Voldemort vs Magneto

Started by Lestov1613 pages

LOL

This is stupid. 2 low level DEs were able to easily collapse the Millennium Bridge. Umbridge, who is one of the weakest witches portrayed on the show, was able to blast apart a magically reinforced wall to bits. And these people are nowhere near Voldemort's level in terms of either power or skill.

Harry Potter himself has reflexes sufficiently well developed to catch the superfast Golden Snitch in almost every Quidditch match he's participated in, and we know that his reaction time and reflexes are shit compared to Voldemort's in combat. Which puts a huge question mark on whether Magneto has better reflexes than him or not.

Then there's the issue of mind-rape, which Magneto has no defense against(there is no proof that his helmet works against magical mind-control). Voldemort's legilimency is among the strongest in the wizarding world, and there's the Imperius curse as well.

Above all however, Voldemort is immortal and can still continue functioning in the form of a pseudoghost even after his body has been destroyed. Let's say that by some miracle, bypassing all of Voldemort's offensive and defensive capabilities, Magneto manages to critically injure his body. That leaves Voldemort free to possess him and make him kill himself.

In short, Voldemort has far too many ways to win this match and the only reason people would want to argue against him is because they hate quanchi112's guts. Which under normal circumstances would be as good an excuse as any, but here it's devolved into needless trolling, counter-trolling and spamming.

Originally posted by Epicurus
This is stupid. 2 low level DEs were able to easily collapse the Millennium Bridge. Umbridge, who is one of the weakest witches portrayed on the show, was able to blast apart a magically reinforced wall to bits. And these people are nowhere near Voldemort's level in terms of either power or skill.

Harry Potter himself has reflexes sufficiently well developed to catch the superfast Golden Snitch in almost every Quidditch match he's participated in, and we know that his reaction time and reflexes are shit compared to Voldemort's in combat. Which puts a huge question mark on whether Magneto has better reflexes than him or not.

Then there's the issue of mind-rape, which Magneto has no defense against(there is no proof that his helmet works against magical mind-control). Voldemort's legilimency is among the strongest in the wizarding world, and there's the Imperius curse as well.

Above all however, Voldemort is immortal and can still continue functioning in the form of a pseudoghost even after his body has been destroyed. Let's say that by some miracle, bypassing all of Voldemort's offensive and defensive capabilities, Magneto manages to critically injure his body. That leaves Voldemort free to possess him and make him kill himself.

In short, Voldemort has far too many ways to win this match and the only reason people would want to argue against him is because they hate quanchi112's guts. Which under normal circumstances would be as good an excuse as any, but here it's devolved into needless trolling, counter-trolling and spamming.

Magneto alone moved the Golden Gate Bridge, which is 3.5 times longer. And Mags lifted a stadium and you think Umbridge's busting open the room of requirement is a comparable feat (because it was "supported by magic"😉? LOL

Magneto caught a shitload of missiles in mid air and re-directed them back at the ships who fired them. Even as he was being distracted by Xavier fighting him, he was still able to get them on target. Also, as Rob stated, he's caught bullets in mid air, which I would wager are faster than golden snitches or anything Vold's reflexes have been tested against. Hell, Rowling herself says bullets trump wizards, but they can't trump Magneto. Hmm.....

And I'm sure you're willing to back up your "wizard mind control is more powerful" claim right? Hell, Imperius can be broken by the strong willed. A person under Xavier's control is screwed no matter how strong their will, besides Jean, and I'll LOL if you say Vold can beat her. But yeah, when Olcc..Occu..Okunamitis can control various people in airports on the fly, then I'll consider the possibility that it trumps mutant telepathy, which Magneto's helmet blocks.

Won't really matter because Vold will be splattered on a Dodge ram flying faster than a baseball thrown by an MLB pitcher, which means Mags won the match before any post-death possession can take place

In short, you've misjudged this match Epi

Originally posted by Lestov16
Magneto alone moved the Golden Gate Bridge, which is 3.5 times longer. And Mags lifted a stadium and you think Umbridge's busting open the room of requirement is a comparable feat (because it was "supported by magic"😉? LOL

Magneto caught a shitload of missiles in mid air and re-directed them back at the ships who fired them. Even as he was being distracted by Xavier fighting him, he was still able to get them on target. Also, as Rob stated, he's caught bullets in mid air, which I would wager are faster than golden snitches or anything Vold's reflexes have been tested against. Hell, Rowling herself says bullets trump wizards, but they can't trump Magneto. Hmm.....

And I'm sure you're willing to back up your "wizard mind control is more powerful" claim right? Hell, Imperius can be broken by the strong willed. A person under Xavier's control is screwed no matter how strong their will, besides Jean, and I'll LOL if you say Vold can beat her. But yeah, when Olcc..Occu..Okunamitis can control various people in airports on the fly, then I'll consider the possibility that it trumps mutant telepathy, which Magneto's helmet blocks.

Won't really matter because Vold will be splattered on a Dodge ram flying faster than a baseball thrown by an MLB pitcher, which means Mags won the match before any post-death possession can take place

In short, you've misjudged this match Epi


No, I think that the wizards vastly below Voldemort's level performing comparable feats means that Magneto lacks this mythical power advantage that people are giving him. I doubt that those 2 DEs would have any more problem collapsing the GGB than they did the MB.

Lol, and the missile feat is superior to Voldemort's powerset how exactly? Magneto stopping bullets doesn't make him a bullet-timer. He has good reflexes for a non-peak human, same as Voldemort. Rowling's comments pertain to book characters, I don't believe for a second that she was talking about movie characters. Not to mention that she also wrote Albus Dumbledore being capable of obliterating his brother Aberforth with both hands tied behind his back in a duel. Since we are going by author statements and what not, the golden snitch is supposed to move as fast as a lightning bolt aka over 3000 miles per second. Just saying.

Yes I can. Wizard legilimency and spells work differently as compared to Xavier's telepathy. This is coming from the guy who liberally lowballs the sh1t out of Xavier in other threads with those Shaw/Mystique examples. Lawl. Big fat lawl at you.

Not really. The fight is over only if one of the opponents is KO'd/killed. Death doesn't KO Voldemort as we saw the first time when his curse backfired on him when he first killed Harry. Nevermind the fact that given Voldemort's own impressive suite of powers and abilities, Magneto managing to splatter him with a dodge ram is a stretch to imagine.

More like you're letting letting your blind hatred of quanchi112 get the better of your senses. I rewatched GoB, OoP, and the Deathly Hallows. Voldemort had some nasty feats, and the icing on the cake is that he never had true control of the Elder Wand in the first place; which means all his feats performed with that wand were his base power. Presuming you're giving him true and absolute control of the wand here, this would verge on a spitestomp for him.

Let me ask you this, Epi.

Do you think Voldemort is fast enough to react to a metallic object the size of a fingernail and possibly smaller zipping toward his head at near bullet velocities? Could he even see it? Because that's what happens. We've seen Magneto launch stuff on a split second with a thought. What defense does No-Nose have?

He does so to spells which are cast at similar speeds. Again, based on screenfeats both these characters have similar reaction time and reflexes despite not being peak humans.

What defense does Magneto have against leglimency? Or being turned into a toad? Or getting possessed? Or burnt by fiendfyre? Or the myriad other ways in which Voldemort could decimate him?

There goes that hilarious hyperbole again. What besides your opinion suggests spells travel at near-bullet speeds. Did you tag them with a speedometer?

His defense will be to shove a car engine into Voldy's ribcage before that happens.

If Voldemort can pull up his shield faster than Magneto's attack, he stomps.

Originally posted by Lestov16
There goes that hilarious hyperbole again. What besides your opinion suggests spells travel at near-bullet speeds. Did you tag them with a speedometer?

His defense will be to shove a car engine into Voldy's ribcage before that happens.


Apart from the fact that Voldemort launched a lightning spell all the way into the stratosphere in the time it takes one to blink an eye, nothing. I'd like to know how exactly did Magneto's so called "bullet-timing" feats make him a superspeedster btw. Since you're going to any and all lengths to ignore Voldy's own impressive reaction and wanking the crap out of a guy who also incidentally failed to reproduce his "bullet-timing" reflexes when he tried to stop JFK's assassination, let's hear you out.

😂 The prodigal son fails to live upto the trollery of other butthurt qualowns in this thread.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Spells in HP are slow

How does this remotely approach Magneto's bullet timing?

No, they aren't. They are more than fast enough to kill Magneto here.

Magneto isn't a bullet timer, either.

Feats or GTFO

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Feats or GTFO
Avada Kedvara or Crucio. One spell wins.

I meant speed feats for spells

Are you mentally deficient?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
I meant speed feats for spells

Are you mentally deficient?

Listen to your own advice and GTFO.

By the time Magneto unscrews a nail/nut from some car, voldemort will have his shield up.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Was it really half a second, or is that just your subjective opinion of what you saw? I see you throw a lot of hyperbole (jedi-like reflexes, 1/2 second, etc.) around but no actual empirical facts.
I'll post the vid when I get home from work in the morning.

Not sure how much worth this has, though in First Class, Magneto is confident that he could deflect a bullet fired at point blank from Xavier

Hell, AK can be stopped by solid objects, meaning Magneto could just use a car door as a shield

^Voldemort disintegrated a basilisk fang with a casual AK, so not sure where you're getting this "AK can be stopped by solid objects" stuff.

He's getting it from the numerous times where AK was blocked by solid objects. Unless you're going to claim a Chevy is less durable than a Basilisk's fang.

Post scenes where it was blocked then. Because from what I remember, the AK ended up busting apart every single thing it hit, instead of being "blocked".

Originally posted by StealthRanger
I meant speed feats for spells

Are you mentally deficient?

You post magneto feats and I will post quicker feats. Voldemort wins. It must be eating you alive that the darkest wizard crushes this pathetic mutant.