Darth Bane DOE and Satele Shan vs. Reborn Revan and Darth Malak

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Darth Bane DOE and Satele Shan vs. Reborn Revan and Darth Malak

*Malak has his Star forge amp

Force, sabers, all out

Nah, but they do win.
Shan is the weak link here.

Team 1. Bane > Revan, Satele > Malak.

Revan can hold his own against Bane.
I can't say the same for Shan regarding Malak.

Erm...Bane and Shan are on the same team.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Revan can hold his own against Bane.
I can't say the same for Shan regarding Malak.

If by "hold his own" you mean "dies" then yes.

I can. She's got superior lightsaber and Force feats than him.

Unamped Bane has no feats that suggest he can defeat Revan, or at least not without high difficulty. Bane fought evenly with Zannah unamped, but Revan defeated Malak with a high amp. That is more impressive to me at least. Bane may be more skilled, but he's never demonstrated his "skill" with the exception against his apprentice and he lost that duel.

Revan has a chance.

The same Bane who got captured by mercenaries is not going to easily beat Revan, Neph.
All Shan has on Malak is tutaminis. I would say Malak is superior in all other aspects.
His performance against Revan is better then Shan's against Malgus'.

Not true he can change forms!

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The same Bane who got captured by mercenaries is not going to easily beat Revan, Neph.
All Shan has on Malak is tutaminis. I would say Malak is superior in all other aspects.
His performance against Revan is better then Shan's against Malgus'.

With his power being suppressed. Plus Cognus was helping and you know she has haxx foresight powers. And I didn't say it would be easy.

Satele can blitz Sith Warriors, shatter blast doors and crush super-powerful droids into balls. Her Force Bubble let her be used as a wrecking ball to destroy hex droids and she was able to telepathically control them through their biological components. Her Force powers are much more developed than his.

Only because he could regenerate and shit.

Originally posted by Nephthys
With his power being suppressed. Plus Cognus was helping and you know she has haxx foresight powers. And I didn't say it would be easy.

There were innumerable factors there. I actually had a post based on that, but I'ma wait a little while to post it.

How did she have "haxxed" foresight? She hadn't developed it fully at that moment, for instance she didn't even know who'd win the fight between Bane and Zannah. Bane got his ass kicked by those mercenaries in an ambush, if he was so strong he would've gotten out of it, instead he got beaten by an untrained force sensitive and a bunch of fodder.

Yet one more duel he lost, lol

Go away.

Originally posted by carthage
How did she have "haxxed" foresight? She hadn't developed it fully at that moment, for instance she didn't even know who'd win the fight between Bane and Zannah.

She may have lacked training, but her foresight was still far superior to almost every other force user out there.

Originally posted by carthage
Bane got his ass kicked by those mercenaries in an ambush, if he was so strong he would've gotten out of it, instead he got beaten by an untrained force sensitive and a bunch of fodder.

Yet one more duel he lost, lol


And Dooku got his ass kicked by drunken pirates, yet I never see you harping on him for that.

She may have lacked training, but her foresight was still far superior to almost every other force user out there.

She was physically weaker and far less skilled than Bane, yet he lost miserably to her and those mercenaries. How is she superior when she has few feats in any other regard?

And Dooku got his ass kicked by drunken pirates, yet I never see you harping on him for that.

He never fought them they took him aboard their ship, and surrounded him without any sort of engagement whatsoever. Bane on the other hand fought them and went down hilariously

Originally posted by carthage
She was physically weaker and far less skilled than Bane, yet he lost miserably to her and those mercenaries. How is she superior when she has few feats in any other regard?

I said her foresight was superior to almost every other user, I never made any claims about her martial ability.

Hell, the Huntress on her own would've been absolutely no match for an unarmed drugged Bane.

Originally posted by carthage
He never fought them they took him aboard their ship, and surrounded him without any sort of engagement whatsoever. Bane on the other hand fought them and went down hilariously

Nah there was an offscreen fight. Hondo pretty much confirms this later on in the episode.

Bane only lost because of deadly neurotoxin haxx.

I said her foresight was superior to almost every other user, I never made any claims about her martial ability.

Hell, the Huntress on her own would've been absolutely no match for an unarmed drugged Bane.

Her foresight was fragmentary at that point, it wasn't "superior" based on what? There is no comparison to be made to anyone else in Bane's area for Cognus to make that assumption. Also there is no way to test your last assumption, unamped Bane has never fought any individual in DOE apart from Zannah. The Huntress dodged multiple lunges and blows from him, because he was slow and weak.

Nah there was an offscreen fight. Hondo pretty much confirms this later on in the episode.

Suuuuree

Huntress also dodged his lightning, she was ****ing fast.

Yes, I am aware of Shan's feats. Though like Nomi's and Bastila's, they aren't totally combat directed. Keeping up with Revan in a "brutal" battle, then previously causing his Dark Lord himself to become "desperate" in combat is a superior combat and speed showing then really anything Shan has demonstrated.

Having lightning capable of killing a Jedi instantly is superior then anything she performed with the droids, as does having a Force Stun mastery with a 3-0 record. Ultimately who's to say that with his powers amplified even greater by the Star Forge, he cannot replicate his feet on Satele herself? And must I redirect you to him throwing a Mandalorian hundreds of feet?
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Ultimately, if you like it or not, Mr. Karpyshyn displays Malak and Revan as half of a full. They are closer in power then you believe.

"For me, Malak was always the 'brawn' to Revan's 'brain' - he was renowned for his combat abilities, and I always felt that he was even better than Revan with a lightsaber. I also felt that he wasn't as strong at using the Force in other ways as Revan was."
―Drew Karpyshyn (Author)