Thanos Vs H/P Doomsday

Originally posted by Diesldude
Was Thano's using shields and tech? It appears so, because after blocking Surfer's blast, he uppercuts SS, the fist looks like it has residual energy around it.

Then the punch to the gut, a straight physical punch wouldn't have yellow lightening emitting from what appears to be Thanos hand/fist.

The same color as the blast that thanos hit ss with in the first panel and similar to the energy emitted when he teleported with the surfer. Then in that 1st of the tiny scan's Thanos finishes a punch and you can clearly see his fist glowing with engery. Definitely was amping his punches.

Also the way surfer's blast dispersed after hitting Thanos' hand looks like he put up a shield. The energy from ss' blast after hitting his hand, went around thanos instead of going straight into his hand and face. Looks like Thanos had prep here.

What does having tech have to do with how Surfer got stomped here? Thanos almost always has tech. He is a being of both science and magics.

What does him amping punches have to do with anything?

Again he did not use shields in the traditional sense. Yes he did if you count his own hands. In fact that scene is almost lowballing how he usually treats Surfer's blasts. Normally he eats them up with a smile. I can show you that too if you want, but you should just take my word for it.

Why would you think he had prep? 😮

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He did not use shields. Not sure how you came up with that.

What does having tech have to do with how Surfer got stomped here? Thanos almost always has tech. He is a being of both science and magics.

What does him amping punches have to do with anything?

Again he did not use shields in the traditional sense. Yes he did if you count his own hands. In fact that scene is almost lowballing how he usually treats Surfer's blasts. Normally he eats them up with a smile. I can show you that too if you want, but you should just take my word for it.

Why would you think he had prep? 😮

He did use shields, like you said he is a being of science and magic and uses tech which is a part of him. Why would he block surfers blast by raising his hand up? The energy dispersed completely around Thanos, none of it went past his hand. The blast from surfer couldn't have been palm sized, could it?

I've seen that scan of surfer hitting Thano's in the face, but that was a warning shot. Thanos iis a tactical genius and knows how surfer will react. This blast and the one that Thanos ate were completely different in power output. One, the blast Surfer created here was after he got cheapshotted. Thanos knew that Surfer would be pissed/hurt and will more than likely go with a powerful attack instead of a warning shot and had his shields ready just in case.

I know Amping his punches is a part Thanos' powerset but why did Thanos need to amp here especially after a cheapshot,which in comics usually take a huge toll on the person getting hit.

Now when you take all this into consideration, Thanos had prep because he came ready to fight, caught the surfer off guard and made quick work with everything at his disposal.

Originally posted by Stoic
That's the stupidest thing that I may have ever read. Darkseid is not more powerful than Omega, so just give that little theory a rest. And if by you going by that feat made him billions of times greater than Superman, I guess that this particular showing would also make him billions of time greater than HP DD correct? Then why make a statement that would turn around, and bite you square in the ass? And if it's feats that we go by, and not opinion, why is it that all you are saying is opinion? Darkseid gets mauled by DD, but then he's billions of times greater than DD. Yeah I'm sure anyone reading what you stated are following along without question.

We go by feats.
On average DS isn't more powerful than Galactus. But in that arc, the OB was astronomically more powerful than Superman. This was a fact. HP DD took more than twice that power.

Omega never was shown to be even 100x more powerful than Superman.

Durability, power blast output, strength, speed, skill are all different things.
You can't equate one thing with another.
DS blasting power has nothing to do with his strength, durability, or speed.
DD was physically stronger, faster, etc.

Originally posted by Diesldude
He did use shields, like you said he is a being of science and magic and uses tech which is a part of him. Why would he block surfers blast by raising his hand up? The energy dispersed completely around Thanos, none of it went past his hand. The blast from surfer couldn't have been palm sized, could it?

I've seen that scan of surfer hitting Thano's in the face, but that was a warning shot. Thanos iis a tactical genius and knows how surfer will react. This blast and the one that Thanos ate were completely different in power output. One, the blast Surfer created here was after he got cheapshotted. Thanos knew that Surfer would be pissed/hurt and will more than likely go with a powerful attack instead of a warning shot and had his shields ready just in case.

I know Amping his punches is a part Thanos' powerset but why did Thanos need to amp here especially after a cheapshot,which in comics usually take a huge toll on the person getting hit.

Now when you take all this into consideration, Thanos had prep because he came ready to fight, caught the surfer off guard and made quick work with everything at his disposal.

And yet he wasn't knocked out. Surfer was easily on even ground when he recovered and blasted back.

This scene? Pretty sure Surfer warned him first, but blasted away when he got fed up. I mean it's pretty clear in the scan.
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Now back to amping. Again what does Thanos having amped punches have to do with anything? I wish you would just stop beating around the bush and tell me what point you're trying to get at.

So prep now is Thanos being battle-ready for random situations?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Where's your proof of shields other than you piggybacking on my statement of "science and magics"? When he uses shields, it's almost always quite clear.

And yet he wasn't knocked out. Surfer was easily on even ground when he recovered and blasted back.

This scene? Pretty sure Surfer warned him first, but blasted away when he got fed up. I mean it's pretty clear in the scan.
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Now back to amping. Again what does Thanos having amped punches have to do with anything? I wish you would just stop beating around the bush and tell me what point you're trying to get at.

So prep now is Thanos being battle-ready for random situations?

Surfer doesn't go for the kill on the first blast right unless his life depends on it right. But that's besides the point..

Ok thanks for bring up the scans, appreciate it..

Look at the blast surfer hits thanos while he is on his chair and compare that to the blast that thanos blocked with his hands.

The engery hits thanos all around and went behind and hit his chair as well. But in the scan where he raises his hand, the engery is dispersed around it, never going behind the hand into thanos/

The reason i'm bringing up energy amped punches is, that, can Thano's do what he did with just his physical stats? If he didn't amp his punches could he have done what he did to the surfer?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Where's your proof of shields other than you piggybacking on my statement of "science and magics"? When he uses shields, it's almost always quite clear.

Decided to answer as well,

The shields are not always visible or quite clear as you say it is. Notice the scans of his fight with the champion. Everyone agrees that he had his shields up but we don't see them until they are cracking. If they didn't crack or remained invisible we would all have assumed that he wasn't using them even though he was.
His shields can be invisible or at least are invisible until they crack.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Wanted to answer as well,

The shields are not always visible or quite clear as you say it is. Notice the scans of his fight with the champion. Everyone agrees that he had his shields up but we don't see them until they are cracking. If they didn't crack or remained invisible we would all have assumed that he wasn't using them even though he was.
His shields can be invisible or at least are invisible until they crack.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The artist always shows either the shields or them breaking. We have never seen any shield be destroyed without any artist making it clear in one way or another. This is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Diesldude
So if they never break, they aren't there even though the engery blast dispersed like there was something?

Originally posted by Delta1938
What a well thought-out, compelling and convincing argument that counters and disproves every point I made from the two relevant issues. I have seen the light. Superman was never hit.

In unrelated news, I have a new pet unicorn that hunts and eats saltwater crocodiles and sneezes rainbows of napalm.

That's his cosmic plasma fist. He has always used it. It wasn't shields, it was him amping.

Originally posted by Stoic
That's his cosmic plasma fist. He has always used it. It wasn't shields, it was him amping.

I get replies to sub-debates I'm not even part of!!

Originally posted by Diesldude
Surfer doesn't go for the kill on the first blast right unless his life depends on it right. But that's besides the point..

Ok thanks for bring up the scans, appreciate it..

Look at the blast surfer hits thanos while he is on his chair and compare that to the blast that thanos blocked with his hands.

The engery hits thanos all around and went behind and hit his chair as well. But in the scan where he raises his hand, the engery is dispersed around it, never going behind the hand into thanos/

The reason i'm bringing up energy amped punches is, that, can Thano's do what he did with just his physical stats? If he didn't amp his punches could he have done what he did to the surfer?

Not one, but 2 lightning shots from Thor. Laughs it off.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11112/111121459/3474873-7530516277-34733.jpg

Wades through a concentrated Gungnir blast from Odin no less.
http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad9/ThorOdinson/Odin09.jpg

What are you trying to get at with Surfer's blast?

And you're point about amped punches is irrelevant to this thread... But to answer your question, that's a resounding YES! He would physically tool Surfer without amped punches. To think so otherwise is being ignorant to the character.

Then again you're probably a hater. I wouldn't mind though. Can't tell you what characters to like or dislike..

Originally posted by Diesldude
Decided to answer as well,

The shields are not always visible or quite clear as you say it is. Notice the scans of his fight with the champion. Everyone agrees that he had his shields up but we don't see them until they are cracking. If they didn't crack or remained invisible we would all have assumed that he wasn't using them even though he was.
His shields can be invisible or at least are invisible until they crack.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I get replies to sub-debates I'm not even part of!!

Sorry man I quoted the wrong person.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Erm.. We are talking about artist's interpretation right? The fact that it was cracked shows that the artist meant to show shielding.
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Originally posted by Stoic
Sorry man I quoted the wrong person.

Oh, I was just doing a little lighthearted trolling 'cuz I found it funny. 😄

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based off his logic Thanos could have invisible shielding on all the time because proof isn't required.

😂

Originally posted by Delta1938
Oh, I was just doing a little lighthearted trolling 'cuz I found it funny. 😄

Originally posted by LeonBuco666

Originally posted by Delta1938