Shazam (2016)

MoS cgi was good except for that world engine part it was a cluster****.

Please rewatch the Superman Zod fight part, it looks like a ps2 cut scene and not even a very good one. Shazam being made by new line really has me worried about that.

^ Why? Newline didn't make MOS. They made Blade Iirc.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Please rewatch the Superman Zod fight part, it looks like a ps2 cut scene and not even a very good one.

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That had good CGI....when supes goes to destroy the world engine that had the worst.

I think Shazam will actually be more important to the future of DC movies than Batman V Superman.

Everyone knows B v S will be a huge hit, but what WB really need is to prove they can make a great/successful DC superhero movie that doesn't include Batman or Superman.

It all depends on the director DC hires. Spike Jonze. Or maybe some other talented unknown.

Originally posted by Firefly218
It all depends on the director DC hires. Spike Jonze. Or maybe some other talented unknown.

Not necessarily. Cap 2 had the Russo Brothers (You Me and Dupree) and it's considered one of the best super hero movies around. Top 10 for sure.

Yeah, because the Russo brothers were much better directors than we thought.

Director is by far the most influential position in a movie production

Originally posted by Firefly218
Yeah, because the Russo brothers were much better directors than we thought.

Director is by far the most influential position in a movie production

Yes, but the name itself doesn't always mean a movie is going to be bad. The Russo Brothers is a prime example. And don't get your hopes up on Spike Jonze. Never going to happen.

That's why I said "or maybe some talented unknown". The Russo Brothers were talented unknowns before Cap 2.

Pretty much every director that gets in Hollywood is somewhat talented. The Russo's haven't proven much before Cap 2, IMO.

No, but I'm sure they gave one hell of an interview

The Russo Brothers impressed the hell out of me. Before the film came out I was wondering 'Why Them?' But it's probably also due to the great producing team led by Kevin Feige that is with every Marvel Studios film. It's like the production team on all the Harry Potter films; they switched out directors and maintained the same level of high quality.

I don't know if DC has that proven, consistent producing team that will be there for every film. Christopher Nolan has moved on, hasn't he? Who's the overseer-er - Zack Snyder? ❌

Originally posted by roughrider
The Russo Brothers impressed the hell out of me.

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Originally posted by roughrider
I don't know if DC has that proven, consistent producing team that will be there for every film. Christopher Nolan has moved on, hasn't he? Who's the overseer-er - Zack Snyder? ❌

Like I said, how Shazam turns out will be as important to the future of DC movies as how Batman V Superman turns out. Possibly more important.

Definitely not more important. The fact remains, if Bats v Supes is awesome, DC is on track. If bats v supes sucks, DC goes down the shithole.

If Shazam is successful, the most that'll do is give WB a little more confidence in more obscure DC properties. It won't have as huge of an impact on the DCU as bats v supes.

Thing is even if Batman V Superman is just OK, it's going to make a ton of money so unlikely to stop them carrying on with Batman, Superman and Justice League films.

If Shazam sucks or is just OK but struggles to make its money back then WB are just going to Halt on any plans involving a film without Batman and Superman.

Remember just a few years ago, Batman was doing Spectacular at the box office but Green Lantern flopped. The Result- Flash and Wonder Woman pre-JL solo films never happened. And Its taken 3 years to even get an announcement for a film not involving Batman or Superman.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Why? Newline didn't make MOS. They made Blade Iirc.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Definitely not more important. The fact remains, if Bats v Supes is awesome, DC is on track. If bats v supes sucks, DC goes down the shithole.

If Shazam is successful, the most that'll do is give WB a little more confidence in more obscure DC properties. It won't have as huge of an impact on the DCU as bats v supes.

Also Snyder isn't an Amazing director, i think you will be looking at a movie that can't possibly live up to its own unearned hype.

Whether Bats v Supes is successful or not doesn't have everything to do with money though. If the movie is bad quality, and gets poor fan reaction, it will put a serious damper on the prospects of the DCU.

Not to undermine the importance of Shazam, which is also really important.

It needs consumer trust though & Mos was a miss imho. If BvS makes alot of money but sucks though who knows maybe it will become the new transformers.

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