Originally posted by michaelx
No PIS/CIS stated in description. Freddy has decent damage soak and good combat skills (which were not shown in other movies), but lacks offensive pressure. He only has claws to deal damage.
He also uses the environment to his advantage when the opportunity presents itself. he also demonstrated the ability to use his opponents weapons against them, like when he used Jason's machete.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
He also uses the environment to his advantage when the opportunity presents itself.
Location - Standard arena with 4 Pillars. I didn't state there are weapons around the area. Only signature weapons.
he also demonstrated the ability to use his opponents weapons against them, like when he used Jason's machete.
Both Bane and Batman are faster and smarter than Jason.
Originally posted by michaelx
Location - Standard arena with 4 Pillars. I didn't state there are weapons around the area. Only signature weapons.
Not the point I was trying to make....
Originally posted by michaelx
Both Bane and Batman are faster and smarter than Jason.
Irrelevant. My point was that Freddy is not always restricted to just his claws, he has demonstrated the ability to pick up and use tools he would not normally use. And being more intelligent or quicker than Jason does not preclude them losing their weapons in battle. I'm pretty sure batman has discarded thrown batterangs before.
Originally posted by Lestov16
They're not stronger than him though. And sure as hell not as durable. Exactly what do Bane and Batman have in terms of strength feats that can output the same damage that Jason was able to inflict on Freddy?
Bane has snapped necks/ crushed windpipe/ punched through a pillar and lifted batman with 1 hand who weighed around 210 lbs/ 95kg IIRC. Freddy hasn't shown anything remotely close to this.
Freddy is more durable based on feats, but not to the point bane and batman can't handle. He can still die or be temporarily incapacitated. Batman's batsuit is resistant to conventional attacks.
And being more intelligent or quicker than Jason does not preclude them losing their weapons in battle. I'm pretty sure batman has discarded thrown batterangs before. [/B]
The only reason freddy was able to get jason's machete is because he cut his fingers. It's not like he went up to him and took it by force.
Batman did use baterangs in TDKR.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Snapping a neck/windpipe isn't the same as folding a man in half like a lawnchair and punching man's head clean off. And Freddy took blows from this guy.
Jason also slammed Kia into a tree with his machete. Why didn't he cut her in half? But in the end he rips Freddy's arm. So, maybe he wasn't trying in the start or the movie has inconsistent feats (worst crossover).
Why would Bane and Bats put down Freddy when Jason, who could do more to Freddy than Bane or Bats ever could, couldn't? [/B]
Because they are not retarded zombies like Jason. They are faster/agile/smarter - that's why freddy was able to land and prevent hits. He can't do it against opponents who are more skilled.
The scene with Kelly Rowland's death was clearly meant to showcase Jason's strength, since she went flying several feet, even if it didn't exactly play to real-world physics.
So when Bane goes to punch Freddy, does zero damage, and Freddy chops off his arm with a quick swipe, where will his skill help him then?
Originally posted by Lestov16
The scene with Kelly Rowland's death was clearly meant to showcase Jason's strength, since she went flying several feet, even if it didn't exactly play to real-world physics.
So that means kelly is superhuman.
So when Bane goes to punch Freddy, does zero damage, and Freddy chops off his arm with a quick swipe, where will his skill help him then? [/B]
Or maybe he can counterattack or hold his right arm (since he is far stronger), punch his throat /choke him to death.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Maybe her Beyonce-jealousy keeps her strong
lol that could be plausible.
Why can't Freddy use the left arm to dismember Bane and free his right arm? [/B]
Don't think he could. I think bane would just crush his throat in few seconds. Or maybe michael can intervene if he is done with batman.