Master Yoda vs Jedi Strike Team

Started by Arhael2 pages

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I wouldn't even say Obi-Wan was doing that well during that duel either. A man can only take so many kicks to the face.

Which makes sense. Kenobi is not as capable as Anakin, Yoda, Windu or Sidious. The best he could do is survive, which, also, happened to be the main strength of his style. Point is he is fast enough. Claiming that he will be blitzed by anyone is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Stigma
Cool, still it was anger!amped!Maul, so probably a one time thing.

I never said otherwise.

Originally posted by Stigma
You forgot to put a verb there 😛

"Dies" is a verb.

Originally posted by DarthSith500
Yoda.

Hey, Sith.

I think the team has more than a valid chance, but it ultimately depends on how useful Plo Koon is to the effort.


Like it or not, Yoda is not blitzing Kenobi. Your unproven assumptions about Anakin's mindset are debunked by the sources above. [/B]

Yeah, the blitzing thing has been blown out of proportion after the RotS novel's ridiculous descriptions.

Obi-Wan won't be blitzed by Yoda or Sidious for that matter, though if singled out he *would* be overwhelmed, just as Maul was.

With Mace and Plo for support, though, he should fare fine.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, the blitzing thing has been blown out of proportion after the RotS novel's ridiculous descriptions.

Obi-Wan won't be blitzed by Yoda or Sidious for that matter, though if singled out he *would* be overwhelmed, just as Maul was.

With Mace and Plo for support, though, he should fare fine.


Exactly.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Obi-Wan won't be blitzed by Yoda or Sidious for that matter

Nah, I think Sidious would blitz Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
"Dies" is a verb.

I know... I put it there.

Look at DP's comment I quoted.

Spoiler:
I should have put "fixed" for the less perceptive people 😉

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Obi-Wan won't be blitzed by Yoda or Sidious for that matter

Nah, I think Yoda would blitz Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by Arhael
Any character can be Force pushed, when caught off guard or block, when ready. Kenobi could block even Anakin's TK, when ready, despite Anakin being the most powerful Force user known.

I’m sorry, are you still confusing clear headed Anakin with emo Vader? Strage given that you acknowledge the difference in the latter part of your post. Kenobi blocked emo Vader’s TK.

And I disagree, Anakin has the best force reserves to be sure, but at this point he's not Yoda's or Sidious's or perhaps even Dooku's level when it comes to TK mastery. and they still eclipse him feat-wise.

Also, Yoda is faster than Kenobi so… wait for it…. he can catch him of guard no problem./fact

Originally posted by Arhael
In one of the first tcw episodes. She improved a lot since to the point that Sidious felt threatened and demanded Dooku to dispose of her, hence this feat no longer relevant.

lol wut?

She was at the level of Jedi master, and got easily pwned and humiliated.

Originally posted by Arhael
Indeed, Kenobi did not fight Anakin who is given level 8 combat ability by Nick Gillard. He fought Vader, who was given level 9, which is on level with Windu, Yoda and Sidious.
"On Attack of the Clones, I had to give them levels," he (Nick Gillard) said, "Sidious is a level nine [out of ten]. On this film, Obi is eight - he's moved up - Anakin is a nine; Mace is a nine, Yoda is a nine. They're up there with Sidious"
Page 133, The Making of ROTS.
This article farther confirms that Anakin on mustafar had level 9 combat prowess, which source above confirms to be on level of Windu, Yoda and Sidious:
http://www.cinemareview.com/production.asp?prodid=2965

Cool story, bro.

Shall I go down your path and claim it to be irrelevant?

Going by feats and movie showings Yoda and Sidious are a tier above Anakin/Kenobi in sabers alone… In the force it’s several tiers above.

Originally posted by Arhael
Like it or not, Yoda is not blitzing Kenobi. Your unproven assumptions about Anakin's mindset are debunked by the sources above.

He is.

Also:
Anakin's mindset by the end of RotS is for everyone to be seen in the movie. He is an emotional mess and thus hampered in his clarity. If you think otherwise, there is no hope for you.

Also:
I see you did not contest any of the following:

1. Yoda’s force feats >>> Kenobi’s or Koon’s
2. Yoda is a far better swordsman
3. Yoda did render Ventress helpless with a simple gesture, what stops him from doing the same to someone who is several tiers below him in force power?
4. Given that Yoda is also quicker, he can catch Kenobi off guard just like Dooku did in RotS.
5. Therefore, Yoda wins.

They're not really much more skilled than him at all, if we're looking to RotS, they're simply more powerful.

When Mace's power was (PIS-worthily) equaled out with Palpatine's, it was a complete stalemate.

Originally posted by Stigma
I’m sorry, are you still confusing clear headed Anakin with emo Vader? Strage given that you acknowledge the difference in the latter part of your post. Kenobi blocked emo Vader’s TK.

And I disagree, Anakin has the best force reserves to be sure, but at this point he's not Yoda's or Sidious's or perhaps even Dooku's level when it comes to TK mastery. and they still eclipse him feat-wise.

Also, Yoda is faster than Kenobi so… wait for it…. he can catch him of guard no problem./fact


I am sorry but I don't care about your interpretation. I gave you sources, where his level of combat during fight with Kenobi is confirmed to be on level with big three, deal with it.

Yes, Yoda might catch Kenobi off-guard with Force attack. It's a possibility, probability. Very thin one, when Yoda has Windu and Kun on his back.

lol wut?

She was at the level of Jedi master, and got easily pwned and humiliated.


And she still improved a lot since, so irrelevant. Confirmed several seasons later by Sidious.

Cool story, bro.

Shall I go down your path and claim it to be irrelevant?


If you not going to accept clear evidence from valid sources and counter with your biased interpretations, then what the point arguing?

Going by feats and movie showings Yoda and Sidious are a tier above Anakin/Kenobi in sabers alone… In the force it’s several tiers above.

I provided evidence with combat prowess as of RotS. Anakin is on level with Yoda, deal with it.

He is.

Also:
Anakin's mindset by the end of RotS is for everyone to be seen in the movie. He is an emotional mess and thus hampered in his clarity. If you think otherwise, there is no hope for you.

Also:
I see you did not contest any of the following:

1. Yoda’s force feats >>> Kenobi’s or Koon’s
2. Yoda is a far better swordsman
3. Yoda did render Ventress helpless with a simple gesture, what stops him from doing the same to someone who is several tiers below him in force power?
4. Given that Yoda is also quicker, he can catch Kenobi off guard just like Dooku did in RotS.
5. Therefore, Yoda wins.


Don't care about your impressions. Yoda is not far better swordsman, only 1 level above, which is not enough to blitz. Not especially, when it is 3 against 1.

Originally posted by DarthSith500
I'm pretty sure several sources claim Yoda as the most skilled Jedi of his time.

Yoda is also more skilled than Palpatine, for that matter. Regardless, my point was that if there is a difference in skill it's not significant.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah, I think Sidious would blitz Obi-Wan.

If not it would be in a few blows maximum.

I see him lasting as long as Maul did. About thirty seconds.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I see him lasting as long as Maul did. About thirty seconds.

Enraged!Maul didn't last quite that long, and I doubt Kenobi would either.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Enraged!Maul didn't last quite that long, and I doubt Kenobi would either.

I counted. Enraged Maul lasted pretty much exactly thirty seconds. While he was enraged, I think the more defensive and long lasting nature of Kenobi's Soresu would close that gap.

24 seconds, unless you're still counting when he was being slammed against the floor repeatedly.