Darth Bane vs Enemy Strike Team

Started by Emperordmb3 pages

Originally posted by carthage
No he wasn't, he wasn't pressing her she held her own and wtfpwned him with tendrils from a nexus. He wasn't strong enough to overpower her.

He was forcing her to give ground and then he beat the shit out of her. How is that not holding an edge? He essentially won the saber portion of their fight.

Even when Zannah whipped out her trump card Tendrils that can disintegrate anything they touch and are essentially unblockable, Bane was still putting up a very good fight and almost killed her.

Originally posted by carthage
Obvious hyperbole

It's indicative of great power though.

Originally posted by carthage
Lol @ being the true darkside champion.

a true champion of the dark side. Don't put words in my mouth. Given that he was confirmed as the Sith'ari, this statement actually makes a ****-ton of sense, as do his other accolades.

Originally posted by carthage
His speed feat is inferior to Vader and Malgus's, he deflected rain not multiple blaster volleys,

I can garuntee you that there were far more raindrops Bane had to block every second then there were blasterbolts.

In any case, to put that feat into context. In POD Bane struck at ten strikes per second, and appeared to be invisible to a room full of force sensitives, yet in ROT he considered the rainstorm feat he achieved in DOE to be impossible, despite also using TK.

And before you start ranting about "Bane being on a nexus" for his POD speed feats, he was also on a nexus when he considered the rainstorm feat impossible. So Bane in DOE achieved a speed feat that seemed impossible to one who could move invisibly fast to the perceptions of other force users and strike ten times per second.

Originally posted by carthage
and lightning can be absorbed by a saber.

I was using that more as an indicator of raw power. It's nice to note though that Bane can easily block his opponent's lightsaber blades with his lightning though.

Obi wan did as well big deal

Originally posted by Emperordmb
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He was forcing her to give ground and then he beat the shit out of her. How is that not holding an edge? He essentially won the saber portion of their fight.[/qupte]

Irrelevant to the point that he fought evenly with her and ultimately lost the fight in its entirety. If he was so strong he would've overwhelmed her in sabers, but her defense held and she lolstomped him with tendrils

[quote]Even when Zannah whipped out her trump card Tendrils that can disintegrate anything they touch and are essentially unblockable, Bane was still putting up a very good fight and almost killed her

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Lol no he got desperate, floundered around minus one arm, and sucked badily enough to fail to wholly transfer his consciousness into her. He went out miserably

[quote]It's indicative of great power though.

Feats>> hyperbolic quotes

a true champion of the dark side. Don't put words in my mouth. Given that he was confirmed as the Sith'ari, this statement actually makes a ****-ton of sense, as do his other accolades.

So what? His feats are shit compared to other powerful Sith. He has no dueling feats off nexus, and he got shitcanned by his inferior apprentice. Sans his lightning he really isn't good.

I can garuntee you that there were far more raindrops Bane had to block every second then there were blasterbolts.

Again he didn't block every single one, he did evasive manuevers as well to avoid them. Its not a superior feat at all to deflecting multiple volleys from different angles, blocking tens of volleys from small armies, and or engulfing an opponents vision in the color of their saber

In any case, to put that feat into context. In POD Bane struck at ten strikes per second, and appeared to be invisible to a room full of force sensitives, yet in ROT he considered the rainstorm feat he achieved in DOE to be impossible, despite also using TK.

Who cares? His 10 strikes per second was a nexus feat, its not representative of his actual striking ability in DOE. He was slow enough for Zannah to gain distance from and kill him with tendrils. Lol

And before you start ranting about "Bane being on a nexus" for his POD speed feats, he was also on a nexus when he considered the rainstorm feat impossible. So Bane in DOE achieved a speed feat that seemed impossible to one who could move invisibly fast to the perceptions of other force users and strike ten times per second.

He was slower as of DOE then he was at any point in the decades prior. I could care less what he "considered" impossible, its an inferior feat to other Sith. But again what does that have to do with him fighting two more skilled individuals?

I was using that more as an indicator of raw power. It's nice to note though that Bane can easily block his opponent's lightsaber blades with his lightning though.

Not seeing him being able to do that against Raskta's Jar kai sabers, Kas'ims saber staff, and Githany's whip. He's dead.

you see I avoid threads like these due to to many words

Words make my head hurt

I don't like words, there course, rough, and irritating, and they get everywhere.

They make me sick

Are you serial in silk?

Originally posted by carthage
Lol no he got desperate, floundered around minus one arm, and sucked badily enough to fail to wholly transfer his consciousness into her. He went out miserably

He beat the shit out of her in the lightsaber duel, and almost killed her even when she whipped out the tendrils. Hell, just the fact that he was capable of evoking the ritual of essence transfer after losing his arm to a tendril is very impressive.

Originally posted by carthage
Again he didn't block every single one, he did evasive manuevers as well to avoid them. Its not a superior feat at all to deflecting multiple volleys from different angles, blocking tens of volleys from small armies, and or engulfing an opponents vision in the color of their saber

He blocked the vast majority of them. And what conclusive proof do you have of these "superior feats" and their superiority? Since you seem to be adamant on using them to make Bane's feats look bad.

Originally posted by carthage
Who cares? His 10 strikes per second was a nexus feat, its not representative of his actual striking ability in DOE.

On a nexus, Bane considered the raindrop feat impossible even while using TK in conjunction with his saber abilities, yet in DOE he achieves it off nexus. Ergo, his raindrop feat is more impressive than striking at ten times per second and moving invisibly fast to other force sensitives.

Originally posted by carthage
He was slow enough for Zannah to gain distance from and kill him with tendrils.

He stopped following her because she was trying to draw him into a trap.

Originally posted by carthage
He was slower as of DOE then he was at any point in the decades prior.

All that quote says is that he was very slightly slower than his speed peak, which for all we know could've been a few years before DOE.

Originally posted by carthage
I could care less what he "considered" impossible, its an inferior feat to other Sith.

Bane considering it impossible proves that it was well beyond the scope of his own abilities, even though moving invisibly fast to other force users and striking at ten times per second was within the scope of his abilities. Given the context and supplementary information backing up the rainstorm feat, it's gonna take more than just your word to say that it's an inferior feat to other Sith.

Originally posted by carthage
But again what does that have to do with him fighting two more skilled individuals?

Bane's skill improved quite significantly between ROT and DOE.
Even in ROT he was capable of knocking Lsu on her ass with a deceptive unpredictable maneuver, something he practically gears his style for in DOE.

Originally posted by carthage
Not seeing him being able to do that against Raskta's Jar kai sabers, Kas'ims saber staff, and Githany's whip. He's dead.

Why would he not be able to do that? He successfully did that against Zannah's saberstaff while drugged.

Strike team wins, bane can't handle all of them at the same time. To powerfull

He beat the shit out of her in the lightsaber duel, and almost killed her even when she whipped out the tendrils. Hell, just the fact that he was capable of evoking the ritual of essence transfer after losing his arm to a tendril is very impressive.

He fought evenly with her, never broke her defense to earn a victory, and lost. Nice try though. He failed at essence transfer because his dumbass underestimated her will. She was a weaker opponent and he was defeated.

He blocked the vast majority of them. And what conclusive proof do you have of these "superior feats" and their superiority? Since you seem to be adamant on using them to make Bane's feats look bad.

They're more impressive because bolts are faster than rain drops lol, and they're deflecting these infinitely faster bolts at multiple angles from many more shooters

Vader repels multiple bolts from tower shooters

Malgus, nested deeply in the Force, perceived the dozens of bolts and their trajectory with perfect clarity. Without breaking stride he whipped his blade left, right, angled it ten degrees, and turned three bolts back on the soldiers who’d fired them, killing all three.

Malgus deflects scores of bolts and never breaks stride. Whereas, all Bane did was move his saber fast enough to deflect rain drops. Again he did evasive manuevers to avoid the rest. The feats speak for themselves, your calculations are non-cannon and irrelevant. Deflecting scores of incredibly fast bolts is more intensive than rain drops

On a nexus, Bane considered the raindrop feat impossible even while using TK in conjunction with his saber abilities, yet in DOE he achieves it off nexus. Ergo, his raindrop feat is more impressive than striking at ten times per second and moving invisibly fast to other force sensitives.

I don't really care to be honest. He only moved faster to force sensitives on a nexus as well/amped as well. His combat speed in DOE was slower than when he was in Orbalisks.

All that quote says is that he was very slightly slower than his speed peak, which for all we know could've been a few years before DOE.

He has no combat speed in DOE to suggest he can handle three fighters of comparable speed attacking him with three very different weapons.

Bane considering it impossible proves that it was well beyond the scope of his own abilities, even though moving invisibly fast to other force users and striking at ten times per second was within the scope of his abilities. Given the context and supplementary information backing up the rainstorm feat, it's gonna take more than just your word to say that it's an inferior feat to other Sith.

All he did was deflect rain? Slow moving rain at the same speed that Malgus or Qui Gon would've done to form their saber to do the same exacting thing lol. I provided superior feats where two force sensitives blocked faster moving bolts at different arcs and angles,there is nothing to suggest Bane could do the same.

Bane's skill improved quite significantly between ROT and DOE.
Even in ROT he was capable of knocking Lsu on her ass with a deceptive unpredictable maneuver, somethin

Prove his skill increased. He had no duels during the subsequent years after his amped "victory" on Tython. And he was slower, weaker, etc. He was also amped when he knocked Lsu down, also that doesn't make him skilled. It just means he knocked her down while amped. lol

Why are those "elite" 501st clones getting slaughtered by random miltia

They were trained by Bane, that's probably why they died

Originally posted by carthage
They were trained by Bane, that's probably why they died
they were trained by BARTH BANE HAHHA

Barf Bane, hehe

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Bane was winning their fight before she whipped out the Tendrils, and please... who all do you see being capable of dealing with those tendrils?

Anyone that can move faster than rain drops.

Even my grandma

Your grandma trains with a lightsaber in a courtyard and dodges raindrops?

Originally posted by carthage
He fought evenly with her, never broke her defense to earn a victory, and lost. Nice try though. He failed at essence transfer because his dumbass underestimated her will. She was a weaker opponent and he was defeated.

Are you ****ing kidding me? He had her in a retreat for the entire saber portion of their fight and managed to seriously injure her. Using essence transfer, which was his only option at the point doesn't make him a dumbass.

Originally posted by carthage
They're more impressive because bolts are faster than rain drops lol, and they're deflecting these infinitely faster bolts at multiple angles from many more shooters

Vader repels multiple bolts from tower shooters


LOL There were only 13 shooters, and only three of those shots were successfully aimed at Vader.

Originally posted by carthage
Malgus deflects scores of bolts and never breaks stride.

LOL Malgus defended against three shooters casually. Bane defended against half a dozen shooters casually at the beginning of ROT. You aren't exactly proving Malgus's superiority here.

Originally posted by carthage
The feats speak for themselves, your calculations are non-cannon and irrelevant.

They are not non-canon calculations when everything I am saying is stated in the text.

Hell by that token I could dismiss every line of logic someone uses to determine a versus match by saying that it's non-canon and irrelevant.

Originally posted by carthage
Deflecting scores of incredibly fast bolts is more intensive than rain drops.

Vader and Malgus were deflecting fire from three shooters LOL. The same Bane who casually deflected fire from six shooters considered the rainstorm feat impossible.

Originally posted by carthage
I don't really care to be honest. He only moved faster to force sensitives on a nexus as well/amped as well.

And Bane was on a nexus when he considered the rainstorm feat impossibly beyond the scope of his abilities so that argument falls flat.

Originally posted by carthage
His combat speed in DOE was slower than when he was in Orbalisks.

Prove it.

Originally posted by carthage
He has no combat speed in DOE to suggest he can handle three fighters of comparable speed attacking him with three very different weapons.

Githany is hardly Bane's peer in speed, and neither Githany or Lsu could stand before his force powers.

Originally posted by carthage
All he did was deflect rain? Slow moving rain at the same speed that Malgus or Qui Gon would've done to form their saber to do the same exacting thing lol. I provided superior feats where two force sensitives blocked faster moving bolts at different arcs and angles,there is nothing to suggest Bane could do the same.

Except the fact that he casually achieves a feat that is twice as good as the two you provided me around the same time he considers the rainstorm feat impossible. So far you have completely and utterly failed to prove the superiority of those feats.

Originally posted by carthage
Prove his skill increased. He had no duels during the subsequent years after his amped "victory" on Tython. And he was slower, weaker, etc. He was also amped when he knocked Lsu down, also that doesn't make him skilled. It just means he knocked her down while amped. lol

Lsu was amped as well when that happened, and Bane's invulnerability had nothing to do with that maneuver. Bane's amp was also being partially negated by battle meditation.

Being able to outmaneuver a BM invigorated Echani weapons master is very damn impressive.

Are you ****ing kidding me? He had her in a retreat for the entire saber portion of their fight and managed to seriously injure her. Using essence transfer, which was his only option at the point doesn't make him a dumbass/quote]

Irrelevant to the fact he couldn't overwhelm her with his strength, wasn't fast enough to close the distance from when she prepped and gained power to use tendrils, and ultimately lose the duel like a ***** 👆

[quote]LOL Malgus defended against three shooters casually. Bane defended against half a dozen shooters casually at the beginning of ROT. You aren't exactly proving Malgus's superiority here.

He was amped and Malgus has superior feats across the board than Bane in all other areas.

They are not non-canon calculations when everything I am saying is stated in the text.

Hell by that token I could dismiss every line of logic someone uses to determine a versus match by saying that it's non-canon and irrelevant.

Everything stated in text doesn't make rain drops any faster than blaster bolts. Try again.

Githany is hardly Bane's peer in speed, and neither Githany or Lsu could stand before his force powers.

He has no unamped force feats to suggest he can defeat any of them or kill them with his power. His lightning can be absorbed by a saber, his TK only killed non force sensitives in DOE, and his feats unamped are pathetic.

Except the fact that he casually achieves a feat that is twice as good as the two you provided me around the same time he considers the rainstorm feat impossible. So far you have completely and utterly failed to prove the superiority of those feats.

Glad to admit you think deflecting slower moving rain drops is more impressive than blaster bolts. His feat is inferior by virtue of that. Even Qui Gon Jin moved his saber fast enough to form a shield similar to what Bane did. You aren't proving anything using non cannon calculations, and bringing up a feat that even PT Jedi have duplicated lol

Lsu was amped as well when that happened, and Bane's invulnerability had nothing to do with that maneuver. Bane's amp was also being partially negated by battle meditation.

Who cares? Bane was still invulnerable to most of her attacks, and he was amped as well. He wasn't "negated" at all. Raskta was the only one effectively fighting, everyone else was useless. Even then she still stabbed him six times before he reached her, and her reflexes in an unamped duel as an Echani would be better than his as he's slower and weaker.

Being able to outmaneuver a BM invigorated Echani weapons master is very damn impressive.

Not when your invulnerable, amped, and your other opponents are worthless
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