I don't see Grievous' abilities aiding Spidey all that much. He is at least as strong, fast and agile as Grievous (IMO much more so), can already cling to walls, and has webbing and a Spider sense to boot. He also has enough durability to not even be fazed much when hit by speeding vehicles.
So basically it's Spiderman vs Stevepool (Weapon Rogers?). In which case I see the supersoldier weapon taking the win.
Edit: Though are you giving Spidey a pair of sabers? That would actually be useful to him, as he could possibly get a decap if he is fast enough with them, in which case this is a closer fight.
Originally posted by ares834
Lightsabers and four arms? That's pretty helpful.
That's why I asked if he was giving Spiderman the sabers too. He only mentioned combat stats, xp and powers. Not gear. Because without those sabers, I don't see a way for Spiderman getting a kill. With the sabers, he actually has a shot at winning this.
Originally posted by KingD19
A decap wouldn't really help. As seen Deadpool could move his body independently without his head. So it would inconvenience him at most.
His one hand was awkwardly grasping for his head in that end credit cut scene. Hardly the kind of form to take on Spiderman. All Spiderman has to do (IF he manages a decap) is punt Stevepool's head into the next city block.
Originally posted by KingD19
But considering speed should be similar due to Wade's bullet scene, and his twin Adamantium blades, a decap would be damn hard to pull off.
Amazing Spiderman (I am assuming we are using the latest one, OP didn't specify) has also dodged bullets at virtual point blank range. He is no slouch by any means.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
His one hand was awkwardly grasping for his head in that end credit cut scene. Hardly the kind of form to take on Spiderman. All Spiderman has to do (IF he manages a decap) is punt Stevepool's head into the next city block.
That's sort of oversimplifying it. His body was 90% buried under tons of rubble from having pretty much the entirety of a nuclear silo falling on him. All that was exposed was his arm and he reached over and quickly found his head. It's not like he could do much else given the circumstances.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerAmazing Spiderman (I am assuming we are using the latest one, OP didn't specify) has also dodged bullets at virtual point blank range. He is no slouch by any means.
And I'm aware of Spidey's speed. He did indeed dodge Rhino's bullets while falling toward him. I'm just saying their speed based on how they both react to bullets is similar enough that a decapitation wouldn't be easy for Spidey. Especially since Dead America has twin Adamantium blades in his arms, and his shield.
Originally posted by KingD19
That's sort of oversimplifying it. His body was 90% buried under tons of rubble from having pretty much the entirety of a nuclear silo falling on him. All that was exposed was his arm and he reached over and quickly found his head. It's not like he could do much else given the circumstances.
Being buried under rubble shouldn't matter to a teleporter. Unless being decapped severely hinders him in using any of his other abilities.
Originally posted by KingD19
And I'm aware of Spidey's speed. He did indeed dodge Rhino's bullets while falling toward him. I'm just saying their speed based on how they both react to bullets is similar enough that a decapitation wouldn't be easy for Spidey. Especially since Dead America has twin Adamantium blades in his arms, and his shield.
Never said it would be easy. Never even said he would do it. Said he could possibly do it, if he was fast enough. The point I was making here was that Stevepool shitstomps him if he doesn't get a pair of sabers. With a pair of sabers, this is actually a close fight.
It probably wouldn't matter if Stryker was still around to command him and his broadcast signal was still active. But with it done the case could be argued that Wade was just now regaining control. He might not have even known he could teleport on his own. That movie was awful though so I won't say anymore about it, lol.
Agreed on the second part.
Originally posted by RobtardOh, in that case...
This is an amalgam fight; so it's one character that has both SM's and GG's best traits. So picture a four-armed SM with lightsabres.
Insta-rape.
Originally posted by ares834Barakapool who struggled with and eventually got taken by Wolverine and Sabretooth? Spidey is significantly stronger, faster, more agile, and has a spidey sense. Pool would never touch him (not even with optic blasts), and would end up drowned in webbing in an instant. If we go bloodlusted, Spidey would finish the fight just as fast.
Spidey wouldn't take Barakapool. With lightsabers though...
As for your new rules, a pure hand to hand fight is different. It would be hard to KO Barakapool, since we've never seen it done. It took killing him for Wolvie to put him down. If this is without Spideys willingness to hold back, Spidey/Grievous tear his head off quickly.
With weapons, insta-beheading via lightsabers.
Either way, General Spidey wins.
Originally posted by ares834Barakapool did not deflect machine fun fire. Wade Wilson did. There is nothing to suggest that Pool after his transformation can do similar. On the contrary, he got taken out by Wolvie and Sabretooth. If he was all you make him out to be, he would have diced Sabretooth in an insant and baraged Wolvie win optic blasts from all around so fast he wouldn't be able to block and react to them. Wade post-transformation was a step down in speed and skill.
Barakapool was deflecting machine gun fire with swords... His reactions are easily on par with Spider-man. Add in the fact that he can teleport, has optic blasts, and a retardedly powerful healing factor and it's quite clear Spider-man doesn't stand a chance.With lightsabers though he has a chance.
I compare it to Lord of the Rings, were the Orcs are post-transformation Elves. They are a massive step down in speed and skill, while being stronger.
Originally posted by ares834I was always under the impression that Phoenix was holding back at the time because of her love for Logan.
Just like Phoinex should have destroyed Wolverine? Let's face it. Their was massive amounts of PIS going on in that fight. And Barakapool was kicking their asses. They only won because he thought he knocked Wolverine off the building allowing Wolverine to pull off a sneak attack.
Yes, he was kicking their asses at first. They still managed to parry and dodge a good amount of his attacks. Sabretooth managed to grab him by the neck (twice) and bring him over to Wolverine to get stabbed in the back. He had to back off and fire optic blasts from the other side of the reactor. I have a hard time believing someone as fast as Spidey would have ever been tagged by Wolverine or Sabretooth. Even when he fought Wolverine alone, he was getting parried, dodged, and even stabbed. If he was as fast as Wade, none of that would have transpired. Weapon X showed himself to be much slower than Wade and Spidey. The dude got tagged plenty by Wolvie and Sabretooth. We can try to say it's PIS, but that was Weapon X's only showing.
Compare that final fight to this.