Thanos Vs H/P Doomsday

Originally posted by Galan007
carver, the entropy/aegis armor could create entropy. of course entropy isn't going to negatively affect it. none

also, darkseid teleported superman away from the field BEFORE imperiex's blast touched him:
http://i.imgur.com/H02XY9g.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y6TcDv3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2AZZVOG.jpg

darkseid confirms in the following issue:
http://i.imgur.com/L6z2BsY.jpg

gotta read dem comics, carv. 👆

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Good post. I thought the reason he was on fire was due to Imperiex blast. Remember Darkseid saying that but reading it in its entirety, I see where it someone could pick up on Darkseid transporting him before the blasts touched him.

Sun dipped Superman still withstood those same blasts.

Originally posted by carver9
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Good post. I thought the reason he was on fire was due to Imperiex blast. Remember Darkseid saying that but reading it in its entirety, I see where it someone could pick up on Darkseid transporting him before the blasts touched him.

Sun dipped Superman still withstood those same blasts.

entropy never touched sun-dipped superman either.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
How is he getting pass Thanos shields? Remember, Champion couldn't even do it and he wrecked a planet in the same fight (he also possessed the power gem).

1. Champion was crumbing Thanos shields FAR before he reached planet destroying power. The actual planet destroying hit didn't touch Thanos shields.

2. Champion only destroyed the planet by leaping far up (something he wasn't doing hitting Thanos shields). The planet actually destroyed itself. Champion just created an instability in the planet. The core of the planet became unstable and blew itself up.
Gladiator's feat was better.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos can amplify every stat that he has, and he can heal from virtually any wound by Death's decree, and for the simple fact that he is an Eternal (one of the most powerful ones to boot).

1. I would like proof that Thanos can amplify every stat on a whim in battle. And then proof that he didn't amplify every stat before coming into major battles.

2. Thanos healing ability is almost non existent as based off his history.
He heals faster than a human but much slower than Wolverine or Hulk.

Originally posted by Galan007
entropy never touched superman.

entropy never touched sun-dipped superman either.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/2964724-2604578-actioncomics782pg13vs8_zps56f26528.jpg.html

Were they not powered by Impreriex energy? Also, wasn't the planet blasting at Superman?

just because b13 was leeching energy from imperiex doesn't mean he just started shitting out entropy. the fact that superman survived those blasts is proof that it wasn't entropy, tbh. 👆

also imperiex wasn't just a one-dimensional character who *only* embodied entropy/destruction--he was also a fundamental force of rebirth. 🙂

Originally posted by Estacado
He beats guys like Lord-Marvell who could have 1 shoted the Annihilators.He does better against Tyrant then a team of heralds.

Your assuming that Thor or Hulk could stand up to him is pretty ridiculous.

This is silly logic.
Lord-Marvell fought Thanos on a physical level. He even affected Thanos physically.
What are Lord-Marvell's durability feats, strength feats,...? You can't use a scene where he creates a bomb to kill the Annihilators as proof to how strong or durable he is. We have no idea how he generated that bomb. It could have been prep, magic, tech, etc.

Did you see how Tyrant went up against multiple opponents? Did you read the fights?
There was nothing Tyrant did to suggest he was more than 3x Gladiator in physical might. Thanos had an amp and still was no match.

Originally posted by h1a8
Let me straighten your logic out my son.

1. Champion was crumbing Thanos shields FAR before he reached planet destroying power. The actual planet destroying hit didn't touch Thanos shields.

2. Champion only destroyed the planet by leaping far up (something he wasn't doing hitting Thanos shields). The planet actually destroyed itself. Champion just created an instability in the planet. The core of the planet became unstable and blew itself up.
Gladiator's feat was better.

1. I would like proof that Thanos can amplify every stat on a whim in battle. And then proof that he didn't amplify every stat before coming into major battles.

2. Thanos healing ability is almost non existent as based off his history.
He heals faster than a human but much slower than Wolverine or Hulk.

He did it when he fought his doppelganger. Is this proof enough? Also your take on the Champion showing is wrong, but what's new? The Champion wasn't holding back when he was hitting Thanos' shields, I'm not sure what exactly you were seeing, but he was trying to kill Thanos. When this did not happen he took to the skies and attempting to kill Thanos by taking another approach. I don't know why you make these things up, that go outside of what was actually seen in the book.

Thanos came back from bones. How long do you think that took? How long did it take HP DD to come back from being reduced to bones? Years? You only see what you want to see.

Originally posted by Galan007
just because b13 was leeching energy from imperiex doesn't mean he just started shitting out entropy. the fact that superman survived those blasts is proof that it wasn't entropy, tbh. 👆

also imperiex wasn't just a one-dimensional character who *only* embodied entropy/destruction--he was also a fundamental force of rebirth. 🙂

👆 Gotcha.

Originally posted by Galan007
i'm saying that it is faulty to compare the blast omega used against thanos to the blast imperiex used against dd, as they were obviously not the same type of energy. this is extremely important because thanos would [also] be 'fried' if imperiex were to blast him with entropy.

remember, entropy is to dc what nullification is to marvel. and given that entropy has destroyed entire universeS, and even abstract concepts(like death itself), being killed by it is certainly not a poor durability showing by any stretch.

during the h/p arc, superman was massively(and i mean massively) amped, yet dd still utterly thrashed him like a second-rate piece of fodder.

Would DD live through Omega? I understand everything that you said, but would DD live past Omega is my question? Power is power, even at different levels.

Originally posted by Stoic
Would DD live through Omega? I understand everything that you said, but would DD live past Omega is my question? Power is power, even at different levels.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why not? Thanos used shields to block the brunt of Omega's attack. DD survived the OB at point blank range. The OB vaporized two missiles (at less than half power) that Superman, with all of his might, couldn't even damage in the slightest.

So Darkseid is a match for Omega who was written to be more powerful than Galactus because he destroyed missiles that Superman could not destroy?

Originally posted by Stoic
So Darkseid is a match for Omega who was written to be more powerful than Galactus because he destroyed missiles that Superman could not destroy?

Darksied in that particular comic had a power output greater than Omega in that particular comic.

Character's power output ranges from comic to comic. Odin has shown a greater power output in a particular comic (highest showing) than Galactus has in another particular comic (lowest showing).

We go by feats, not opinions.
You can't equate a character's highest feats with EVERY showing they have been in.
Otherwise, Gladiator has always punched with planet busting power.

Sorry but it takes more than billion of times more power output to vaporize something than to simply barely destroy it. And it takes several times more power output to destroy something than to damage it slightly. Superman couldn't even damage it slightly. So the OB was more than billions of times more powerful than Superman.

There is no evidence to suggest that Omega's blasts was beyond billions of times more power than Superman.

double post

Originally posted by carver9
That was a good post from Rao and Thanos also does have some impressive showings, against high tier beings. I want to see Thanos in an actual fight, kinda like his showing against Odin and Tyrant, no interference but I want to see it with someone like Thor or Hulk. If he stomps them, oh well, if it ends in a draw, oh well, if it ends with Thanos on the losing end, oh well. At least it would get rid of a lot of discussion here and we would have an indication on how far Thanos is up the tier than Heralds and trans tiers.

Originally posted by h1a8
Being a match and having a stronger power output in particular comics are two different things.

Darksied in that particular comic had a power output greater than Omega in that particular comic.

Character's power output ranges from comic to comic. Odin has shown a greater power output in a particular comic (highest showing) than Galactus has in another particular comic (lowest showing).

We go by feats, not opinions.
You can't equate a character's highest feats with EVERY showing they have been in.
Otherwise, Gladiator has always punched with planet busting power.

Sorry but it takes more than billion of times more power output to vaporize something than to simply barely destroy it. And it takes several times more power output to destroy something than to damage it slightly. Superman couldn't even damage it slightly. So the OB was more than billions of times more powerful than Superman.

There is no evidence to suggest that Omega's blasts was beyond billions of times more power than Superman.

That's the stupidest thing that I may have ever read. Darkseid is not more powerful than Omega, so just give that little theory a rest. And if by you going by that feat made him billions of times greater than Superman, I guess that this particular showing would also make him billions of time greater than HP DD correct? Then why make a statement that would turn around, and bite you square in the ass? And if it's feats that we go by, and not opinion, why is it that all you are saying is opinion? Darkseid gets mauled by DD, but then he's billions of times greater than DD. Yeah I'm sure anyone reading what you stated are following along without question.

Originally posted by Galan007
carver, the entropy/aegis armor could create entropy. of course entropy isn't going to negatively affect it. none

also, darkseid teleported superman away from the field BEFORE imperiex's blast touched him:
http://i.imgur.com/H02XY9g.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y6TcDv3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2AZZVOG.jpg

darkseid confirms in the following issue:
http://i.imgur.com/L6z2BsY.jpg
ie. entropy never touched him.

gotta read dem comics, carv. 👆

I know this is going off-topic, but......

The art shows Superman getting hit. The following comic for the storyline, Darkseid doesn't say anything about taking him away before he got hit. In fact, narration earlier than the scan you showed said, "The Kryptonian has himself this day faced death and felt its breath--before Imperiex he fell but was sparred the killing blow." So Imperiex beat Superman by staring at him, but didn't hit him with the energy blast even though the art shows him being hit?

Originally posted by Delta1938
I know this is going off-topic, but......

The art shows Superman getting hit. The following comic for the storyline, Darkseid doesn't say anything about taking him away before he got hit. In fact, narration earlier than the scan you showed said, "The Kryptonian has himself this day faced death and felt its breath--before Imperiex he fell but was sparred the killing blow." So Imperiex beat Superman by staring at him, but didn't hit him with the energy blast even though the art shows him being hit?

Superman did not get hit by Entropy. Darkseid saved his ass.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Don't know why you still won't accept that he is so far beyond high herald it's comical.
Even one of the definitive high heralds in comics can't do anything against him except get literally beaten to near death.

Was Thano's using shields and tech? It appears so, because after blocking Surfer's blast, he uppercuts SS, the fist looks like it has residual energy around it.

Then the punch to the gut, a straight physical punch wouldn't have yellow lightening emitting from what appears to be Thanos hand/fist.

The same color as the blast that thanos hit ss with in the first panel and similar to the energy emitted when he teleported with the surfer. Then in that 1st of the tiny scan's Thanos finishes a punch and you can clearly see his fist glowing with engery. Definitely was amping his punches.

Also the way surfer's blast dispersed after hitting Thanos' hand looks like he put up a shield. The energy from ss' blast after hitting his hand, went around thanos instead of going straight into his hand and face. Looks like Thanos had prep here.

Originally posted by SquallX
Superman did not get hit by Entropy. Darkseid saved his ass.

What a well thought-out, compelling and convincing argument that counters and disproves every point I made from the two relevant issues. I have seen the light. Superman was never hit.

In unrelated news, I have a new pet unicorn that hunts and eats saltwater crocodiles and sneezes rainbows of napalm.