Originally posted by h1a8
You made the claim that I didnt effectively rebutt your argument. The onus is on you. Just saying I didn't isn't an argument whatsoever. You have no idea how to debate. You just troll all day.
This coming from the coward who refuses to address two points which clearly destroy your position:
Originally posted by dadudemon
Then you're super slow. Because I made 2 points.Edit - to be clear, there are clearly 2 feets seen on screen, from Ozymandias, that makes Captain America the winner and Ozy the loser in this match up. The feets do NOT help Ozy defeat CA as they actually frame Ozy's abilities and are clearly grounded much closer to reality than fiction like CA. Yet, you choose to ignore this and act like you're joking to avoid engaging in the debate.
Why dodge? I destroyed your "slo-mo perception" talking point with actual science when you claimed to have the high ground. I definitively proved Ozy was using martial arts instead of being a true bullet timer.
Rebut my arguments and then you can waste others' time.
Originally posted by dadudemon
This coming from the coward who refuses to address two points which clearly destroy your position:Why dodge? I destroyed your "slo-mo perception" talking point with actual science when you claimed to have the high ground. I definitively proved Ozy was using martial arts instead of being a true bullet timer.
Rebut my arguments and then you can waste others' time.
You did not prove anything. You posted a joke video with made up sound effects (by a third person who wanted to be funny).
Even if that non funny BS was canon then making sounds do not make someone perceive and move fast enough to catch a phucking bullet. Otherwise Ozy can apply the same trick to Cap and stomp the shit outta him.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
h1a8 dont be ridiculous. Its not for him to prove a negative.You claim youve proven something without actually having convinced a single person. So you should question what kind of proof that actually is.
You are stupid. Do you know that?
If you rebut my argument and I turn around and say to you, "what you said doesn't rebut my argument", without telling why, then how is that a valid argument?
You can say anything (even the most convincing argument) and I can always say, "That doesn't rebut my argument." like a little child.
Learn to debate.
Originally posted by h1a8
You made the claim that I didnt effectively rebutt your argument. The onus is on you. Just saying I didn't isn't an argument whatsoever. You have no idea how to debate. You just troll all day.
You made the original claim in that 1) Ozy saw the bullet in slow motion and 2) that you refuted my argument.
You have provided no proof for either.
Originally posted by h1a8
You are stupid. Do you know that?If you rebut my argument and I turn around and say to you, "what you said doesn't rebut my argument", without telling why, then how is that a valid argument?
You can say anything (even the most convincing argument) and I can always say, "That doesn't rebut my argument." like a little child.
Learn to debate.
You can spew out all the drivel you like, it doesnt make you correct.
You clearly havent “proven” anything, because proof leaves little room for doubt. Whereas you are still on a solo mission here Quan style.
Originally posted by h1a8
You did not prove anything. You posted a joke video with made up sound effects (by a third person who wanted to be funny).
If that was my only point, you'd have a point. It wasn't my only point so you don't have a point. I even pointed out the basics of one of my rebuttals in the post you quoted and you still ignored it.
Why?
Because you can't admit you are wrong.
And that video is me, me making the voice. 🙂
Originally posted by h1a8
Even if that non funny BS was canon then making sounds do not make someone perceive and move fast enough to catch a phucking bullet. Otherwise Ozy can apply the same trick to Cap and stomp the shit outta him.
You missed the point. If you was doing martial arts before the gun was fired, that means he was already preparing to react. The martial arts voice was just silly BS but there's still a legit underlying point: you can tell he is preparing to catch the bullet. Hence all the camera angles, the timing, and the delay.
That video also has a description in it which also destroys your point.
And then there are the two other Ozy feets from the movie that you're not considering which undercuts your entire position. You have no grounds to stand on with your support for Ozy in this "debate."
Originally posted by dadudemon
If that was my only point, you'd have a point. It wasn't my only point so you don't have a point. I even pointed out the basics of one of my rebuttals in the post you quoted and you still ignored it.Why?
Because you can't admit you are wrong.
And that video is me, me making the voice. 🙂
You missed the point. If you was doing martial arts before the gun was fired, that means he was already preparing to react. The martial arts voice was just silly BS but there's still a legit underlying point: you can tell he is preparing to catch the bullet. Hence all the camera angles, the timing, and the delay.
That video also has a description in it which also destroys your point.
And then there are the two other Ozy feets from the movie that you're not considering which undercuts your entire position. You have no grounds to stand on with your support for Ozy in this "debate."
A human can prepare to catch a bullet all he wants. That would never make him able to perceive it or move fast enough to catch it. You make no sense.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
You can spew out all the drivel you like, it doesnt make you correct.You clearly havent “proven” anything, because proof leaves little room for doubt. Whereas you are still on a solo mission here Quan style.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
You can spew out all the drivel you like, it doesnt make you correct.You clearly havent “proven” anything, because proof leaves little room for doubt. Whereas you are still on a solo mission here Quan style.
And yet stating that I haven't proven anything is not a valid argument. Otherwise I can say that to anyone's argument whether or not they did prove their case.
Watch a real debate or even a trial. There is no way the debater (or lawyer) states that the opponent didn't prove their case without explaining why.
You are not getting what I'm talking about. The person claiming that proof isn't proof has to have some accountability. Otherwise we can all say that and get away with it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, your new name is h1anakin because in any discussion you are in, everyone else has the high ground against you while you think you have a lot of winning power.
These are true facts. H1anakin has no defense because in his heart he knows it to be true.
H1 still has not factually refuted a single point. He’s losing this debate by a landslide.
Tbh anyone saying that a being can catch a bullet without having any superhuman level speed and perceptions is a troll. I don't know why I wasted my time and energy even debating such things. It's clearly beyond human to do such a thing.
From here on out, if anyone believes that the feat can be achieved without having any superhuman level speed or perceptions then you are a troll and I choose not to debate with you on the issue.
With that said, Ozy wins easily and makes Cap look like a child in the process.
Originally posted by h1a8
And yet stating that I haven't proven anything is not a valid argument. Otherwise I can say that to anyone's argument whether or not they did prove their case.Watch a real debate or even a trial. There is no way the debater (or lawyer) states that the opponent didn't prove their case without explaining why.
You are not getting what I'm talking about. The person claiming that proof isn't proof has to have some accountability. Otherwise we can all say that and get away with it.
Im not even debating here. Im pointing out you are doing nothing but spewing your own narrative and calling it Proof.
You need to learn what Proof is.