WWH vs 25 Things, 25 Colossus, 25 Luke Cages & 25 Sasquatchs

Started by -K-M-11 pages
Originally posted by carver9
I'm pretty sure standard Sasquash is in this thread. Stop hating on my boy Hulk.

There's 25 Sasquatch the odds are good that at least one or two or whatever will be overtaken by Tanaraq.

😖hifty:

Originally posted by -K-M-
There's 25 Sasquatch the odds are good that at least one or two or whatever will be overtaken by Tanaraq.

😖hifty:

How does that really compare to Wendigo amplified to be 1000 times his base level? That was the same Wendigo, that neither Sasquatch, or the Savage Hulk could defeat at base. Then you have to add Bi-Beast amplified 1000 times as well, and he ran through them as if they were weaklings. One or two Tanaraq's probably would not be enough. And aside from that, it goes outside of the OP. The Hulk in a comic facing this hoard would go World Breaker, but to adhere to the OP I can't just throw him in the mix, even though it would be highly likely that this would happen in a story. I mean in that era, the Hulk going World Breaker was well within his abilities.

Originally posted by Stoic
How does that really compare to Wendigo amplified to be 1000 times his base level? That was the same Wendigo, that neither Sasquatch, or the Savage Hulk could defeat at base. Then you have to add Bi-Beast amplified 1000 times as well, and he ran through them as if they were weaklings. One or two Tanaraq's probably would not be enough. And aside from that, it goes outside of the OP. The Hulk in a comic facing this hoard would go World Breaker, but to adhere to the OP I can't just throw him in the mix, even though it would be highly likely that this would happen in a story. I mean in that era, the Hulk going World Breaker was well within his abilities.

Not all Wendigo are created equal far from it so no it was not the same one. Different hosts have different variations in strength and abilities. Also if you think a classic Wendigo who was equal to Savage Hulk and was then multiplied by 1000 times you don't think he wouldn't crush the eastern seaboard with just by walking? If he truly was 1000x stronger he would be a World Breaker himself. It was hyperbole and nothing more.

For comparison the Great Beasts actually did better against the Choas King and his God Army then all other pantheons. They were also winning until Snowbird betrayed them. Now that's power.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Not all Wendigo are created equal far from it so no it was not the same one. Different hosts have different variations in strength and abilities. Also if you think a classic Wendigo who was equal to Savage Hulk and was then multiplied by 1000 times you don't think he wouldn't crush the eastern seaboard with just by walking? If he truly was 1000x stronger he would be a World Breaker himself. It was hyperbole and nothing more.

For comparison the Great Beasts actually did better against the Choas King and his God Army then all other pantheons. They were also winning until Snowbird betrayed them. Now that's power.


Its a comic. That's like saying "when Galactus hit KT with the power of a billion sun, why didn't Earth explode". Let's be real here. It was far away from being hyperbole.

Originally posted by carver9
Its a comic. That's like saying "when Galactus hit KT with the power of a billion sun, why didn't Earth explode". Let's be real here. It was far away from being hyperbole.

Lets be real what did Wendigo or Bi-Beast do to show they were 1000x stronger?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Not all Wendigo are created equal far from it so no it was not the same one. Different hosts have different variations in strength and abilities. Also if you think a classic Wendigo who was equal to Savage Hulk and was then multiplied by 1000 times you don't think he wouldn't crush the eastern seaboard with just by walking? If he truly was 1000x stronger he would be a World Breaker himself. It was hyperbole and nothing more.

For comparison the Great Beasts actually did better against the Choas King and his God Army then all other pantheons. They were also winning until Snowbird betrayed them. Now that's power.

That particular Wendigo was taken from the Hulk's mind, as was the Bi-Beast. It was the same one. You can't call things hype whenever you don't like what was stated and seen on panel. The Hulk simply did not allow them the chance to get apeshit, and finished them before it escalated to more collateral damage than was seen. Again it happened on panel, and to attempt to dismiss it as hype is something that I would call low balling the showing. A calm Hulk was able to withstand a hit from Hope, who was stated to have been able to generate a hit that a being worth over 113, Herc's could generate in one concentrated hit. Was that hype as well?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Lets be real what did Wendigo or Bi-Beast do to show they were 1000x stronger?

Them growing the height of a skyscraper is proof enough. What did you expect them to do in the little time they had?

Originally posted by Stoic
That particular Wendigo was taken from the Hulk's mind, as was the Bi-Beast. It was the same one.

No it wasn't, you do realize Hulk has fought multiple versions of Wendigo right? Some had telepathy, some could speak, some could teleport and one was the size of Wolverine

Originally posted by carver9
Them growing the height of a skyscraper is proof enough. What did you expect them to do in the little time they had?

ZOMG! Giant Man must be uber elite then. Faulty logic.

So like I said nothing, all you have is a hyperbole statement.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Lets be real what did Wendigo or Bi-Beast do to show they were 1000x stronger?

That's irrelevant KM, it was written on panel. It is a canon feat.

Originally posted by -K-M-
No it wasn't, you do realize Hulk has fought multiple versions of Wendigo right? Some had telepathy, some could speak, some could teleport and one was the size of Wolverine

And none of them that he fought from his past were the scrubs that they had become in the more recent showings of them. We still have Bi-Beast who Merged Hulk, and She Hulk had a tough time with. He was amplified 1000 time base. Was that a different Bi-Beast?

Originally posted by Stoic
That's irrelevant KM, it was written on panel. It is a canon feat.

Not irrelevant if he didn't specify what type of Wendigo he used his memory from (I honestly don't remember). If it did specifically that it was the same Wendigo that Hulk and Sasquatch then that proves my point. That version was equal to Sasquatch and Hulk so multiplying that version by 1000x stronger would make it a world breaker. It was hyberbole.

Originally posted by Stoic
And none of them that he fought from his past were the scrubs that they had become in the more recent showings of them. We still have Bi-Beast who Merged Hulk, and She Hulk had a tough time with. He was amplified 1000 time base. Was that a different Bi-Beast?

again Bi-beast was equal to Savage Hulk so multiplying him by 1000x would make him a world breaker. What did he do to even suggest he actually was at those levels?

If you don't feel Bi-beast or Wendigo amped by 1000x weren't world breakers, then I guess you don't think Savage Hulk amped 1000x would be either. Hmmmm....

Originally posted by -K-M-
ZOMG! Giant Man must be uber elite then. Faulty logic.

So like I said nothing, all you have is a hyperbole statement.

Giant man also get much stronger when he grows in height to the point that he can move and hold up skyscraper building. WTF.

Yep, nothing but hyperbole, just like here...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-06-20-13-40-09_zpsb7000e6b.png.html

Wolverine is amped with Hulks power and tells us that every ability that he have has been amplified but since he didn't do anything out of the norm that an average Wolverine isn't able to replicate, I guess we can call this hyperbole as well.

You're reaching my friend. I know you like Wendigo but Pak intentions was clear.

Originally posted by -K-M-
again Bi-beast was equal to Savage Hulk so multiplying him by 1000x would make him a world breaker. What did he do to even suggest he actually was at those levels?

Again, what did you expect him to do.

What did you expect this Wolverine to do for you to believe he was amped?

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-06-20-13-40-09_zpsb7000e6b.png.html

Originally posted by -K-M-
again Bi-beast was equal to Savage Hulk so multiplying him by 1000x would make him a world breaker. What did he do to even suggest he actually was at those levels?

He was dealt with before the collateral damage escalated to more than it was. This was on panel. What about Hope being measured to be above 113 Herc's in power, and the Hulk taking a hit to his internal organs by this being, while being in a relatively calm state? I also said that the Bi-Beast fought Merged Hulk, and She Hulk, and they were barely able to beat him. If another character other than the Hulk is measured, it's accepted, but with the Hulk it's placed under scrutiny, even though it was written on panel is wrong on several levels. It was written, and thus it was canon. It's not as if I'm making these numbers up. However you calling it hype is a made up statement on your part.

Originally posted by carver9
Giant man also get much stronger when he grows in height to the point that he can move and hold up skyscraper building. WTF.

Yep, nothing but hyperbole, just like here...

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-06-20-13-40-09_zpsb7000e6b.png.html

Wolverine is amped with Hulks power and tells us that every ability that he have has been amplified but since he didn't do anything out of the norm that an average Wolverine isn't able to replicate, I guess we can call this hyperbole as well.

You're reaching my friend. I know you like Wendigo but Pak intentions was clear.

Sure does, but to the levels your implying Wendigo was at? Haha not even close .

Ummmm...what? How does that scan prove it wasn't? So he got fuled by gamma energy became the Hulk basically. Not even the same thing here so that's a faulty comparison. Wolverine becoming Hulk is not the same as Wendigo growing tall.

right right clearly I'm reaching. A class 100 amped 1000x who did nothing to suggest he was at those levels other then hyberbole statement somehow is more logical? Lulz. Oh and how did this uber Wendigo get beat? Wasn't by Hulk punching him, it was being thrown at something. Shame his 1000X strength didn't translate to his durability eh?

I repeat.....If you don't feel Bi-beast or Wendigo amped by 1000x weren't world breakers, then I guess you don't think Savage Hulk amped 1000x would be either. Hmmmm....

Originally posted by carver9
Again, what did you expect him to do.

What did you expect this Wolverine to do for you to believe he was amped?

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Screenshot_2014-06-20-13-40-09_zpsb7000e6b.png.html

Do something to suggest he was at those levels as again as base Wendigo was equal to Savage Hulk a Wendigo that is amped x1000 would be a world breaker. Or do you feel Savage Hulk amped x1000 wouldn't be either?

Why are you posting that again? Wolverine became hulk and was fuled with gamma...Wendigo grew in height. ZOMG...EXACTLY THE SAME THING

Originally posted by Stoic
He was dealt with before the collateral damage escalated to more than it was. This was on panel. What about Hope being measured to be above 113 Herc's in power, and the Hulk taking a hit to his internal organs by this being, while being in a relatively calm state? I also said that the Bi-Beast fought Merged Hulk, and She Hulk, and they were barely able to beat him. If another character other than the Hulk is measured, it's accepted, but with the Hulk it's placed under scrutiny, even though it was written on panel is wrong on several levels. It was written, and thus it was canon. It's not as if I'm making these numbers up. However you calling it hype is a made up statement on your part.

Silly again as it was said Hercules himself was one of the people who could stop him during WWH. Did anyone even come close to portraying those levels? Nope. Hulk did have some amazing feats of his own

haha right right right Hulk EASILY beating a class 100 Bi-Beast and Wendigo amped 1000x (would make them world breakers) ....by.... throwing them at something. Silly me for calling shenanigans.

Because it is written does not mean it automatically is excepted. Hence, hyberbole and outlier showings. There are even rules for the board about that