Thanos Vs H/P Doomsday

Originally posted by Delta1938
So basically, your entire argument that Superman was teleported before he got hit by anything is based on Darkseid's dialogue. Superman was shown hit by an energy blast on-panel, in MOS #116 we see narration state that Superman was defeated by Imperiex, he's unconscious when brought to Apokolips.

Tbf, his entire argument also explains everything else.

Superman gets hit by....OK, let's call it residual energy. The wavefront, whatever. NOT the full blast. It's still powerful enough (relative to Supes) to KO him.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Is h1a8 being a moron again? Now DS in that arc with HPDD was 100x more powerful than superman.. and a rival to galactus? I still say there should be a ban for not reading comics and posting idiocy on a daily basis.

Again Thanos puts down DD each time they meet for the first time... That is just how it would go down. There is no logical reason to think he wouldn't. Sure it would be a good fight... but he'd be put down. Then they would meet for match no. 2 (which again is for the first time with no adaptation) and he would be put down again.

DD tanked the shit. Ergo, Thanos ain't putting a scratch on DD with blasts.
His best bet is with physical blunt force. And if he gets into a scuffle with someone stronger, quicker, and with cutting weapons then Thanos would lose in a matter of moments.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So basically, your entire argument that Superman was teleported before he got hit by anything is based on Darkseid's dialogue. Superman was shown hit by an energy blast on-panel, in MOS #116 we see narration state that Superman was defeated by Imperiex, he's unconscious when brought to Apokolips.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf, his entire argument also explains everything else.

Superman gets hit by....OK, let's call it residual energy. The wavefront, whatever. NOT the full blast. It's still powerful enough (relative to Supes) to KO him.

He said Darkseid teleported Superman away before anything hit him.

Originally posted by Galan007
carver, the entropy/aegis armor could create entropy. of course entropy isn't going to negatively affect it. none

also, darkseid teleported superman away from the field BEFORE imperiex's blast touched him:
http://i.imgur.com/H02XY9g.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y6TcDv3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2AZZVOG.jpg

darkseid confirms in the following issue:
http://i.imgur.com/L6z2BsY.jpg
ie. entropy never touched him.

gotta read dem comics, carv. 👆

Then when replying to my scan, he said Darkseid teleported Superman away before "entropy destroyed him" and said "Superman did not 'tank' entropy." Which.....was never my claim. Since I pointed-out Imperiex defeated Superman according to on-panel narration and Superman is unconscious when on Apokolips. Clearly the on-panel narration for SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL #116 backs that Superman go hit. Darkseid teleported him before Superman was killed? Yep. Darkseid teleported him BEFORE Superman got hit by Imperiex's blast? On-panel narration says otherwise, and Darkseid's dialogue simply says he saved Superman before he got killed. Not that he saved Superman before he got hit. If he teleported Superman before the blast hit him, why is he unconscious?

Originally posted by JBL
Do you not understand what " spared the killing blow "means??? The energy that was going to kill superman NEVER hit him or else he would have been murdered. What little energy ( not the killing blow ) that hit him,knocked his ass out. But i fear its a waste of time for ANYONE to try and tell you something because in your mind, superman must shine right?

Are you saying that the energy would have killed him if he was hit at all, but then Superman was hit? Are you really this stupid? Or are you assuming Imperiex fired two different blasts at Superman of two different forms of energy?

Originally posted by Delta1938
He said Darkseid teleported Superman away before anything hit him.

Then when replying to my scan, he said Darkseid teleported Superman away before "entropy destroyed him" and said "Superman did not 'tank' entropy." Which.....was never my claim. Since I pointed-out Imperiex defeated Superman according to on-panel narration and Superman is unconscious when on Apokolips. Clearly the on-panel narration for SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL #116 backs that Superman go hit. Darkseid teleported him before Superman was killed? Yep. Darkseid teleported him BEFORE Superman got hit by Imperiex's blast? On-panel narration says otherwise, and Darkseid's dialogue simply says he saved Superman before he got killed. Not that he saved Superman before he got hit. If he teleported Superman before the blast hit him, why is he unconscious?

JBL had a good analogy with volcanoes.

DS' dialogue said he saved Superman before the killing BLOW. Unless the blast was pulsed, or Supes was hit multiple times, it would appear just being NEAR the blast was enough to knock him unconscious. Then DS swoops in.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf, his entire argument also explains everything else.

Superman gets hit by....OK, let's call it residual energy. The wavefront, whatever. NOT the full blast. It's still powerful enough (relative to Supes) to KO him.

It is painfully obvious but some people only see what they want to see.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
JBL had a good analogy with volcanoes.

DS' dialogue said he saved Superman before the killing BLOW. Unless the blast was pulsed, or Supes was hit multiple times, it would appear just being NEAR the blast was enough to knock him unconscious. Then DS swoops in.

JBL has no idea what he's talking about. He's just grasping at straws based on what Galan said, which in all honesty I don't think Galan even noticed the narration of Imperiex beat Superman. Galan's original claim was Superman was never hit, and used Darkseid's statement of saving Superman, but narration indicates Superman was hit by the blast. And Superman was near Doomsday when Imperiex killed Doomsday and was still conscious. I figure Darkseid teleported him while the blast was still being fired.

Originally posted by Delta1938
He said Darkseid teleported Superman away before anything hit him.

Then when replying to my scan, he said Darkseid teleported Superman away before "entropy destroyed him" and said "Superman did not 'tank' entropy." Which.....was never my claim. Since I pointed-out Imperiex defeated Superman according to on-panel narration and Superman is unconscious when on Apokolips. Clearly the on-panel narration for SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL #116 backs that Superman go hit. Darkseid teleported him before Superman was killed? Yep. Darkseid teleported him BEFORE Superman got hit by Imperiex's blast? On-panel narration says otherwise, and Darkseid's dialogue simply says he saved Superman before he got killed. Not that he saved Superman before he got hit. If he teleported Superman before the blast hit him, why is he unconscious?

Are you saying that the energy would have killed him if he was hit at all, but then Superman was hit? Are you really this stupid? Or are you assuming Imperiex fired two different blasts at Superman of two different forms of energy?

Originally posted by Delta1938
So basically, your entire argument that Superman was teleported before he got hit by anything is based on Darkseid's dialogue. Superman was shown hit by an energy blast on-panel, in MOS #116 we see narration state that Superman was defeated by Imperiex, he's unconscious when brought to Apokolips.

stop acting so butthurt.

[edit]
also, don't put words in my mouth. if you require clarification from me regarding some of my statements, just ask. no need to go full-troll here. 👇

Originally posted by JBL
CHRIST!!! Look at it like this butt-hurt, I can get knocked down by an approaching tornado wind, but if the FAR STRONGER wind reach me, IM DEAD!! UNLESS SOMEONE PULL ME INTO A UNDERGROUND BASEMENT BEFORE IT REACHES ME. 😮‍💨

I know this makes you feel better. It doesn't make you smarter.

Originally posted by Galan007
the 'breath' of imperiex's blast KO'd supes, and he was 'ported away by darkseid before the entropy destroyed him.

stop acting so butthurt.

What butthurt? You claimed Superman was never hit by any blast, said Darkseid's dialogue makes the art of the prior comic irrelevant, but the very same issue says Imperiex defeated Superman. So, are you still claiming Superman was never hit?

^ my 'claim' has always been that supes was not directly hit by entropy, otherwise he would have been destroyed(hence why darkseid had to save him.) entropy>superman.

i cannot possibly be any clearer.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ my 'claim' has always been that supes was not directly hit by entropy, otherwise he would have been destroyed(hence why darkseid had to save him.) entropy>superman.

i cannot possibly be any clearer.

Nope. Your exact words were Darkseid teleported Superman away before Imperiex's blast touched him.

Originally posted by Galan007
carver, the entropy/aegis armor could create entropy. of course entropy isn't going to negatively affect it. none

also, darkseid teleported superman away from the field BEFORE imperiex's blast touched him:
http://i.imgur.com/H02XY9g.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y6TcDv3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2AZZVOG.jpg

darkseid confirms in the following issue:
http://i.imgur.com/L6z2BsY.jpg
ie. entropy never touched him.

gotta read dem comics, carv. 👆

Now you're saying he wasn't hit directly by anything. I'm not putting words in your mouth. You however did say to me Superman didn't tank Imperiex's blast, when not only did I not say that, but pointed-out Superman was beaten by Imperiex. Unless you were aiming that at someone else?

in the very same post i said: "ie. entropy never touched him."

and i probably said that because superman WASN'T directly hit by entropy. had he been, he would have been destroyed just like doomsday was:
http://i.imgur.com/zoX7cGK.jpg

keep trying to put words in my mouth, though 👆. do you troll this much in every thread you partake in?

Originally posted by Delta1938
What a well thought-out, compelling and convincing argument that counters and disproves every point I made from the two relevant issues. I have seen the light. Superman was never hit.

In unrelated news, I have a new pet unicorn that hunts and eats saltwater crocodiles and sneezes rainbows of napalm.

Not my fault you fail to read what Darkseid clearly said.

If Superman had been hit with Entropy, that would have made in at least an abstrack being. I've yet to read a DC title were a mere Herald took on and survived Entropy by his sheer power.

Originally posted by Galan007
i probably said that because superman WASN'T directly hit by entropy. had he been, he would have been destroyed just like doomsday was:
http://i.imgur.com/zoX7cGK.jpg

keep trying to put words in my mouth, though 👆. do you troll this much in every thread you partake in?

I'm not trolling at all. Nor am I putting words in your mouth. Your exact statement was Darkseid teleported Superman before the blast "touched him." Your argument is different now. I've already read the comic, so I know what happened to Doomsday. Your initial claim was ignore the art because of Darkseid's words, but we see narration state Imperiex beat Superman. We know he's unconscious when brought to Apokolips. Perhaps Darkseid teleported Superman after the blast connected but before enough energy hit him?

But what was that "Superman never tanked Imperiex's blast" comment about? Did you think I said that for some reason, or were you replying to someone else?

Originally posted by SquallX
Not my fault you fail to read what Darkseid clearly said.

If Superman had been hit with Entropy, that would have made in at least an abstrack being. I've yet to read a DC title were a mere Herald took on and survived Entropy by his sheer power.

So, did you actually read everything after that?

^^

Originally posted by Galan007
in the very same post i said: [b]"ie. entropy never touched him."

and i probably said that because superman WASN'T directly hit by entropy. had he been, he would have been destroyed just like doomsday was:
http://i.imgur.com/zoX7cGK.jpg

keep trying to put words in my mouth, though 👆. do you troll this much in every thread you partake in? [/B]

*sighs* troll is troll.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I'm not trolling at all. Nor am I putting words in your mouth. Your exact statement was Darkseid teleported Superman before the blast "touched him." Your argument is different now. I've already read the comic, so I know what happened to Doomsday. Your initial claim was ignore the art because of Darkseid's words, but we see narration state Imperiex beat Superman. We know he's unconscious when brought to Apokolips. Perhaps Darkseid teleported Superman after the blast connected but before enough energy hit him?

But what was that "Superman never tanked Imperiex's blast" comment about? Did you think I said that for some reason, or were you replying to someone else?

So, did you actually read everything after that?

If youre talking about the rest of the comic, yes i have. That's when Steel new armor was introduced.

Now if youre talking if ive ever read any comics that alludes to a mere herald level being surviving Entropy, then no.

If you have, then shared it with the rest of the class.

Originally posted by Galan007
^^
your lack of reading comprehension is astounding. you can't even get my posts right--no surprise you can't get a comic right either. 👇

*sighs* troll is troll.

Let's see. Your initial post was claiming Superman was never hit by the blast. You told me to ignore the art showing him getting hit because of what Darkseid states. Yet the same issue says Superman was beat by Imperiex. You've changed your argument, accused me of trolling, said I'm "acting butthurt," and said my lack of reading comprehension is "astounding." A cheap shot. You accused me of putting words in your mouth. What words did I put in your mouth? You never answered if you misunderstood me saying Superman "tanked" or "whatever" Imperiex's blast, or you were directing that at others. Since I clearly never claimed he tanked it.

Your entire argument is based on you interpreting what Darkseid said as he took Superman away before being hit. Or at least that's what it was at first. Doomsday's skeleton was still there after the blast. Is it possible Superman, ya know, was teleported away before he was hit long enough to be killed? Yeah, he's not as durable as Doomsday, but that doesn't mean he can't survive a briefer exposure of something that killed Doomsday. It's not like I'm saying Superman survived an all-out blast from Imperiex Prime.

Originally posted by SquallX
If youre talking about the rest of the comic, yes i have. That's when Steel new armor was introduced.

Now if youre talking if ive ever read any comics that alludes to a mere herald level being surviving Entropy, then no.

If you have, then shared it with the rest of the class.

I'm talking about if you read the rest of the thread after my response to you.

As for a Top-Tie surviving Entropy, Superman did briefly survive exposure to it at the end of time in HUNTER/PREY. Yes, Waverider saved Superman(and Brainiac saved Doomsday), but it was clear both were exposed to it, even if briefly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
JBL had a good analogy with volcanoes.

DS' dialogue said he saved Superman before the killing BLOW. Unless the blast was pulsed, or Supes was hit multiple times, it would appear just being NEAR the blast was enough to knock him unconscious. Then DS swoops in.

A killing blow doesn't necessarily mean that it is the strongest blow, just the blow that finishes a person off.

Take a bat to a punk, how many hits will it take to kill the punk? Will the final killing blow be any stronger than the ones before?

It's obvious, superman was hit with something but not enough to kill him before he was teleported away. If superman had stayed in the direct path of the blast he would have died if not for getting teleported away .

Originally posted by Delta1938
Let's see. Your initial post was claiming Superman was never hit by the blast. You told me to ignore the art showing him getting hit because of what Darkseid states. Yet the same issue says Superman was beat by Imperiex. You've changed your argument, accused me of trolling, said I'm "acting butthurt," and said my lack of reading comprehension is "astounding." A cheap shot. You accused me of putting words in your mouth. What words did I put in your mouth? You never answered if you misunderstood me saying Superman "tanked" or "whatever" Imperiex's blast, or you were directing that at others. Since I clearly never claimed he tanked it.

Your entire argument is based on you interpreting what Darkseid said as he took Superman away before being hit. Or at least that's what it was at first. Doomsday's skeleton was still there after the blast. Is it possible Superman, ya know, was teleported away before he was hit long enough to be killed? Yeah, he's not as durable as Doomsday, but that doesn't mean he can't survive a briefer exposure of something that killed Doomsday. It's not like I'm saying Superman survived an all-out blast from Imperiex Prime.

i refuse to believe you are this stupid, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just have the 'troll-blinders' on because no one agrees with you. 👆

Originally posted by Delta1938
As for a Top-Tie surviving Entropy, Superman did briefly survive exposure to it at the end of time in HUNTER/PREY. Yes, Waverider saved Superman(and Brainiac saved Doomsday), but it was clear both were exposed to it, even if briefly.

however, the entropy itself hadn't yet reached the specific location they 'ported to until several seconds AFTER they got there. that not only explains why they weren't insta-destroyed, but also explains how/why brainiac was able to travel to that dimension and save dd BEFORE entropy destroyed him:
http://i.imgur.com/HRVi87r.jpg
...because entropy hadn't yet reached that location.

that also explains why dd appeared to be fine before the energy(entropy) 'struck' him:
http://i.imgur.com/UkGkfJQ.jpg

ie. neither superman nor waverider endured entropy before fleeing that dimension.