Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Force Drain is moot point in this contest.Both have conditions that allow them to survive this power if subjected to. Therefore, this contest is likely to switch to more conventional attacks. And Emperor is likely to dominate.
However, it would be interesting to observe what Nihilus can achieve with his telekinetic abilities. Revan had to approach oneness like condition to send Emperor packing, but Emperor's focus on mind domination made this possible since he wasn't spending much energy to defend himself at this point. Otherwise, Revan find it impossible to telekinetically handle Emperor. In-fact, not even HoT could.
Thats how I think it would happen as well. IMHO, drain wouldn't be a game changer for Nihilus and lightsabers would be almost useless. Insane force maneuvers would come from both sides and Vitiate would overwhelm him at some point.
It cannot be.
Yeah thats what I thought too.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I suppose the cut content overrides the original, since that was supposed to be in the game.Apparently Nihilus "rivals," the ancient sith. They must be hella powerful. 😎
It also talks about how Nihilus's drain is unique, and how, "the teaching must die with him."
Nihilus' drain was believed to be unique but it isn't, Emperor Vitiate pulled off even more devastating results with the same power. This actually comes down to an individual's ability to manipulate the Force.
Consider the example of Tutaminis. It ranges from shielding skin of harmful effects of radiation from Sun to blocking lightsaber with bare-hands. Everybody learns Tutaminis but few master this talent to its highest degree.
Basically, Nihilus and Emperor mastered Force Drain to its highest degree. They could produce results with this power that no one else could.
Originally posted by Sinious
Bioware writers? lmaoLame. It must have sucked for the people who tried it. 😄
I played Kotor 1 on the 360 recently, after finding it in HMV for £2, but never again.
Loading screens took like 5 minutes each, was horrendous, controls were cool though (I know a lot of people used Xbox controlers for the PC game actually)
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
More controlled? Certainly. More purely devastating? Nah. Vitiate needed a ritual and assistance to pull the (admittedly insane) Nathema feat, Nihilus did it by himself on his own accord.
Basically, what Darth Nihilus performed, Emperor took it to greater height.
Later on, Emperor continued to increase his power and it is implied that he could destroy entire worlds as well if he would try but he didn't because this would jeopardize his ultimate objective.
Originally posted by Selenial
I played Kotor 1 on the 360 recently, after finding it in HMV for £2, but never again.Loading screens took like 5 minutes each, was horrendous, controls were cool though (I know a lot of people used Xbox controlers for the PC game actually)
Don't forget the sound lag at times, the horrible lag in the middle of fighting scenes that nearly gets you killed.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDNihilus' drain was believed to be unique but it isn't, Emperor Vitiate pulled off even more devastating results with the same power. This actually comes down to an individual's ability to manipulate the Force.
While I agree with you on the fact that Vitiate's drain is a more impressive force feat since he has control over it, I don't think he can cause a drain as devastating as Nihilus in combat. Vitiate needed to perform a ritual to pull of a planet consuming drain where Nihilus started talking and it started happening. Combat wise, Nihilus drain > Vitiate drain
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Emperor Vitiate involved many Sith Lords in the ritual to unleash dark side power to its greatest extent, this is why ritual produced the largest nexus of the dark side the galaxy would ever see.
Wait what?
Not only is Natheema NOT a Dark Side Nexus, Malachor is touted as the Strongest Dark Nexus in the Galaxy.
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Didn't Vitiate need to conduct a Ritual to destroy Nathema? while Nihilus just killed the entire Katar planet with little trouble?
Darth Nihilus pulls this off due to his condition.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Emperor Vitiate involved many Sith Lords in the ritual to unleash dark side power to its greatest extent, this is why ritual produced the largest nexus of the dark side the galaxy would ever see. However, Emperor Vitiate was performing additional actions within the ritual, he first mentally enslaved all other participants and then drained them to achieve his objective of corporeal immortality. Emperor Vitiate even went a step ahead, he consumed the Force itself surrounding the planet, and left the planet as a void in the Force.Basically, what Darth Nihilus performed, Emperor took it to greater height.
Later on, Emperor continued to increase his power and it is implied that he could destroy entire worlds as well if he would try but he didn't because this would jeopardize his ultimate objective.
In case it wasn't known, I'm fairly certain Nihilus's drain also creates an absence/void in the force. The main difference is that he can do it on an extremely large scale at will, rather than requiring thousands of sith lords to do it on the same scale. The speculation that he can destroy a planet all on his own doesn't necessarily mean drain. Nor does it mean he can legitimately do it in the first place.
While I agree that Vitiate is an upgrade to Nihilus, the latter is still superior in drain and most likely telekinesis as well.