World War Thor

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Originally posted by carver9
He was holding back which makes his fts even more interesting. You can hold back and still have high ends.

You can't say it was his high end if he was holding back because he was holding back if he wasn't holding back then that would be his high end feats unless your comparing it to other characters.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Again, you're missing the point.

If Banner is unaware, so is Thor.

If there is prep against Banner, there is prep against Thor.

No one, most importantly, ME, set up the premise that you've provided above.

What you appear to want as evidenced by your responses is for Thor to be a Blonde Hulk and use brute strength in every encounter.

If I'm wrong, please correct me.

I never said anything about him using mainly brute force. Hell, I haven't even brought up how he would approach the fight. I have been arguing for pages on if he could withstand the adamantium bullet assault. The fight attack was a back stab on Hulk that he wasn't even aware of. If Thor gets the luxury of knowing that the attackers are coming then that gives him a chance to strike first which Hulk didn't have that opportunity. My argument isn't that he would use lightning or whatever. Why wouldn't he? We've been arguing for pages on if he could withstand the adamantium attack and the start off of that attack was a backstabb.

My other argument is, whatever situation Hulk was put it (sneak attack and prep used against him) Thor would be put in that same situation which means, Hulk would have to counter an attack for an attack that was dished out on him the same way it was done to Hulk (again, sneak attack and prepped scenario). Now how he goes from there, it's all up to the debater.

Originally posted by carver9
My other argument is, whatever situation Hulk was put it (sneak attack and prep used against him) Thor would be put in that same situation which means, Hulk would have to counter an attack for an attack that was dished out on him the same way it was done to Hulk (again, sneak attack and prepped scenario). Now how he goes from there, it's all up to the debater.

So basically we can all dismiss your last post on the prior page as you are really arguing with yourself.

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Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
So basically we can all dismiss your last post on the prior page as you are really arguing with yourself.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you mean him blocking bullets, then more. But that doesn't in itself mean what you are suggesting.
It absolutely does. Have you seen a bulletproof character blocking bullets?

He was pierced once. They bounced off other times.
Not really. He has been threatened numerous times. Jonathanos has catalogued them.

I'm not going to pretend Thor wasn't vulnerable (It never hurt him on panel, but to argue he wasn't would make me a Superman fan) but the idea that he's vulnerable to bullets has been progressively dying off since the early 70's when he withstood artillery shells etc. if not earlier.
You're a thorbag, that's worse than any fate already. Yeah and it happened several times in 2000's. In fact he was shot by that bullet in 90's.

If the damage is piercing based, why shouldn't it count?
Because it doesn't?
Why does Thor resisting Wolverine's claws or even worse, taking attacks from the Disir or the Destroyer not sufficient evidence.
Wolverine's claws? Wolverine cut off ****ing King Thor's hand off. And gutted Thor.
And? Also, the most durable? Why?
Just looking at his scenes. Who else would show Thor taking blasts that cleave mjolnir?

Maybe, maybe not. Thor could shrug them off, or he could be hurt and tank it. Neither scenario, is impossible, or even unlikely if we use a high end version of Thor. Or at this point, a regular version of Thor in his own comic.

He would be definitely piereced. His piercing durability is ****ing horrible these days. Even under Aaron Minotaur ran him through with his horn. If those bullets go through his head, he's dead.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I never doubted their canonicity but you can't seem to recognize Thor's growth in the department of bullet invulnerability.
Hah, he's still seen as not-bulletproof by most writers.

Modern comics are far more bloody but to say his piercing durability is shit when some of his greatest feats have been accumulated in modern decades is dumb.
Like? Getting his arm cut off by Wolverine? Ran through by anything and everything?
Even invulnerable characters like Superman/Gladiator are hurt far easier nowadays.
Who the **** cares about Gladiator? When was superman pierced or got his arm cut off? Don't tell me you're still using Brainiac's ship impaling Superman, because that'd be utterly dumb.

When did a normal spear run him through?
Valkyrie ran him through with a spear IIRC.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It absolutely does. Have you seen a bulletproof character blocking bullets?
What do you expect? If a flying brick had a do everything magical hammer, I'm certain writers will have him or her block everything from bullets to energy blasts a majority of the time. Come on it's comics.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hah, he's still seen as not-bulletproof by most writers.
More like some.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Valkyrie ran him through with a spear IIRC.

Err... That was a high end Valkyrie. And it's not like Asgardians wield regular mortal made weapons. You know, with such things as uru and magic that almost always are standard for these beings...

Thor can tank nukes and survive in the freakin sun while drinking an afternoon ale fer cryin out loud. For the purpose of this thread, It's more likely he will not get pierced by bullets that are not strong enough or do not have enough force behind them. In regards to adamantium bullets, he'll probably get pierced, but it's not a definite stopper for him. With a "World War Thor" mentality, he will wade through it like a boss. To think otherwise would be ignorant given what he has endured when he is in a determined mindset.

If anything it won't even come to this situation. He has a myriad options at his disposal that Hulk can only have wet dreams of. To be honest it's not even fair. World War Thor?
Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Seriously.... Bahahahahahaha.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It absolutely does. Have you seen a bulletproof character blocking bullets?

Not really. He has been threatened numerous times. Jonathanos has catalogued them.

You're a thorbag, that's worse than any fate already. Yeah and it happened several times in 2000's. In fact he was shot by that bullet in 90's.

Then prove it. 🙂 We already know that blocking an attack doesn't in itself mean it's fatal as we've seen characters dodging/blocking attacks they later on survive many times in comics.

Stop lying. He's only been pierced by a bullet once and he's had bullets bounce off of him at least 5 times now.

You're implying he's been shot through multiple times when that is completely untrue. Which is why it was stupid as at that point, Thor was bulletproof as indicated by previous evidence.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because it doesn't? Wolverine's claws? Wolverine cut off ****ing King Thor's hand off. And gutted Thor. Just looking at his scenes. Who else would show Thor taking blasts that cleave mjolnir?

I say it does.

This is why everyone thinks you're such a f*ck. Wolverine never cut off King Thor's arm and you have vehemently argued that the Reigning is non-canon in the past so why use that instead of the fight where he turns his claws specifically because of his durability to piercing?

How about his fight against the Celestials under Mark, the God Bomb under Aaron, withstanding Perrikus' axe under Jurgens etc.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He would be definitely piereced. His piercing durability is ****ing horrible these days. Even under Aaron Minotaur ran him through with his horn. If those bullets go through his head, he's dead.

Hah, he's still seen as not-bulletproof by most writers.

Like? Getting his arm cut off by Wolverine? Ran through by anything and everything? Who the **** cares about Gladiator? When was superman pierced or got his arm cut off? Don't tell me you're still using Brainiac's ship impaling Superman, because that'd be utterly dumb.

Valkyrie ran him through with a spear IIRC.

According to you. Getting run through by a "Hulk level" being does not constitute as poor piercing durability. Not necessarily. He survived Phoenix Emma's barrage for example.

Now, I know you have to have some idea of his better feats and yet here you are pretending that they don't exist. There's a respect thread if you want to educate yourself.

You've argued vehemently that Fraction's trilogy is non-canon. Yet here you are referencing it when it suits you. 😐

Also, being run through by an immortal incarnation of Valkyrie does not constitute as "normal".

Edit: Run through by anything and everything?

Well, now I know you aren't interested in anything resembling an intellectual conversation when you've already taken such an incredibly false stance.

Even if you wanted to argue that Wolverine claws can pierce Thor, you'd need to prove those same claws can be tanked through physical durability. We've seen them pierce through Gladiator already.

Not that Thor would need to stand there and engage in a scene by scene replay of WWH, so moot point.