Thor and Hyperion matched up fine. Second battle had Hyperion grab Thor's hammer which allows Thor to fly, and let Thor fall to earth. Hardly wrecked anything as Thor got right back up and blasted Hyperion from the sky as he flew away. Last fight had Thor wrecking Hyperion and Zarda at the same time when Thor stopped holding back. He was shown enraged by dialogue at that point.

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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145031-thor+vs+hyperion+%235+%285%29.png

Heck even here Thor draws blood on Hyperion, Hyperion could not do the same at all to Thor. All Hyperion could do was take the hammer away and allow Thor to fall.

Thor quickly gets right back up.

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As seen Thor quickly overpowers Zarda and Hyperion together before the Wanda depowers anyone.

Here 100% Zarda with bloodlust gets easy beaten by God Thor.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050793-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%287%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050794-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%288%29.jpg

Thor easy beats her again.
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050805-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2819%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050806-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2820%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050815-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2822%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050816-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2823%29.jpg

Keep in mind in these last two battles Thor also was fighting a Asgardian troll army with dragons, Iron Man twice, Loki, and the rest of the Ultimates. Beats Zarda while fighting everyone twice.

God Thor is clearly a higher level than Supreme Power's Hyperion.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
This is mostly false. I understand the thought of the Hex of Scarlet Witch, but few people who use this excuse forget the very simple fact Thor was beating Hyperion and Zarda before the hex was cast. In other words she had not use the Hex yet when Thor was beating both characters.

This is true, however he needed to make contact with the goo, and even then it did not weaken him that much. Thor blasted Hyperion down into the goo and dominated him even though Hyperion was shown not to weaken that much in that short of time at all earlier.

Added to this is Zarda who is not affected by the goo got easy beaten by Ultimate Thor twice. Once when she tried to help Hyperion in Ultimate Power. Second time was when God Thor was resurrected and beat down Zarda twice in a row in a enraged fury.

So the goo factor is overplayed anyway when Hyperion was taken out by a Lightning blast into the goo, and Zarda who is near equals to Hyperion was beaten 3 times in a row easy by Thor. Meanwhile the most damage Hyperion at his best could do to Thor was take his hammer away and let Thor fall. Not much to admire there.

We read the same fight? Hyperion never wrecked thor in the 3 battles they had. First comic had Thor and Hyperion matched up fine. Second battle had Hyperion grab Thor's hammer which allows Thor to fly, and let Thor fall to earth. Hardly wrecked anything as Thor got right back up and blasted Hyperion from the sky as he flew away. Last fight had Thor wrecking Hyperion and Zarda at the same time when Thor stopped holding back. He was shown enraged by dialogue at that point.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145028-thor+vs+hyperion+%235+%282%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145029-thor+vs+hyperion+%235+%283%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145031-thor+vs+hyperion+%235+%285%29.png

Heck even here Thor draws blood on Hyperion, Hyperion could not do the same at all to Thor. All Hyperion could do was take the hammer away and allow Thor to fall.

Thor quickly gets right back up.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145048-thor+vs+hyperion+%237+%281%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145049-thor+vs+hyperion+%237+%282%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145050-thor+vs+hyperion+%237+%283%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145051-thor+vs+hyperion+%237+%284%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3145052-thor+vs+hyperion+%237+%285%29.png

As seen Thor quickly overpowers Zarda and Hyperion together before the Wanda depowers anyone.

Here 100% Zarda with bloodlust gets easy beaten by God Thor.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050793-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%287%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050794-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%288%29.jpg

Thor easy beats her again.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050804-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2818%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050805-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2819%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050806-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2820%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050815-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2822%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3050816-thor+vs+ultimate+%235+%2823%29.jpg

Keep in mind in these last two battles Thor also was fighting a Asgardian troll army with dragons, Iron Man twice, Loki, and the rest of the Ultimates. Beats Zarda while fighting everyone twice.

God Thor is clearly a higher level than Supreme Power's Hyperion.

Have you read the scans you've just posted?

Don't think he has read the comic before. The scans he posted l, Hyperion was weakened. Their first fight, Hype was at full power and beat Thor and the Fantastic four. He will be hard pressed proving Hype didn't ko Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't think he has read the comic before. The scans he posted l, Hyperion was weakened. Their first fight, Hype was at full power and beat Thor and the Fantastic four. He will be hard pressed proving Hype didn't ko Thor.

I cant remember it that well I thought it was a shit sales gimmick comic. I do remember Hype gave as good as he got though.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't think he has read the comic before. The scans he posted l, Hyperion was weakened. Their first fight, Hype was at full power and beat Thor and the Fantastic four. He will be hard pressed proving Hype didn't ko Thor.

Originally posted by Kamahamaha
I cant remember it that well I thought it was a shit sales gimmick comic. I do remember Hype gave as good as he got though.

I uploaded the scans here.

http://imgur.com/a/Mb9wN

I remember Hyperion being warned not to come anywhere near that thing and that pissed Hyperion off becuase he wanted to see people die. Sorry man can't check your scans. Now I'm on my phone, my laptop is being repaired. The neighbours' kid came to our house when I was out and my mom carelessly let him into my room. It's my fault too. I should've locked it up after I finished using it. Smash. Luckily the hard disk or anything else important is not damaged, just the screen has some blurring.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I uploaded the scans here.

http://imgur.com/a/Mb9wN

Thanks pal, that's more as I remember things.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I uploaded the scans here.

http://imgur.com/a/Mb9wN

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Thanks bud.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
I remember Hyperion being warned not to come anywhere near that thing and that pissed Hyperion off becuase he wanted to see people die. Sorry man can't check your scans. Now I'm on my phone, my laptop is being repaired. The neighbours' kid came to our house when I was out and my mom carelessly let him into my room. It's my fault too. I should've locked it up after I finished using it. Smash. Luckily the hard disk or anything else important is not damaged, just the screen has some blurring.

That sucks, Hope its salvageable. I know what that is like.

Originally posted by Kamahamaha
Have you read the scans you've just posted?

I do own the comic and hand scaned half of them, yes.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't think he has read the comic before. The scans he posted l, Hyperion was weakened. Their first fight, Hype was at full power and beat Thor and the Fantastic four. He will be hard pressed proving Hype didn't ko Thor.

Im not sure how Hyperion bested Thor here. He was getting busted up by Thor (bleeding from the mouth), and Thor had no shown damage. Thor then backed off so IW and Torch do their thing, they failed. Then Thor went back at Hyperion who grabbed the Hammer, and hit Thor with it. Thus Thor fell as he cannot fly with no Hammer. As soon as Thor hit the ground, he got right back up and one shot Hyperion flying away with a Lightning Bolt which caused Hyperion to scream in pain.

In no way was Thor shown KO (he got right back up to hit flying away Hyperion with a Lightning Bolt) and showed know form of damage (Hyperion showed damage from bleeding mouth as well screaming in pain).

So again, how was Thor beaten up in any way here?

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I uploaded the scans here.

http://imgur.com/a/Mb9wN

This only posts half the fight. Missing these parts here in the next comic.

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This concludes the whole battle as Hyperion never even made it that far away from Thor when Thor got right back up. Its two part comic long fight.

In the edn, thor did way more to Hyperion than Vice versa before Hyperion was knocked into the Goo in which case he was done. Even with back up from Zarda.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
That sucks, Hope its salvageable. I know what that is like.

I do own the comic and hand scaned half of them, yes.

Im not sure how Hyperion bested Thor here. He was getting busted up by Thor (bleeding from the mouth), and Thor had no shown damage. Thor then backed off so IW and Torch do their thing, they failed. Then Thor went back at Hyperion who grabbed the Hammer, and hit Thor with it. Thus Thor fell as he cannot fly with no Hammer. As soon as Thor hit the ground, he got right back up and one shot Hyperion flying away with a Lightning Bolt which caused Hyperion to scream in pain.

In no way was Thor shown KO (he got right back up to hit flying away Hyperion with a Lightning Bolt) and showed know form of damage (Hyperion showed damage from bleeding mouth as well screaming in pain).

So again, how was Thor beaten up in any way here?

This only posts half the fight. Missing these parts here in the next comic.

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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...237+%282%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...237+%283%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...237+%284%29.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...237+%285%29.png

This concludes the whole battle as Hyperion never even made it that far away from Thor when Thor got right back up. Its two part comic long fight.

In the edn, thor did way more to Hyperion than Vice versa before Hyperion was knocked into the Goo in which case he was done. Even with back up from Zarda.

Ah I admit I never knew there was more to the fight, need to add them to my scans. Your images are 404'ing though.

His scans don't work. I would love to see what he is talking about because Hyperion flew off from what I recall and Thor was knocked out. I could be wrong since I haven't read the comic in a while.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Ah I admit I never knew there was more to the fight, need to add them to my scans. Your images are 404'ing though.

Originally posted by carver9
His scans don't work. I would love to see what he is talking about because Hyperion flew off from what I recall and Thor was knocked out. I could be wrong since I haven't read the comic in a while.

Crap that they are not working. I can post the link here.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/ultimate-ultimates-tribute-1461867/

Post #2. Towards the middle bottom is the fights is posted of the Full Thor vs Hyperion fight in Ultimate Power. As well the Zarda beat down of Thor vs the Ultimates after that fight. As well thor taking down a huge portion of Reed Richards Captain Britain level army till Thor is depowered.

Originally posted by CadenceV2
Crap that they are not working. I can post the link here.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/ultimate-ultimates-tribute-1461867/

Post #2. Towards the middle bottom is the fights is posted of the Full Thor vs Hyperion fight in Ultimate Power. As well the Zarda beat down of Thor vs the Ultimates after that fight. As well thor taking down a huge portion of Reed Richards Captain Britain level army till Thor is depowered.

Okay thanks for that.

Hulk

Post Thor's speed feats as well, and then I'll start the argument for Hulk

No one is arguing for Thor.