Master Yoda vs Jedi Strike Team

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Master Yoda vs Jedi Strike Team

Yoda vs Jedi Strike Team

Master Yoda: Revenge of the Sith
- - - vs - - -
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Revenge of the Sith
Plo Koon: Revenge of the Sith
Mace Windu: Revenge of the Sith

Battleground: Dune Sea, Tatooine
Morales: Both teams fight to death
Position: 5 meter difference in teams

This one is tough. Team I guess? Ehh, I'm split on this one.

Team, definitely.

Team.

Team

I'm going with the team myea

I think Yoda takes it.

He force rapes Koon and Kenobi if he wants, and proceeds to win a close figth with Windu (Vaapad here won't be effective)

Yoda.

Yoda.

Originally posted by Stigma
He force rapes Koon and Kenobi if he wants, and proceeds to win a close figth with Windu (Vaapad here won't be effective)

Yoda cannot Force rape like Dooku or Sidious...

He can, he just tends not to. He was able to casually pull Ventress' saber away from her.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He can, he just tends not to. He was able to casually pull Ventress' saber away from her.

Dooku and Sidious can use things like Force choke and lightning, which are better options to dispose of opponent quickly. Yoda at best can throw some Force blasts, which are not as effective and likely will be blocked. Jedi are not as skilled in offensive use of the Force, which makes chances of either opponent to be caught off-guard even less likely. Add to it lack of opportunity to use Force attacks, when 3 opponents attack simultaneously and there is no chance left for Yoda to Force rape anyone whatsoever.

Team easily.

Originally posted by Arhael
Dooku and Sidious can use things like Force choke and lightning, which are better options to dispose of opponent quickly. Yoda at best can throw some Force blasts, which are not as effective and likely will be blocked.

Neither Kenobi nor Koon are blocking force attacks from freaking Yoda. Per OP combatants are fighting to death, thus Yoda force-rapes them. Then, Mace’s fate is decided..
Originally posted by Arhael
Jedi are not as skilled in offensive use of the Force, which makes chances of either opponent to be caught off-guard even less likely. Add to it lack of opportunity to use Force attacks, when 3 opponents attack simultaneously and there is no chance left for Yoda to Force rape anyone whatsoever.

Oh my…
Yoda paralyzed Ventress with a gesture. What stops him from doing the same to Kenobi or Koon?

Yoda is in Sidious speed category, the same Sidious that casually blitzed Kolar, Tiin and Fisto. He can blitz Koon and Kenobi. Similar to how Maul once Sidious got serious couldn’t even tracks Sidious’s blade.

Moreover, Yoda already has a feat showing him being far too fast and too skilled to be even touched by 3 Jedi masters in a duel. One of them being Fisto as far as I recall, the others on Fisto level.. This was a demonstration in the Jedi Temple, and at the time Yoda was unarmed. (I forgot the name of the book).

To recap, Yoda's force power is far beyond that of Kenobi or Koon. Yoda also eclipses them in speed and saber skills. There is nothing they can do to him before he blitzes/force owns them.
Then he confronts Windu in a longer fight, but given that Windu's biggest asset, Vaapad, is not in its full might here, Mace dies.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Team easily dies.

You forgot to put a verb there 😛

Originally posted by Stigma
Neither Kenobi nor Koon are blocking force attacks from freaking Yoda. Per OP combatants are fighting to death, thus Yoda force-rapes them. Then, Mace’s fate is decided..

Oh my…
Yoda paralyzed Ventress with a gesture. What stops him from doing the same to Kenobi or Koon?
Yoda is in Sidious speed category, the same Sidious that casually blitzed Kolar, Tiin and Fisto. He can blitz Koon and Kenobi. Similar to how Maul once Sidious got serious couldn’t even tracks Sidious’s blade.
Moreover, Yoda already has a feat showing him being far too fast and too skilled to be even touched by 3 Jedi masters in a duel. One of them being Fisto as far as I recall, the others on Fisto level.. This was a demonstration in the Jedi Temple, and at the time Yoda was unarmed. (I forgot the name of the book).

Besides, this is getting strange. (not necessarily adfressing you, Arhael)
Somehow Sidious can best Dooku, Maul and Savage but Yoda cannot best an arguably equal team like Windu, Kenobi and Koon? Give me a break. With OP stating they fight for death the outcome is clear, Yoda wins.

To recap, Yoda's force power is far beyond that of Kenobi or Koon. Yoda also eclipses them in speed and saber skills. There is nothing they can do to him before he blitzes/force owns them.
Then he confronts Windu in a longer fight, but given that Windu's biggest asset, Vaapad, is not in its full might here, Mace dies.

You forgot the verb there 😛


Proof they can't block his attacks.

Proof Yoda can speed blitz either of them. In particular Kenobi fought Anakin with equal speed, who has accolade of been the fastest.

'This is Anakin Skywalker:
The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.

He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.'

Originally posted by NEPHTHYS66
LOL @ Obi-Wan being as fast as Anakin. LOL @ Anakin being faster than Yoda. LOL @ Yoda not being able to win through the Force only.

What the heck are you? Some sort of merger between Neph and Sid66? Eww

Originally posted by Stigma
Similar to how Maul once Sidious got serious couldn’t even tracks Sidious’s blade.

Never happened. Actual TCW Episode overrides the novel. In the actual canon Maul and Sidious fought at the same speed in that final fight.

Originally posted by Arhael
Proof they can't block his attacks.

Because Yoda's force feats >>> Kenobi’s or Koon’s.

Because Yoda put Sidious on his ass, the most powerful Sith in galactic history, while Kenobi was put on his ass by Maul, Sidious’s inferior apprentice.

Because, as already mentioned (have you missed it? 😉 ), Yoda paralyzed Ventures with a simple gesture while Kenobi struggled with her on multiple occasions.

Originally posted by Arhael
Proof Yoda can speed blitz either of them. In particular Kenobi fought Anakin with equal speed, who has accolade of been the fastest.

Yoda fought equally with Sidious. Yoda’s speed = Sidious’s speed

I also gave you an example from the demonstration in the Jedi Temple. If anyone can provide the book name, page number I’ll appreciate it greatly.

Kenobi did not fight Anakin, he fought Vader, an emotionally broken, unstable opponent who seconds before tried to kill his own wife. He was far from Jedi clarity he had. Kenobi also had the advantage of knowing all his moves inside out and of course, the high ground 😛

GG though.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Never happened. Actual TCW Episode overrides the novel. In the actual canon Maul and Sidious fought at the same speed in that final fight.

Cool, still it was anger!amped!Maul, so probably a one time thing.

Besides Sidiosu never planned to kill Maul, he more or less toyed with him. With Yoda he went all-out.

Originally posted by Stigma
Because Yoda put Sidious on his ass, the most powerful Sith in galactic history, while Kenobi was put on his ass by Maul, Sidious’s inferior apprentice.

Any character can be Force pushed, when caught off guard or block, when ready. Kenobi could block even Anakin's TK, when ready, despite Anakin being the most powerful Force user known.

Because, as already mentioned (have you missed it? 😉 ), Yoda paralyzed Ventures with a simple gesture while Kenobi struggled with her on multiple occasions.

In one of the first tcw episodes. She improved a lot since to the point that Sidious felt threatened and demanded Dooku to dispose of her, hence this feat no longer relevant.

Yoda fought equally with Sidious. Yoda’s speed = Sidious’s speed

Kenobi did not fight Anakin, he fought Vader, an emotionally broken, unstable opponent who seconds before tried to kill his own wife. He was far from Jedi clarity he had. Kenobi also had the advantage of knowing all his moves inside out and of course, the high ground 😛


Indeed, Kenobi did not fight Anakin who is given level 8 combat ability by Nick Gillard. He fought Vader, who was given level 9, which is on level with Windu, Yoda and Sidious.

"On Attack of the Clones, I had to give them levels," he (Nick Gillard) said, "Sidious is a level nine [out of ten]. On this film, Obi is eight - he's moved up - Anakin is a nine; Mace is a nine, Yoda is a nine. They're up there with Sidious"

Page 133, The Making of ROTS.

This article farther confirms that Anakin on mustafar had level 9 combat prowess, which source above confirms to be on level of Windu, Yoda and Sidious:
http://www.cinemareview.com/production.asp?prodid=2965

Like it or not, Yoda is not blitzing Kenobi. Your unproven assumptions about Anakin's mindset are debunked by the sources above.

I wouldn't even say Obi-Wan was doing that well during that duel either. A man can only take so many kicks to the face.