Originally posted by Newjak
Ninjas in Ninja Assassin were awesome when no one knew they were coming.Think about the last scenes in the movie where they essentially got mowed down by guys with guns and lights. This leads me to believe that when they don't have the element of surprise they are nearly as good.
I would say Hogwarts takes this pretty easily.
Guns and lights are far different from spells(easily avoidable and highly visible), frightened kids, and mostly darkness.
Originally posted by NewjakThere is that too. Proper response for Hogwarts is to get the lower year kids either hidden or completely evacuated through secret exits. That leaves the skilled upperclassmen and teachers.
You mean the frightened kids that are going to be locked in magic sealed dormitories while the incredibly strong wizard teachers unleash hell on the ill equipped ninjas with magic they have no defense against.
Originally posted by KingD19Remind who all was there in that battle?
This is the battle of Hogwarts. The same fight where Voldemort dropped the shield. Everybody who was in that, is in this.And the ninjas are invisible as well as able to hop in and out of shadows. On top of that they're way faster than the wizards can react to and can just spam machine-gun shuriken.
Also the wizards know the ninjas are coming. The place will probably be far from dark. And the Wizards have means to completely nullfiy Ninjas before they can attack. Such as throw up a shield or use magic to scry on them.
Originally posted by KingD19Yes, and the lower year students were evacuated prior to the battle ever starting. Voldemort gave them plenty of time to turn over Harry Potter before he attacked. The setting only helps because of the presence of adult wizards/witches that wouldn't have even been there if not for Voldemort.
This is the battle of Hogwarts. The same fight where Voldemort dropped the shield. Everybody who was in that, is in this.And the ninjas are invisible as well as able to hop in and out of shadows. On top of that they're way faster than the wizards can react to and can just spam machine-gun shuriken.
It doesn't matter how many shuriken they spam, the residents of Hogwarts know the shield charm. Seeing as to how the ninjas shuriken don't have any feats of penetrating otherworldly magic, I don't see this helping. And the ninjas were more than slow enough to react to. The main reason they were hard to react to at points in the movie was because they attacked from the shadows. That wont help here thanks to an abundance of detection and illumination spells, not to mention that the majority of the battle took place on the fully lit campus grounds. The school defended against hundreds of grown and powerful death eaters. I don't see 100 muggles taking it, as skilled as these muggles are.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
There is that too. Proper response for Hogwarts is to get the lower year kids either hidden or completely evacuated through secret exits. That leaves the skilled upperclassmen and teachers.
Who are these skilled upper classmen? Neville? When Harry started the DA, there were students older than Harry who joined and all had to start at the most basic level of defensive spellcasting. Why, because Hogwarts doesn't train the students to fight. The students of Hogwarts are ordinary teenagers, not raised or trained as assassins since birth.
Looking at the duel between Snape and Mcgonagall or Ginny/Molly versus Bellatrix, it doesn't really take superhuman reflexes to react to the spells. To the ninjas, those spells are slooooow.
As per the op, the ninja assassins also know what the wizards are capable of. They're not bloodlusted barbarians who charge at the first incantation of "lumos maxima". Ninjas have much more finesse than that yet brutal at the same time. They'll utilize hit and run tactics and shadow blending. Besides, if a ninja and wizard were in the same room, the ninja can throw 3 shurikens while dodging at the same time than random Hufflepuff girl #38 can properly point and aim her wand and fire off a jinx or spell imo.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
So in any ninja thread, their opponent must be sitting around, clueless, just waiting to be attacked?
Originally posted by RobtardAs opposed to giving the ninja abilities they do not possess, and having the wizards totally unaware of the pending attack? Hell, anyone can be beaten that way.
100 Ninja X 100 Shuriken = 10,000 Flying Deadly Shuriken (FDS)10,000 FDS = All dead wizards /simplemaths
ps "unbiased version" that specifically takes out one of the ninja's greatest weapons, stealth and surprise. I LoLz.
Originally posted by StigmaYou have any idea how huge Hogwarts is? So what if the wizards are aware of the pending attack? The Ninja can't sneak into a big ass castle full of wizards that are prepared for battle?
You missed the point.
Stealth is what characterized ninja fighting style. With the stips like these, it's like Professor X without his TP or Wizards unable to cast spells.
Seems like the ninja are useless UNLESS their enemy do not know they are coming.
And BTW, the entire Order of the phoenix is in this fight. All of them.