Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Thing is even if Batman V Superman is just OK, it's going to make a ton of money so unlikely to stop them carrying on with Batman, Superman and Justice League films.If Shazam sucks or is just OK but struggles to make its money back then WB are just going to Halt on any plans involving a film without Batman and Superman.
Remember just a few years ago, Batman was doing Spectacular at the box office but Green Lantern flopped. The Result- Flash and Wonder Woman pre-JL solo films never happened. And Its taken 3 years to even get an announcement for a film not involving Batman or Superman.
I don't think that will be a problem. Hercules has made 200 + M at the box office. Pretty good for a below average movie that wasn't even promoted well. The Rock can attract an audience. Plus it's a DC/Super hero property.
Originally posted by Golgo13
I don't think that will be a problem. Hercules has made 200 + M at the box office. Pretty good for a below average movie that wasn't even promoted well. The Rock can attract an audience. Plus it's a DC/Super hero property.
So with The Rock starring in a DC Property and decent marketing it can probably count on $300mill+WW. As long as they don't overspend on the budget like with GL that would be great.
But it does need to be a good movie too Imo. Because if it's well received (by fans and the GA- Screw critics) then that will really open the doors for DC Movies.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
It needs consumer trust though & Mos was a miss imho.
If it has the kind of reaction MOS did(generally people either loved it or hated it) it will be fine to go forward.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So with The Rock starring in a DC Property and decent marketing it can probably count on $300mill+WW. As long as they don't overspend on the budget like with GL that would be great.But it does need to be a good movie too Imo. Because if it's well received (by fans and the GA- Screw critics) then that will really open the doors for DC Movies.
If it has the kind of reaction MOS did(generally people either loved it or hated it) it will be fine to go forward.
MOS was received pretty well. Almost made 300 M domestically and broke records WW in some areas. Sites like IMDB have it above average, which is pretty good.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/03/new-line-chief-says-shazam-movie-will-have-a-fun-tone
Awesome. Looks like Shazam won't be following in the footsteps of MoS after all.
Originally posted by Firefly218
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/03/new-line-chief-says-shazam-movie-will-have-a-fun-toneAwesome. Looks like Shazam won't be following in the footsteps of MoS after all.
Yeah, old news.
Originally posted by Golgo13Mos did good business but it also has a 52/100 rating on rotten tomatos. I just don't have faith in Snyder but who knows Shazam could be good... kinda a weird guy to build his own universe around... i mean who is he gonna fight in the sequel?
MOS was received pretty well. Almost made 300 M domestically and broke records WW in some areas. Sites like IMDB have it above average, which is pretty good.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Mos did good business but it also has a 52/100 rating on rotten tomatos. I just don't have faith in Snyder but who knows Shazam could be good... kinda a weird guy to build his own universe around... i mean who is he gonna fight in the sequel?
Yeah, it did subpar on the reviews, but I'm talking about general audience here. A ton of people are looking forward to BVS and liked MOS.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
isn't the XXX Porn parody gonna be called Shizzum??? 😆 😆 😆
Nah...the adult film companies operate a lot more corporate now. They would now give it the title of Shazam: A XXX Porn Parody. Not like the days when they could twist any title into something sexual (Pulp Fiction - Pump Friction; Batman - Batbabe/Splatman etc.) 😄
I think this is a very important project, because they need to show they can have a breakout character not involving Batman or Superman. And to show they can offer up a more fun tone while still remaining in the same shared universe.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Mos did good business but it also has a 52/100 rating on rotten tomatos.
Studios obviously welcome good critical reviews, but critics ratings aren't nearly as important as Fan ratings + box office + blu-ray/dvd sales.
Superman Returns for instance had great critical reception. But the studio really didn't give a crap because audiences weren't happy with it.
Spider-Man 3 did great box office, but with the poor fan reaction and disproportionate DVD sales the studio did realize they messed up there, so didn't push for a Spider-Man 4 in the same direction, and were happy to consider a complete reboot of an Immensely successful franchise.
MOS on the other hand had critics and a few fan voices shouting out really loud about what a bad movie it was, but overall the Studio was happy. Because the Box Office + DVD Sales + Successful merchandising + Overall General Audience reaction made it all worthwhile for them. They may think about improving on things that some people are shouting out about, but end of the day, if most their movies do as well with similar reactions, they will be a very happy studio.
Originally posted by roughriderI think this is a very important project, because they need to show they can have a breakout character not involving Batman or Superman. And to show they can offer up a more fun tone while still remaining in the same shared universe.
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Shazam will make or break the future of DC superheroes for the forseeable future IMHO. (With the exception of films involving Superman and Batman that is).