Myths, Legends and Facts about the BIG Ones

Started by FreshestSlice10 pages

So you want us to post how you did? Okay?

The Sith Emperor is the emperor of the Sith Empire.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/Sith_Emperor

#1 Is the Sith Emperor really unstoppable?

1. Nope. He was stopped mostly by one Jedi Knight who brought millennia of planning to ruin in a few months. Thousands of years of prep ending in failure. However, a few days of planning lead to him killing an entire council at once. He's power is too inconsistent to judge.

2. A weapon called a Lightsaber and a Ceiling crushed him easily without him being able to respond.

The Emperor lies beaten at your feet. For all his power, he was no match for you.

This statement shows that Vitiate actually was at full power and still couldn't fight the Hero. This also shows that the HoT is better than infinite potential, which Vitiate is above, having beaten Revan.

#2 Did Vitiate do anything note worthy of his own power?
My life spans millennia. ....A day, a year, a millennium—it matters not. I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars."

This shows that not only was Vitiate prepared to wait thousands of years to carry out his plan, but that the amount of time would not even matter. As none of his plans were fulfilled, it's obvious that Vitiate could not affect the galaxy beyond his own planet.

Also notice that all of the major victories for the Sith came from people other than Vitiate.

#3 Could Vitiate even destroy himself?

On Voss, it's showed that Baras, although a powerful sorcerer and Dark Side user, was able to bound the Emperor without him being any the wiser. Even then he needed an untrained Sith Lord to kill even himself.

CONCLUSION for Vitiate
He is nowhere near as competent as he claims to be, and on some occasions even admits his own weakness. There for he is not all powerful, nor is he able to actually destroy the galaxy.

Is this how we're supposed to post, LeGenD?

The quotes that state Vitiate as the most powerful Force user can easily be in reference to a political and military standpoint. The man was in total control of the Sith Empire.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I am sorry LeGenD, but you yourself have confirmed you have never even seen the Mortis trilogy in another thread. I don't see the point in trying to explain to you their entire history when you don't even give the effort to learn about them yourself.

I will watch it eventually.

However, I am presenting facts. The Ones have lived outside Mortis at one point in their history and had disputes back then as well.

Guess what? Galaxy existed just fine. In-fact, Universe existed just fine.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
So you want us to post how you did? Okay?

The Sith Emperor is the emperor of the Sith Empire.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/Sith_Emperor

#1 Is the Sith Emperor really unstoppable?

1. Nope. He was stopped mostly by one Jedi Knight who brought millennia of planning to ruin in a few months. Thousands of years of prep ending in failure. However, a few days of planning lead to him killing an entire council at once. He's power is too inconsistent to judge.

2. A weapon called a Lightsaber and a Ceiling crushed him easily without him being able to respond.

The Emperor lies beaten at your feet. For all his power, he was no match for you.

This statement shows that Vitiate actually was at full power and still couldn't fight the Hero. This also shows that the HoT is better than infinite potential, which Vitiate is above, having beaten Revan.

#2 Did Vitiate do anything note worthy of his own power?
My life spans millennia. ....A day, a year, a millennium—it matters not. I hold the patience of stone and the will of stars."

This shows that not only was Vitiate prepared to wait thousands of years to carry out his plan, but that the amount of time would not even matter. As none of his plans were fulfilled, it's obvious that Vitiate could not effect the galaxy beyond his own planet.

Also notice that all of the major victories for the Sith came from people other than Vitiate.

#3 Could Vitiate even destroy himself?

On Voss, it's showed that Baras, although a powerful sorcerer and Dark Side user, was able to bound the Emperor without him being any the wiser. Even then he needed an untrained Sith Lord to kill even himself.

CONCLUSION for Vitiate
He is nowhere near as competent as he claims to be, and on some occasions even admits his own weakness. There for he is not all powerful, nor is he able to actually destroy the galaxy.

Is this how we're supposed to post, LeGenD?


Done with trolling?

Don't be butt-hurt over facts.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I am sorry LeGenD, but you yourself have confirmed you have never even seen the Mortis trilogy in another thread. I don't see the point in trying to explain to you their entire history when you don't even give the effort to learn about them yourself.

And this is why he's not allowed to debate the Exile, except you seem to take his arguments on her seriously.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Done with trolling?

Don't be butt-hurt over facts.


What are you talking about, I posted facts, bro.

Originally posted by Nephthys
What is this supposed to prove? Of course they have limits. All beings have limits. But their limits are higher than that of any Force User to ever live, other than the HoT and FP Grey Revan.

This was a joke right?

whats a joke

Originally posted by Nephthys
whats a joke

The HoT and Revan bit.

Your so stupid bro.

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Also, forgot about this feat from Mortis trilogy:
They were able to basically freeze all time sans Anakin and friends when they go to Mortis. Rex confirms the entire event happened in only "a moment.

I'm sorry.

Originally posted by Selenial
The HoT and Revan bit.

That's not a joke.

Grey Revan is the force united itself, he is beyond light and dark which is as far the Ones went.

The Ones were limited by the division of the force, they knew it existed in unison but were only able to manifest as extreme concentrations of it individually.

Revan surpassed the ones by manifesting in a tangible form that was all aspects of the force simultaneously. That is why Grey Revan could do Force Sever storm, where he makes form storms that rain force sever beams.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
What are you talking about, I posted facts, bro.

Your posted misleading garbage, not facts.

You are butt-hurt over the fact that The Ones didn't turn out to be omnipotent. Seriously, grow up. This goes for every other troll as well.

@FreshesSlicet 👆 "The immortal illusion. An embodiment so powerful it is believed as a legend. A raw aura of pure energy, balanced in masterful light. An ultimate, omniscient vision. A untrammeled being of perfect. Sheer clarity pierces the heavens as the Force itself coaxes into view. Lord Revan has came."
―The Canonical Sourcebook of Revan and Furry Cats

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's not a joke.

Oh I thought that was a joke.

Meh, Karpyshyn disagrees. He replied to my email about Surik by basically saying that the theory is valid, though you can't compare the two because they're so even, and that you can't even compare Revan and Vader as their power levels are so similar.

Therefore, Sidious > Revan and you all lose.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Your posted misleading garbage, not facts.

You are butt-hurt over the fact that The Ones didn't turn out to be omnipotent. Seriously, grow up. This goes for every other troll as well.

Ok he's DEFINITELY trolling.

Can't believe I've taken him seriously before.

Originally posted by Selenial
and that you can't even compare Revan and Vader as their power levels are so similar.

Quote for Revan and Vader that they are similar?

Originally posted by Selenial
Oh I thought that was a joke.

That was a joke.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Your so stupid bro.

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Also, forgot about this feat from Mortis trilogy:
They were able to basically freeze all time sans Anakin and friends when they go to Mortis. Rex confirms the entire event happened in only "a moment.


I am stupid for presenting facts? 🙄

This is not a feat of The Ones, they never froze time at any point in history. This information indicates that Mortis Monolith have different ground realities then rest of the galaxy, it is a marvel of technology that mortals do have proper grasp of. The fact that Jedi visited this Monolith, experienced all events, and returned while observing that time had not passed for them in galaxy proper is simply indicative of unparalleled technological capabilities of Celestials. Mortis Monolith is not a planet, it is a technological wonder of the Celestials.

I wasn't talking about you.

I was talking to Selenial thinking that Neph was serious.