Originally posted by KingD19
Bane's not on Logan's level. In Wolverine he's flipping people through the air with claw swipes, jumping dozens of feet, and blocking hits from a 12 foot tall robot.Even in Origins he has a few superhuman feats putting him far above Bane.
Thats what im saying. Its even a stretch to put him on Wolverines level. I was being generous to those that think movie bane had way above regular strongman human feats.
Originally posted by Werewolf582
I showedthat Caesar will have a difficult time hurting bane. Its like I'm not allowed to change feats because you don't want to.Flase, the average male chimp is 150 pounds. Chimps are also only 2x the average human in strength. Normal chimps are not we go by feats not what they look like.
Yes. Which is why I'm debating Bane.
Oh you're perfectly allowed to mention any feats you want. Just don't go bitchin about it when people get confused why you're posting durability feats while you're trying to prove strength feats.
150 lbs is the max a chimp can weigh, it's definitely not the average. Average is still somewhere around the 100 lbs mark.
Yes we go by feats, and normal chimps can't break chains like the movie apes did. You'll also need more than 2x human strength to break manacles or jump like those apes jumped.
Originally posted by NemeBro
If you think Bane isn't over twice as strong as the average person you're an idiot.
likewise if you think bane is superhuman after all the examples i posted.
You are easily impressed or you just want bane to be something he is not so badly.
What exactly are your examples you are clinging on? 2 scenes? the slow lift and the concrete punch?
you think he is stronger than movie wolverine?
Originally posted by InhumanWolverine is a shit ton stronger than the apes.
likewise if you think bane is superhuman after all the examples i posted.
You are easily impressed or you just want bane to be something he is not so badly.
What exactly are your examples you are clinging on? 2 scenes? the slow lift and the concrete punch?you think he is stronger than movie wolverine?
Originally posted by Inhuman
likewise if you think bane is superhuman after all the examples i posted.
You are easily impressed or you just want bane to be something he is not so badly.
What exactly are your examples you are clinging on? 2 scenes? the slow lift and the concrete punch?you think he is stronger than movie wolverine?
Show me a human lifting a two hundred pound dumbell with one outstretched arm, lol.
here is a woman sustaining the weight of a man with one arm.
here is a guy lifting a dumbell that weighs 274 pounds. more than what Bane supposedly lifted
im sure there are more impressive feats by humans. I dont feel like searching in order to convince someone who already made up their mind no matter what the evidence.
Even if you further dispute that what bane did was greater than what i posted. He is still in the same ball park as these strong humans. Lets say he is peak human. The strongest human on earth. Fine so be it. but not super human or 2x times human like some are saying.
Another thing i will mention again: People are forgetting that the Nolan batman movies were directed by NOLAN. if you know his opinion on superhero movies you would know damn well he dislikes them and did his best to make his movies "non super". His batman trilogy was as realistic as he could get away with because of his stance on super hero movies.
That alone should tell you that Bane didn't have super strength because he existed in a nolan movie.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Show me a human lifting a two hundred pound dumbell with one outstretched arm, lol.
You've made this point multiple times in this thread.
I'd like to point out that no human alive could pull this feat off because it would break our ****ing arms.
Our bodies are literally not strong enough to sustain forces like those: even "giants" of men.
This is why power lifters and very strong bodybuilders snap their ****ing biceps trying to hit peak-human levels of feats (such as deadlifts and barbell curls). Our bones, tendons, and ligaments simply cannot handle that much stress.
Just ask Branch Warren who snapped his ****ing bicep doing bicep curls with 275. 😐
I would note that Branch Warren is known in the professional bodybuilding community as one of the strongest and hardest working athletes. If he wanted to, he could retire from bodybuilding and do strongman competitions with minimal practice (but I think he's torn up his body a bit too much, at this point in his life, to make that switch).
So, yeah, while people are trying to downplay Bane in support of Caesar, real world physics are kind of taking a giant shit on some of the points in this thread.
The door-ripping off feat is, imo, Caesar's best strength feat. IIRC, that is significantly better than any other feat he has so it could be chocked up to just shitty writing because the writers/director didn't really know how much force that would require. Regardless, it's a feat and it counts. I don't know how much force it requires but it is a ridiculous amount: definitely superhuman.
Also, I would note that Bane didn't just break the marble-concrete pillar when punching it. He pulverized the material. That is a much much stronger feat of strength than simply breaking it. It takes far more force to pulverize those materials than it does to just simply over come a stress barrier (basically, just causing it to break/crack).
I've gotta give this to Bane. Comparable strength and durability but Bane is the far-far superior H2H combatant. Brains go to Caesar but not by much.
Edit - This is a good thread. I like seeing people use their brains in these types of discussions. Also, it's nice to see Inhuman in these parts of the board. 👆
Lol.
You think it's all about weight?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ironhistory8.htm
Here is Mark Henry trying and struggling to lift the Thomas Inch Dumbell, a dumbell known to be notoriously hard to lift in strongman circles. IIRC Mark Henry is the only confirmed man to have lifted it (Thomas Inch himself is rumored to have cheated).
It weighs 172 pounds. Why then is it so hard to lift?
Because of how unusually thick the grip is: 2 3/8 inches in diameter.
Far below the diameter of a human neck, or presumably whatever Bruce grabbed to lift Liam Neeson in Batman Begins (I can't remember how he did it to be honest).
The "2x" number is about the average human, who can't even lift curl a hundred pound dumbell. Much less Liam Neeson's entire bodyweight over a cliff, like the weaker Batman managed.
Bane's strength may or may not be greater than IRL peak human but he's near the top, and certainly stronger than the two in the videos you posted. 👆