Sometimes I think that even if you put him up against half the Sith in the mythos people would still give Mace the win cause of Vapaad. It's not that good. It would only bring him up to their general level, he's not beating 2 high-level Sith at once with it.
And what suggests they wouldn't get the chance? All it takes is a raised hand, obviously they can get off a Force attack before Kenobi and Mace physically run over and assualt them. And even then Kenobi isn't lasting long against whichever Sith he faces or pressing them hard enough so that they can't get off a Force attack. If Dooku can Force pwn him while also fighting Anakin, these guys can do it while fighting Kenobi on his own.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Sometimes I think that even if you put him up against half the Sith in the mythos people would still give Mace the win cause of Vapaad. It's not that good.
Yes, it is that good. I think you're just mad because KoTOR characters don't have vapaad.
I only chose Krayt and Malgus so I wouldn't look like such a PT fanboy, but Mace could probably solo every sith in history.
Well it's Mauls Hideout, so it's close quarters.
And Mace's Vapaad is "A Superconducting loop" that redirects "ALL" Dark Side energy thrown at him.
Which means if he faces two high level sith, he can throw both their power back at them, and even concentrate it into one of them. It effectively becomes Krayt and Windu vs Malgus.
We had a battlezone debate on Malgus vs Kenobi which can be found here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=661477
Which could be interesting to apply here.
Originally posted by Selenial
Well it's Mauls Hideout, so it's close quarters.And Mace's Vapaad is "A Superconducting loop" that redirects "ALL" Dark Side energy thrown at him.
Which means if he faces two high level sith, he can throw both their power back at them, and even concentrate it into one of them. It effectively becomes Krayt and Windu vs Malgus.
We had a battlezone debate on Malgus vs Kenobi which can be found here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=661477
Which could be interesting to apply here.
Apart from his duel with Palpatine Vaapad was never used effectively and guaranteed a victory for Windu in combat against Bulq, Maul. or Vastor. He was even afraid to use it when confronting Vastor on Haruun Kal. Its not as effective as one is lead to believe, Windu's dueling abilities while substantial are not enough to one shot either Sith. Wind could defeat either of them in single combat, but when they inevitably take out Kenobi he is done for.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Yes, it is that good. I think you're just mad because KoTOR characters don't have vapaad.I only chose Krayt and Malgus so I wouldn't look like such a PT fanboy, but Mace could probably solo every sith in history.
Lol wut? I'm not jealous of it, I just think it's dumb to use it as an instawin button in every thread without consideration. He's not beating 2 of the most powerful Sith of all time at the same time. He can't even comfortably beat Dooku.
Not at the same damn time and not without effort or in a good duel. Malgus or Krayt would last a heck of a lot longer against Windu than Kenobi would against them.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
At the same time.
Jesus' holy shit.
Originally posted by Selenial
Well it's Mauls Hideout, so it's close quarters.And Mace's Vapaad is "A Superconducting loop" that redirects "ALL" Dark Side energy thrown at him.
Which means if he faces two high level sith, he can throw both their power back at them, and even concentrate it into one of them. It effectively becomes Krayt and Windu vs Malgus.
We had a battlezone debate on Malgus vs Kenobi which can be found here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=661477
Which could be interesting to apply here.
Maces Vapaad was straining against Sidious' lightning. It is not capable of infinite defense, absorption and reflection. He would be overwhelmed unless you think that RotS Sidious' power is equal to or greater than Krayt and Malgus put together, which I find a lolsworthy concept to consider.
Theres no proof that he can feed off of two Sith to become more powerful than either. All that can be said is that he would be elevated to their level, at which point the two of them would overwhelm him with the Force or a lightsaber.
Your Battlezone threads seem like you're heavily scripting the fight.
Also Malgus would crush Kenobi in under 10 seconds.
Originally posted by carthage
Apart from his duel with Palpatine Vaapad was never used effectively and guaranteed a victory for Windu in combat against Bulq, Maul. or Vastor. He was even afraid to use it when confronting Vastor on Haruun Kal. Its not as effective as one is lead to believe, Windu's dueling abilities while substantial are not enough to one shot either Sith. Wind could defeat either of them in single combat, but when they inevitably take out Kenobi he is done for.
That's because, in my opinion at least, Windu's a powerful enough force user to have beaten Dooku and Ventress, Bulq or Vastor without using Vapaad. Vapaad is an amp that's meant to be used to close the gap between you and someone else, why would he use it on people who are far less powerful than he is?
It'd be a huge effort for windu to pull it off in this thread but it has to be considered.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Maces Vapaad was straining against Sidious' lightning. It is not capable of infinite defense, absorption and reflection. He would be overwhelmed unless you think that RotS Sidious' power is equal to or greater than Krayt and Malgus put together, which I find a lolsworthy concept to consider.Also Malgus would crush Kenobi in under 10 seconds.
Which is more a point for Sidious Lightning (You know, most powerful sith in history and all) than Windu's vapaad.
Let's not that Sidious lightning was literally bending Windu's blade back at him, a feat that's never been achieved or even remotely closed in on in the History of Star wars.
Not even by your beloved Vitiate.
And that's your opinion, you're a raging TOR fanboy and I don't take any arguments of yours in threads that pit Tor characters vs Non tor characters seriously anyway, so I don't care about your opinion. 🙂
And yes I'm allowed to say that. You all call me a Kotor fangirl, and that Era's not here right now, please call again later.