Originally posted by carthage
He held back in fighting them. Like he did when he first fought Maul. When he got serious Maul thought he was fighting scores of lightsabers. None of the fighters in question are that different in terms of dueling ability then Maul.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Vitiate is not DE Sidious level, not even close. Even ROTS Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate.No, Revan is not by far Dooku's superior.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and yours be wrong.
ROTS being more powerful than Vitiate is hilarious. Sidious was so powerful is probably why he ran from Yoda and needed Anakin to save him from Windu.
Dooku would lose to Nyriss who Revan destroyed.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and yours be wrong. Sidious was so powerful is probably why he ran from Yoda and needed Anakin to save him from Windu.
Um, what? Sidious didn't need Anakin to save him against Windu. He was manipulating Anakin by pushing Windu just enough to get him to decide to kill Sidious, instead of arrest him. Remember, that was Windu's original plan. Seeing this would convince Anakin that Sidious was right, and the Jedi were trying to take over the Republic he swore to defend. Plus, Anakin would lose his only opportunity to save Padme from death, as he saw it.
Also, Yoda was the one who ran in that fight, not Sidious. If you're referring to that scene in his office, I believe he was just trying to get to a better "battleground" or to a spot where his guards could come in and tip the scales in his favor (he was Sith after all. Noone said he had to fight fair..). Before that, he told Yoda he'd been waiting a long time for that fight.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and yours be wrong.ROTS being more powerful than Vitiate is hilarious. Sidious was so powerful is probably why he ran from Yoda and needed Anakin to save him from Windu.
Dooku would lose to Nyriss who Revan destroyed.
Vitiate was so powerful he got put on his ass twice by Revan. Sidious force choked Dooku from a distance of lightyears, and easily subdued both Maul and Savage at the same time with TK alone. I don't see how Vitiate struggling to kill Revan while enhanced by a dark side nexus compares.
Attempting to run from Yoda means nothing, considering they stalemated in their fight, with Yoda being the one who ended up running. Regardless, Yoda is more powerful than Vitiate. Also, Palpatine pretending to be weak in order to manipulate Anakin doesn't mean he actually needed his help.
More like, Vitiate was so powerful that even just from drawing off his power an Imperial Guardsman almost totally negated Revan's TK. I know you don't think Revan's TK is any more impressive than Dooku's, but even at that level you have to admit that's impressive.
Vitiate was put on his ass when he was caught off-guard and by his own reflected attack.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Didn't Palpatine legitimately lose to Mace, though?
Yes, he was outdueled and Windu was going to take him into custody ("You're under arrest my Lord."😉, but when Palpatine started shooting lightning at him, Mace changed his mind ("He's too dangerous to be kept alive."😉. Seeing this reinforced Anakin's opinion that the Jedi were evil and, in his mind, it would cost him Padme.
Originally posted by Nephthys
More like, Vitiate was so powerful that even just from drawing off his power an Imperial Guardsman almost totally negated Revan's TK. I know you don't think Revan's TK is any more impressive than Dooku's, but even at that level you have to admit that's impressive.Vitiate was put on his ass when he was caught off-guard and by his own reflected attack.
Thought you were ignoring me?
It's impressive; however, do you think Dooku would be unsuccessful in TKing an Imperial Guard, given Dooku's TK feats? Especially if Dooku is on the same nexus, which would enhance him as well?
Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
Um, what? Sidious didn't need Anakin to save him against Windu. He was manipulating Anakin by pushing Windu just enough to get him to decide to kill Sidious, instead of arrest him. Remember, that was Windu's original plan. Seeing this would convince Anakin that Sidious was right, and the Jedi were trying to take over the Republic he swore to defend. Plus, Anakin would lose his only opportunity to save Padme from death, as he saw it.Also, Yoda was the one who ran in that fight, not Sidious. If you're referring to that scene in his office, I believe he was just trying to get to a better "battleground" or to a spot where his guards could come in and tip the scales in his favor (he was Sith after all. Noone said he had to fight fair..). Before that, he told Yoda he'd been waiting a long time for that fight.
He ran from Yoda before the fight started. You are assumption is unfounded. He knew he could lose to Yoda. Looking at Sidious background, like killing his master while he was sleeping goes with his style of fighting those who he is threaten by.