Originally posted by celeyhyga17Thorbags are worse than both combined.
Again. Your butthurt is showing. I don't know what's worse, The House of El brigade or zealots from the Church of the Gammafather.
I never said he can't bust a planet. Based on his extensive history of feats, it's perfectly plausible. What I won't accept is someone twisting what's on panel or making something out more than it was meant to be to suit their needs."World shattered" was stated six times on panel. No twisting in that, you're the one who is twisting it to your needs.
Implied nothing. Again you're still hung up on that even though you were told the premise of why that was even brought up.Oh really? Then why bring it up?
My comparison was definitely within reason. You are creating a rebuttal that have no legs to stand on. And as always you start making no sense when desperate.Superman destroyed planets six times in three comics as stated on panel. Cry more.
Originally posted by JBL
Do you know what STORED ENERGY IS????? Thats why superman said ANY... ANY.... The stored energy IF he lost any, would be stored in his cell as they do. He was back at 100% But he wanted to STORE ANY ENERGY HE MAY HAVE LOST. But i see you also have superman on your page so its a waste of time anyway. Enjoy the House of EL. 😮💨 PS, He did not say restore, he said STORE UP. JESUS.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Historically dangerous to Kryptonians
http://i.imgur.com/l1iQkFA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pYeXg9U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UKmr0x0.jpg
😖hifty:
Originally posted by PhilosophíaI feel like you're just trying to showcase what a red herring is to the entire forum. I've never felt less like trying than what I do now in any argument I can remember. I can't believe I even looked through comics for this debate. I can't believe I accidentally hit the limit replying to this.
Yes, with said trans-light bullrushing speed and strength and energy engulfing and alongside Stardust.The problem is, you tried to simplify this into Bill being able to do this => Thor being able to do this =>(?!) Thor is in the same category of strength with Superman bench pressing Earth.
You can't go from a combination of (speed + strength + energy) of Beta Ray Bill + Stardust => (speed + strength + energy) of Thor => only strength that's somehow on benching Earth level, because whatever.
That's dumb.
Have you lost IQ points while I've been away? Is exposure to thorbags radiation mutating your brain into carvercide?
And no, I only brought up Bill as additional proof that Thor can destroy planets... besides Thor destroying planets.
And I'm the one who brought up planet destroying. Now you're saying my statement doesn't apply because it doesn't follow your guidelines... makes sense.
And yet you continue to argue about it like you have a case. I don't care if he used speed. You outright stated twice Thor can't destroy planets in two separate posts. I brought up additional proof of Thor being able to, then you just acted like it didn't count because it didn't follow "Phildo's Guide to Anything That Isn't Superman".
Let's do a play by play of this event:
"Thor can't destroy Earth"
*Thor and Beta destroying a planet*
"Well he destroyed a planet... but he didn't do it in this way!"
Which is completely not the point. Beta was brought up to backup Thor destroying a planet. Nothing more nothing less. Though I like how you're selecting pieces of my post while ignoring the vast majority of it just so you can repeat yourself like you have a point. How about you quote this:
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Considering it is completely within your own power to fly at mach 1, then there's no reason to make a distinction between strength and speed.Though I don't get the separation either considering at no point in time in this thread, or anything I said would limit Thor to have no flight at this time. Seems you're making up strict Phildo guidelines and expecting everyone else to follow them.
But yes, speak of lost IQ points. You're trying to argue something I don't care about and have freely admitted it was a combination. Before the strict Phildo guide came out, the feat was only used to show Thor could achieve said destroying. If I would have known we had to follow your strict guidelines I wouldn't have brought it up. Quite simple really. But yes, keep repeating everything you can to try and diminish the feat while nothing contradictory is said.
Though maybe all you could read was what you quoted. Wonder how many words are beyond you in this post.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaDoesn't make a difference at this point. This would only be your third piece of proof you ignored.
I can't tell if you're actually taking that statement literally or you're just messing with me.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaHere is Thor shitting his pants according to Phildo when all he is doing is jumping through the air readying a hammer shot:
celestial bodies celestial body
Good following along ability though. I'm saying right before he screamed he released a torrent of lightning. Was he screaming in the two panels he pushed a moon back together, or was he screaming for the immediate reforming of the moon, it isn't clear. Though I find it cute it's pretty clear to you considering you're doing everything in your crimson fishy ways to divert attention away from Thor shattering worlds and are outright ignoring it.
However, addressing the actual scream "point". He did the same Goddamned thing flying through the air. OMG, he must have been trying his hardest jumping through the air. How does Thor even walk?
And a scream when you immediately push a moon together doesn't imply a limit. Especially when he does so before Gorr even reaches him. Because that's what you're using to lowball Thor here, something he did in what seconds?
This is the sequence:
Thor shatters worlds and a nearby moon while fighting Gorr.
Thor disengages Gorr to fly to said moon.
Thor pushes the moon together, and heals it in three panels.
Thor flies off while being worshipped.
Gorr arrives speeding by and cuts of Thor.
But Thor yelled out the same way he did when he jumped through the air like a ****ing cat, so naturally he hit his limit. That's your argument apparently. Naturally you would tell me Superman benching the planet's weight and then only hitting with mountain destroying punches WAS OMG THAT WAS NO WHERE NEAR HIS LIMIT OMG HATERS, OMG I'M GOING TO SPAM THE OWNAGE THREAD FOR LIKE 20 PAGES DEFENDING THIS!
Which is what I find cute about this little red herring here. You're basically inviting people to downplay the planet benching feat in favor of mountain destroying punches. Be my guest though, I don't give a shit.
Allow me to talk about my day though considering we're talking as if yell grunting means something. I was grunting swinging a four pound mini sledgehammer with one hand today. Then I was swinging it ten times as hard without a sound, cracking the handle in the process. Apparently the grunts meant I was trying harder according to Phildo guidelines. It didn't feel like it, but if we're to adhere to everything Phildo, I guess I must have been. Whodathunkit?
In case you're still playing dumb, yelling/grunting/screaming doesn't establish a limit... especially when they do it quickly quickly quickly. Maybe if he sat there and struggled for a while you'd have a point, but... he didn't.
That is assuming he was doing it purely due to pushing, and not due also to the eminent lightning strike. But I'm playing along to the beat of your stupid.
Though lol at you trying to squirm out of admitting you're wrong by using "celestial bodies". It's worlds. It says worlds right there. And also lol at you saying Thor destroying a planet is arguably his most impressive feat ever. I guess we know why you have such a huge problem with said feat. Though by you saying arguably his most impressive, then it seems you're conceding he did actually destroy said planet.
And what does that mean? It means that some stupid retarded statement like this:
Originally posted by Philosophía
Thor can't do either. He can't destroy the Earth and most definitely can't lift it.That's just masturbation talk.
Is wrong. And it also defeats the entire purpose of your issues with Beta since according to Phildo Rule of Dumb, planet destroying only counts if you're standing still.
But since you're red herring... ning already, let's try one out here for the sake of nostalgia.
Here Hyperion struggles to stop a planet bigger than Earth at half of lightspeed immediately.
Originally posted by carver9
The planet was traveling at 500,000mph, by the way
You'll note his struggle naturally because it's you, but you'll also note he did it immediately. Just like Thor did. Now, does that mean that was the absolute limit? Of course not. That would be retarded to think. It just means he put a lot of effort into his push, not necessarily the stopping. In fact, considering as you well know, Hyperion can hold off two universes, it must not have been his full limit. 🙂
But onto your whole red herring here. You have now tried to divert attention completely away from you stating Thor can't destroy the Earth to changing it to Thor can't move the Earth because he yelled when he pushed a moon together in what seconds?
Well, let's answer that with another feat. World Engine time!
Thor fights against Yggdrasil himself and the engine when he turns the World Engine:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor494-19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor494-20.jpg
What that meant at the time.
The tree grows through all things, controls all nature and supernature:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor491-22.jpg
A tree that runs everything:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor492-19.jpg
Contains Earth inside it:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor493-08.jpg
That on it's own should prove enough that Thor moved against at least planetary forces, but what does the most current canon say about the World Tree?
Odin tears loose the tenth realm from the roots (there's 10 realms within Yggdrasil):
http://postimg.org/image/7q7zn062p/
And the tenth realm alone was the size of a universe:
http://postimg.org/image/6cgcrp6td/
As well as the other nine realms;
http://postimg.org/image/4zqplypzl/
And just for shits and giggles, here's Thor and Hercules generating enough pressure to throw Earth out of orbit. Arm wrestling.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/th_Thor_400-54.jpg
Also, you ignored my comparison between Thor and Gladiator that would prove by feats Thor is the superior striker, and by feats, Thor should be just as capable as destroying a planet. But I guess you don't even know what you want to respond to.
Which leads us to Thor is [/I]more[/] than capable of benching a planet. Thor can destroy planets. Beta can destroy planets.
We can get a mod ruling on this if you want though. 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, I did. You obviously don't know what that comic meant, or why Thor went powerless just a issue later, did you? Odin's sword Ravenseye was lodged in world tree and that's why Thor was depowered and asgardians were exiled from asgard. All Thor did was turn back a mechanical device that was about to destroy earth and reversed time in asgard and earth. Its as unquantifiable as it comes. Superman has those feats like you wouldn't believe.Lulz @ Thor being as strong as he needs.
I know exactly how powerful it was. It was powerful enough to destroy earth and asgard. And Thor was unable to stop it untill he extracted Ravenseye from world tree. Go read the ****ing comic.
For some one who read the comic you some have left out the part that the engine was powered by yggdrasil .
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I feel like you're just trying to showcase what a red herring is to the entire forum. I've never felt less like trying than what I do now in any argument I can remember. I can't believe I even looked through comics for this debate. I can't believe I accidentally hit the limit replying to this.And no, I only brought up Bill as additional proof that Thor can destroy planets... besides Thor destroying planets.
And I'm the one who brought up planet destroying. Now you're saying my statement doesn't apply because it doesn't follow your guidelines... makes sense.
And yet you continue to argue about it like you have a case. I don't care if he used speed. You outright stated twice Thor can't destroy planets in two separate posts. I brought up additional proof of Thor being able to, then you just acted like it didn't count because it didn't follow "Phildo's Guide to Anything That Isn't Superman".
Let's do a play by play of this event:
"Thor can't destroy Earth"
*Thor and Beta destroying a planet*
"Well he destroyed a planet... but he didn't do it in this way!"Which is completely not the point. Beta was brought up to backup Thor destroying a planet. Nothing more nothing less. Though I like how you're selecting pieces of my post while ignoring the vast majority of it just so you can repeat yourself like you have a point. How about you quote this:
But yes, speak of lost IQ points. You're trying to argue something I don't care about and have freely admitted it was a combination. Before the strict Phildo guide came out, the feat was only used to show Thor could achieve said destroying. If I would have known we had to follow your strict guidelines I wouldn't have brought it up. Quite simple really. But yes, keep repeating everything you can to try and diminish the feat while nothing contradictory is said.
Though maybe all you could read was what you quoted. Wonder how many words are beyond you in this post.
Doesn't make a difference at this point. This would only be your third piece of proof you ignored.
Here is Thor shitting his pants according to Phildo when all he is doing is jumping through the air readying a hammer shot:
Good following along ability though. I'm saying right before he screamed he released a torrent of lightning. Was he screaming in the two panels he pushed a moon back together, or was he screaming for the immediate reforming of the moon, it isn't clear. Though I find it cute it's pretty clear to you considering you're doing everything in your crimson fishy ways to divert attention away from Thor shattering worlds and are outright ignoring it.
However, addressing the actual scream "point". He did the same Goddamned thing flying through the air. OMG, he must have been trying his hardest jumping through the air. How does Thor even walk?
push a moon together doesn't imply a limit. Especially when he does so before Gorr even reaches him. Because that's what you're using to lowball Thor here, something he did in what seconds?
And a scream when you [b]immediately
This is the sequence:Thor shatters worlds and a nearby moon while fighting Gorr.
Thor disengages Gorr to fly to said moon.
Thor pushes the moon together, and heals it in three panels.
Thor flies off while being worshipped.
Gorr arrives speeding by and cuts of Thor.But Thor yelled out the same way he did when he jumped through the air like a ****ing cat, so naturally he hit his limit. That's your argument apparently. Naturally you would tell me Superman benching the planet's weight and then only hitting with mountain destroying punches WAS OMG THAT WAS NO WHERE NEAR HIS LIMIT OMG HATERS, OMG I'M GOING TO SPAM THE OWNAGE THREAD FOR LIKE 20 PAGES DEFENDING THIS!
Which is what I find cute about this little red herring here. You're basically inviting people to downplay the planet benching feat in favor of mountain destroying punches. Be my guest though, I don't give a shit.Allow me to talk about my day though considering we're talking as if yell grunting means something. I was grunting swinging a four pound mini sledgehammer with one hand today. Then I was swinging it ten times as hard without a sound, cracking the handle in the process. Apparently the grunts meant I was trying harder according to Phildo guidelines. It didn't feel like it, but if we're to adhere to everything Phildo, I guess I must have been. Whodathunkit?
In case you're still playing dumb, yelling/grunting/screaming doesn't establish a limit... especially when they do it quickly quickly quickly. Maybe if he sat there and struggled for a while you'd have a point, but... he didn't.
That is assuming he was doing it purely due to pushing, and not due also to the eminent lightning strike. But I'm playing along to the beat of your stupid.
Though lol at you trying to squirm out of admitting you're wrong by using "celestial bodies". It's worlds. It says worlds right there. And also lol at you saying Thor destroying a planet is arguably his most impressive feat ever. I guess we know why you have such a huge problem with said feat. Though by you saying arguably his most impressive, then it seems you're conceding he did actually destroy said planet.
And what does that mean? It means that some stupid retarded statement like this:
Is wrong. And it also defeats the entire purpose of your issues with Beta since according to Phildo Rule of Dumb, planet destroying only counts if you're standing still.
But since you're red herring... ning already, let's try one out here for the sake of nostalgia.
Here Hyperion struggles to stop a planet bigger than Earth at half of lightspeed immediately.You'll note his struggle naturally because it's you, but you'll also note he did it immediately. Just like Thor did. Now, does that mean that was the absolute limit? Of course not. That would be retarded to think. It just means he put a lot of effort into his push, not necessarily the stopping. In fact, considering as you well know, Hyperion can hold off two universes, it must not have been his full limit. 🙂
But onto your whole red herring here. You have now tried to divert attention completely away from you stating Thor can't destroy the Earth to changing it to Thor can't move the Earth because he yelled when he pushed a moon together in what seconds?
Well, let's answer that with another feat. World Engine time!
Thor fights against Yggdrasil himself and the engine when he turns the World Engine:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor494-19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor494-20.jpgWhat that meant at the time.
The tree grows through all things, controls all nature and supernature:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor491-22.jpgA tree that runs everything:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor492-19.jpgContains Earth inside it:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor493-08.jpgThat on it's own should prove enough that Thor moved against at least planetary forces, but what does the most current canon say about the World Tree?
Odin tears loose the tenth realm from the roots (there's 10 realms within Yggdrasil):
http://postimg.org/image/7q7zn062p/And the tenth realm alone was the size of a universe:
http://postimg.org/image/6cgcrp6td/As well as the other nine realms;
http://postimg.org/image/4zqplypzl/And just for shits and giggles, here's Thor and Hercules generating enough pressure to throw Earth out of orbit. Arm wrestling.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/th_Thor_400-54.jpgAlso, you ignored my comparison between Thor and Gladiator that would prove by feats Thor is the superior striker, and by feats, Thor should be just as capable as destroying a planet. But I guess you don't even know what you want to respond to.
Which leads us to Thor is [/I]more[/] than capable of benching a planet. Thor can destroy planets. Beta can destroy planets.
We can get a mod ruling on this if you want though. 🙂 [/B]
ok abhilegend please try to lowball the world engine feat again 😮💨
Originally posted by JBL
He has been caught in that same lie a hundred times, but we ALL know you would believe it because you love superman.Its kind of like this lie you got caught in.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Kryptonian Dragon. After not having enough time to recharge with the Sun.If you actually read the comic you would have known that he just finished "sun bathing" not long before the dragon started attacking him.
🙁I dont hate superman, i just hate when crazy fans lie to give a false impression of the character. 😮💨
🙄
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thorbags are worse than both combined.
Originally posted by abhilegend
"World shattered" was stated six times on panel. No twisting in that, you're the one who is twisting it to your needs.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh really? Then why bring it up?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman destroyed planets six times in three comics as stated on panel. Cry more.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
[B]Here Hyperion struggles to stop a planet bigger than Earth at half of lightspeed immediately.
Just a quick note, 500,000 miles per hour is not remotely close to light speed.
The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second, in one hour it will travel over 670 Million Miles.
Source
http://www.universetoday.com/38040/speed-of-light-in-mph/
Not saying Hyperion can't stop a half light speed planet but unless there is a scan missing stating half the speed of light it didn't occur there.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
ok abhilegend please try to lowball the world engine feat again 😮💨
That was a story inside a story. Not to mention, the world tree was dying as revealed later in Thor 501. So its a completely unquantifiable feat. To assign it as a planetary or whatever level is faulty. Much less universal level which Bran is suggesting.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
[B]no2
uhuh
Not really. If you still can't grasp what really happened on panel now, there is no helping you ever.I grasped it very firmly. Your denial isn't a proof. "World shattered" was stated six times on panel.
I already told you. It was used to expose the faulty logic employed by your white knight.Not really. Kryptonian dragon=/=struggling to contain a moon.
And concession accepted.
