Darth Bane vs Enemy Strike Team

Originally posted by carthage
He was amped and Malgus has superior feats across the board than Bane in all other areas.

Originally posted by carthage
Everything stated in text doesn't make rain drops any faster than blaster bolts. Try again.

Originally posted by carthage
He has no unamped force feats to suggest he can defeat any of them or kill them with his power. His lightning can be absorbed by a saber, his TK only killed non force sensitives in DOE, and his feats unamped are pathetic.

Originally posted by carthage
Glad to admit you think deflecting slower moving rain drops is more impressive than blaster bolts. His feat is inferior by virtue of that. Even Qui Gon Jin moved his saber fast enough to form a shield similar to what Bane did. You aren't proving anything using non cannon calculations, and bringing up a feat that even PT Jedi have duplicated lol

Your inability to grasp something so simple concerns me greatly.

Originally posted by carthage
Who cares? Bane was still invulnerable to most of her attacks, and he was amped as well. He wasn't "negated" at all. Raskta was the only one effectively fighting, everyone else was useless. Even then she still stabbed him six times before he reached her, and her reflexes in an unamped duel as an Echani would be better than his as he's slower and weaker.

What the **** do you mean he was amped?

Orbalisks, his feats on Lehon, his feats on Korriban, etc.

You would have a point here if either Vader or Malgus were defending themselves from nearly as many blasterbolts as Bane was raindrops.

And your feat would be impressive if rain drops weren't slower than blaster bolts. Malgus moved his blade as fast as Bane did, and other people have done the same exact thing sans the drain drops

The text pretty much confirms that Bane's rainstorm feat>>>>Vader and Malgus's feats of deflecting fire from three shooters.

Your inability to grasp something so simple concerns me greatly.

Confirmation bias 👆. I never admitted Malgus's feat was slower, I said Jinn and PT Jedi essentially moved their blades as fast as Bane did. You have not refuted and or even bother to acknowledge the speed of blaster bolts is faster than rain, the fact Bane didn't block every drop- he outmanuevered them as well, and the fact Bane has never blocked blaster bolts without being boosted by either orbalisks or a nexus.

Bane's invulnerability had nothing to do with that maneuver. Battle meditation is confirmed to negate enemies btw. Her stabbing him six times doesn't mean he couldn't block her blows, he just didn't because he had no need to.

The amp is the only reason Bane could manuever, he isn't as skilled as Raskta and he was heavily protected as well as amped by the orbalisks fueling his rage. Raskta's amp was miniscule in comparison. Nothing proves he could dodge her in combat on neutral ground, as he's older, slower, and weaker and his reflexes are inferior to an Echani's as a weak middle-Aged human male. He might be faster than her if she was made of rain drops though 👆

Originally posted by carthage
Orbalisks, his feats on Lehon, his feats on Korriban, etc.

Originally posted by carthage
And your feat would be impressive if rain drops weren't slower than blaster bolts. Malgus moved his blade as fast as Bane did, and other people have done the same exact thing sans the drain drops. Confirmation bias 👆. I never admitted Malgus's feat was slower, I said Jinn and PT Jedi essentially moved their blades as fast as Bane did. You have not refuted and or even bother to acknowledge the speed of blaster bolts is faster than rain, the fact Bane didn't block every drop- he outmanuevered them as well, and the fact Bane has never blocked blaster bolts without being boosted by either orbalisks or a nexus.

Again your inability to grasp this simple line of thought is astonishing to say the least.

Originally posted by carthage
The amp is the only reason Bane could manuever, he isn't as skilled as Raskta and he was heavily protected as well as amped by the orbalisks fueling his rage. Raskta's amp was miniscule in comparison. Nothing proves he could dodge her in combat on neutral ground, as he's older, slower, and weaker and his reflexes are inferior to an Echani's as a weak middle-Aged human male. He might be faster than her if she was made of rain drops though 👆

Team wins.

^ I second that.

Bane could kill each of them 1v1 (with Lsu being an extremely close fight at least) but all of them at once, Bane dies.

No, Bane takes this. Without Battle Meditation these guys cannot stand up to him.

Yeah, I'm not seeing how Bane vs Lsu alone is a close fight.

Lol, there should definitely be reasonable doubt that Bane can defeat both Rastka and Kas'im simultaneously while they have a third and capable fighter backing them up here.

Trio. Kas'im and Raskta are hard enough, both combined will disarm him and go to town in melee. Gith'll be only a minor aid but another body doesn't hurt.

Lol, no. Without BM they lack the speed, strength and ability to mess with Bane close up. He was pushing the strike team back without it in RoT. Even in PoD Bane was superior to Kas'im, by DoE he outclasses him like he outclasses Raskta in RoT. Not even mentioning that only Kas'im has a chance the block his Force powers. Raskta gets punted into a wall, Githani gets lightninged and then Bane obliterates Kas'im.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol, no. Without BM they lack the speed, strength and ability to mess with Bane close up. He was pushing the strike team back without it in RoT. Even in PoD Bane was superior to Kas'im, by DoE he outclasses him like he outclasses Raskta in RoT. Not even mentioning that only Kas'im has a chance the block his Force powers. Raskta gets punted into a wall, Githani gets lightninged and then Bane obliterates Kas'im.

Bane has no speed feats to suggest he can outmaneuver or kill them. Bane's showings of TK are also much weaker then when he was on a nexus or with orbalisks. He only broke boxes and hurt the organs of soldiers when he was running out of the prisons for his best showing in DOE lol. There is no reason to believe he'd hurt Raskta, Kas'im or Githany with his TK. Also lightning can be absorbed by a lightsaber, the only person who might die from it is Githany. Bane isn't killing anyone with his force abilities

The only person you could argue as having capable enough force defenses would be Kas'im 😐

Edit: I mean the only person you could argue with reason and logic and legitimacy.

His TK is arguably not strong enough to penetrate his shields.

So nope.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The only person you could argue as having capable enough force defenses would be Kas'im 😐

Edit: I mean the only person you could argue with reason and logic and legitimacy.

Couldn't Kas'im protect the others Farfalla-style though?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Couldn't Kas'im protect the others Farfalla-style though?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm not sure if a Sith would actually do that.

He would if faced with an opponent he cannot defeat by himself.

Bane could probably deflect rain to drown Kas'im.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Couldn't Kas'im protect the others Farfalla-style though?

Possibly, but Farfalla only did that when amped by BM. Kas'im's reflexes might not be enough to prevent injury or death should Bane Force Push someone. That is if his Force Push doesn't injure or kill them upon impact without the BM making Raskta's + Githany's defense stronger. Plus I wonder if their teamwork would be up to snuff to do that. Especially without the Battle Meditation.

I also doubt Kas'im himself could resist Bane's power. He only dealt with a small portion of a Wave before, and Bane is much stronger than he was in PoD.

Lots of mights, what if's, and personal theoretical nonsense and not really anything based on feats. All of Bane's best telekinetic showings were ironically in POD and some in ROT, there is no real reason to believe he got any stronger or more skilled. Maybe physically stronger but he hadn't fought a duel the decade after his Tython duel, and he admitted he was slower, weaker, and had turned altogether near useless.