Originally posted by Tzeentch
You missed Ice T's point, then.Ice T doesn't hate police. Ice-T hates police who are douchebags and harass people for no reason other than them being black. He hates police who can murder people, practically on-video, and get away with it because they're cops.
It's amazing how many people miss this. Same with some NWA songs.
So, me actually getting no straight answer from the actual artist means nothing? Yeah, i suppose you guys would know better...😉 😆
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Originally posted by Robtard
So you're comparing say a Prius to a 9mm handgun, where one is specifically designed to move people around and the other is specifically designed to kill humans?That logic seems both lazy and foolish and foolishy lazy.
Originally posted by Fallschirmjäger
Well, if we stop and examine this for a minute, what is being said
is irresponsibility can exist with anything that gets mis-used. And with young kids, cars are of special note here.Every now and then, you hear some kid who just got his license and\or graduated gets a brand-new big-ass SUV or some other monster car or truck as a present. He then takes it out with his friends, and because of his inexperience, (or lack of responsibility) he winds up getting himself and his friends killed, or winds up killing someone else.
It's relevant for those reasons alone, as it shows irresponsibility with a right or a privilege. And while not as frequent as gun violence, the fact that someone died from something they shouldn't have had to begin with is the key.
However, that alone should not be a reason to revoke the rights of others who are safe and responsible.
...nice to see people thinking outside the box and not foolishly, lazily dismissing other arguments out of hand. 😉
Originally posted by riv6672
Also......nice to see people thinking outside the box and not foolishly, lazily dismissing other arguments out of hand. 😉
That's still comparing a device specifically designed to move people around to one specifically designed to kill people. That's a silly and lazy argument.
Sure, a car could be used to kill people, just as a gun could be used to not kill people. That doesn't take away the inherent purpose of each device though.
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Originally posted by riv6672
Also......nice to see people thinking outside the box and not foolishly, lazily dismissing other arguments out of hand. wink
Thanks friend. Sometimes us older folks can keep a cooler head better than those around us. Have a drink on me, bud 🍺
Originally posted by Robtard
That's still comparing a device specifically designed to move people around to one specifically designed to kill people. That's a silly and lazy argument.
Not really that silly when you consider that in the past, people have deliberately committed vehicular manslaughter with pre-meditative purpose of ending someone's life. When someone is that dedicated, anything can become a weapon, and regardless of the statistics of how many people died from something other than a gun, the fact is is that people were still killed by an alternate method.
Originally posted by Robtard Sure, a car could be used to kill people, just as a gun could be used to not kill people. That doesn't take away the inherent purpose of each device though.
Fair enough, however it's the fact that anything can be used to kill someone. As long as the intent exists, there will always be a way.
No, but there should be an aggressive lobbying group created for the express purpose of countering the NRA's influence and propaganda.
Banning the NRA would only further radicalize its members and wouldn't solve the problem of the American gun culture--that's something that will either take many generations of gradual demographic change (like what's happening with gay marriage and legalization of marijuana) or a drastic grassroots social revolution caused by something truly horrendous that even the NRA's supporters can't spin.
Should they be banned.. no. Banning a group for simply expressing an opinion is not okay.
That being said I do not think owning a gun is a right. At the very least imo owning a gun should be a privilege only given to those who have gone through the necessary training to have one.
I also think the gun culture of the USA is stupid. Guns have become a toy instead of respecting as the weapon it is.