Darth Nox and Darth Malgus vs. Reborn Krayt and Darth Wyyrlok

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I mean with ghosts. To my knowledge, still, Nox isn't shown to be stabbed at all, though is injured from time to time, so their bubbles aren't always a guarantee. And by that point, Thanaton was obviously wounded and exhausted. It's not like there's any proof that Nox did that to Thanaton at full strength.

Well with ghosts, being stabbed wouldn't kill Nox since she's functionally immortal. She's just regenerate and get back up.

What does it matter if Thanaton was tired? All I proved was that she can actually block lightsabers with the force. She manhandled him with TK prior to this and the reason Thanaton was tired was because she casually kicked his ass without seeming the least bit weary herself.

Originally posted by Sinious
Why do you always assume the protags are all females?

Most of them are most likely males, including HoT. 😉

I've played all the classes and the majority of my characters were female. So it's automatic for me to refer to them as such. Mostly its because of voice acting and also I generally prefer playing female anyway. I play as a man in real life so whats the point, ya know?

JK - Hayter is so bland as the Knight. I tried out a male but switched to female because he was so white bread.

JC - My god does the male voice sound like a pompous moron. Again, I really tried for a dude first, but couldn't make it a few quests with that voice.

Trooper - Femshep.

Smuggler - I just preferred the female delivery, she is a professional comedian.

SW - I actually went female first then switched to male. He sounds pretty cool.

SI - Again, I just prefer the female delivery. She's so deliciously evil, I love it.

BH - I went male.

IA - I went male.

So ya see, its mainly that the characters we discuss the most as the ones I played as female. I played 5 chicks, 3 men. But I did try to be more equal on that, its just that crappy voice acting forced my hand.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I've played all the classes and the majority of my characters were female. So it's automatic for me to refer to them as such. Mostly its because of voice acting and also I generally prefer playing female anyway. I play as a man in real life so whats the point, ya know?

JK - Hayter is so bland as the Knight. I tried out a male but switched to female because he was so white bread.

JC - My god does the male voice sound like a pompous moron. Again, I really tried for a dude first, but couldn't make it a few quests with that voice.

Trooper - Femshep.

Smuggler - I just preferred the female delivery, she is a professional comedian.

SW - I actually went female first then switched to male. He sounds pretty cool.

SI - Again, I just prefer the female delivery. She's so deliciously evil, I love it.

BH - I went male.

IA - I went male.

So ya see, its mainly that the characters we discuss the most as the ones I played as female. I played 5 chicks, 3 men. But I did try to be more equal on that, its just that crappy voice acting forced my hand.

I understand though I cannot relate at all. I only play Empire characters and I have 1 IA female but the rest is all male.

At least your SW is male. Wrath is like the dudest of them all. I can't imagine him as female at all.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well with ghosts, being stabbed wouldn't kill Nox since she's functionally immortal. She's just regenerate and get back up.

What does it matter if Thanaton was tired? All I proved was that she can actually block lightsabers with the force.

She manhandled him with TK prior to this and the reason Thanaton was tired was because she casually kicked his ass without seeming the least bit weary herself.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Considering Krayt is also "functionally immortal," I assume this fight is about losing, not dying, with these two.

I just think your argument is flawed considering Nox can deal with being stabbed through her own skill, blocking it through the Force and can survive it anyway.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because Nox will obviously overpower an exhausted Thanaton who's wounded. Especially after he tries to blast them with that kind of Lightning.

Both Thanaton and Nox went into that fight on equal ground. Hell, Nox had to fight through a Darth just to get into the Council chambers. So if Nox was able to beat Thanaton comfortably enough that she was still going strong and he was weak, I don't see why she isn't above him enough to have done that feat at the start of the fight regardless. And he didn't seem wounded.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Seems to me the console members were more concerned with Thanaton not being able to kill Nox, not Nox dominating Thanaton during the duel, though admittedly they do casually swipe away his Lightning towards the end.

Nox pretty thoroughly stomped Thanaton bro.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Agreed. The craptastic performance they accepted from North almost confirmed it. Then again it's supposed to be an Obi-Wan like story, so there's that.

Emperor's Wrath-Vader
Darth Nox-Sidious
Barsen'thor-Obi-Wan
Hero of the Tython-Obvious KotOR cookie-cut protagonist.

In other words, they're probably going to break down on the, "Physical fighter, male, force fighter, female," lines.

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I will note it's possible to kill ghosts with the force, and Wyyrlok's sorcery, being a power of the mind, is good for the task. It may be possible to defeat Nox by targeting the spirits and weakening her.

On the flip side, there's four of them, so even the ability to kill spirits leaves a large challenge.

Malgus is in the fight as well folks.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I just think your argument is flawed considering Nox can deal with being stabbed through her own skill, blocking it through the Force and can survive it anyway.

Both Thanaton and Nox went into that fight on equal ground. Hell, Nox had to fight through a Darth just to get into the Council chambers. So if Nox was able to beat Thanaton comfortably enough that she was still going strong and he was weak, I don't see why she isn't above him enough to have done that feat at the start of the fight regardless. And he didn't seem wounded.

Nox pretty thoroughly stomped Thanaton bro.

Originally posted by carthage
Malgus is in the fight as well folks.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
So can Krayt, who's a superior fighter, as is Wyyrlok. The point is, if Nox gets stabbed, which I believe they will, they'll go down. If we go off the assumption that Nox can never actually die in battle, there'd be no point in putting them in debates.

Krayt beat Wyyrlok, so bringing him up doesn't really help you. And I've seen nothing indicating Wyyrlok is a superior fighter to Nox. Not dying immediately to Krayt doesn't indicate an advantage to me.

Firstly, Nox won't get stabbed. Wyyrlok lacks the ability to power through her Force powers and beat her in lightsabers. Secondly, Nox can die you'd just need to strip her of her ghosts after dispatching her. Thirdly, I'd agree with you that in a 1v1 fight beating Nox would count as beating her. But in a team battle, Nox has a chance to revive if her ally can hold on long enough, surely.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Hmm? Nox having endurance doesn't mean that they can stop Thanaton's lightsaber with TK when he's at full strength. When Nox actually TKs Thanaton into submission, it's after he tries to destroy them with continuous Lightning, and then TK'd during it. If you think he went through that without being hurt, fine.

Lol, "endurance". No, it demonstrates the difference in power. Endurance isn't why Nox was so unruffled after beating him twice. It's that it took her rather little energy and effort to beat him. She literally backhanded his attacks aside. Baras vs Wrath is an example of endurance. Nox vs Thanaton is an example of one person being very very outclassed.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Never seen that said anywhere.

Well it doesn't really need to be said, you just have to watch Nox owning the shit out of him in the last fight. Swtore does state Nox "utterly destroyed" him though. I mean, what else would you call it when someone slaps aside your lightning, walks through your best attack, ragdolls you across a room, stops your lightsaber dead with TK then literally forces you to kneel in front of them? That's called a curbstomp.

Team 1 (left)

@Neph, what? Nox doesn't have regen, the fact is that she simply cannot die. She can be, and has been injured and defeated before.

And then she just got back up again without any apparent injuries. So either she healed the damage herself or she regenerated.