Originally posted by KingD19He is strong enough to harm and kill him. He defeated Michael, dummy.
I wasn't aware inferior strength feats contributed to victory.Nor being a far less skilled fighter.
Drake was overrated to hilarity levels. Viktor wins. The guy overpowered a pretty old Lycan with his bare hands, easily.
You don't seem to realize that Viktor was already several hundred years old when Lucian sired Raze. So Raze would never be powerful enough to fight Viktor as he'd always be several hundred years older, and thus much more powerful.
If I'm 100 miles ahead of you and I'm going 100mph, and you're just going 50, you'll never catch up to me.
And he defeated a freshly turned Michael who was dominating him for the first half of the fight.
Drake would have been fast enough to stop Selene. Too bad Tricky Vick wasn't.
Originally posted by KingD19
You don't seem to realize that Viktor was already several hundred years old when Lucian sired Raze. So Raze would never be powerful enough to fight Viktor as he'd always be several hundred years older, and thus much more powerful.If I'm 100 miles ahead of you and I'm going 100mph, and you're just going 50, you'll never catch up to me.
And he defeated a freshly turned Michael who was dominating him for the first half of the fight.
Drake would have been fast enough to stop Selene. Too bad Tricky Vick wasn't.
Don't do it he will say all your accurate facts are wrong and then call you a liar while providing no evidence of his own.
Originally posted by KingD19Viktor was already far older than Lucian as well. Viktor was more powerful than Lucian and Raze but hilariously more powerful than Raze in Lycan form.
You don't seem to realize that Viktor was already several hundred years old when Lucian sired Raze. So Raze would never be powerful enough to fight Viktor as he'd always be several hundred years older, and thus much more powerful.If I'm 100 miles ahead of you and I'm going 100mph, and you're just going 50, you'll never catch up to me.
And he defeated a freshly turned Michael who was dominating him for the first half of the fight.
Drake would have been fast enough to stop Selene. Too bad Tricky Vick wasn't.
Michael had the speed and power advantage and still lost.
I disagree. Drake wasn't fast enough to save his own life from other attacks while taking blade on. Irony.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Viktor was already far older than Lucian as well. Viktor was more powerful than Lucian and Raze but hilariously more powerful than Raze in Lycan form.Michael had the speed and power advantage and still lost.
I disagree. Drake wasn't fast enough to save his own life from other attacks while taking blade on. Irony.
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Lucian was a special case. As the first Lycan it's clear the writers meant for him to be a step above both werewolves and all the Lycans he sired. The only pure wolf more powerful than Lucian was William. But thanks for admitting you understand my point. Viktor beating Raze was no special feat because Raze was weeks/months old as a Lycan toward the end of RotL. While Viktor was already several hundred years old. Raze would never catch up, so him beating him isn't special at all.
Michael was also nearly feral and had no fighting skills to speak of, nor any true control over his transformation. It was his first time ever transforming and before that he was a nurse.
And lol, did you watch Blade 3? Drake was beating Blade into the ground when Abigail shot an arrow at him. While solely focused on Blade, he turned around and caught the arrow. The only thing that killed him was the virus the arrow released. You can't fight a virus, dummy.
I accept your concession.
Originally posted by KingD19It was a special feat since we never saw a vampire overpower a Lycan. Amelia herself was easily slaughtered and she was far older. Viktor was the real deal. He was the brains, had the ruthlessness, battle savvy, skill, and strength to crush the Lycans.
Lucian was a special case. As the first Lycan it's clear the writers meant for him to be a step above both werewolves and all the Lycans he sired. The only pure wolf more powerful than Lucian was William. But thanks for admitting you understand my point. Viktor beating Raze was no special feat because Raze was weeks/months old as a Lycan toward the end of RotL. While Viktor was already several hundred years old. Raze would never catch up, so him beating him isn't special at all.Michael was also nearly feral and had no fighting skills to speak of, nor any true control over his transformation. It was his first time ever transforming and before that he was a nurse.
And lol, did you watch Blade 3? Drake was beating Blade into the ground when Abigail shot an arrow at him. While solely focused on Blade, he turned around and caught the arrow. The only thing that killed him was the virus the arrow released. You can't fight a virus, dummy.
I accept your concession.
Michael had no problem using his speed and strength so pretending he did is ignoring the film.
He wasn't quick enough to stop Blade from shoving the virus into his flesh.
It had to put inside the vampire. Blade did so easily. You got called out.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWOaXFrrEU
4:12 in.
Poor Drake.
Viktor unquestionably wins.
Amelia was slaughtered due to an ambush and the sheer amount of Lycan's attacking them.
And I never said Michael didn't use his physical advantages. I pointed out(Correctly) that he was nearly feral and was still a newborn who lacked skill, which Viktor took advantage of.
And no, he wasn't quick enough, but considering Blade was outfighting him as a human and holding his own against Drake when he turned into his true form, it's no surprise. Blade is always able to fight against the main bad guy in his movies, he just can't beat them without outside help.
Do you think Viktor would have lasted as long against Blade? Doubtful.
Originally posted by KingD19Amelia didn't overpower a Lycan. 🙂
Amelia was slaughtered due to an ambush and the sheer amount of Lycan's attacking them.And I never said Michael didn't use his physical advantages. I pointed out(Correctly) that he was nearly feral and was still a newborn who lacked skill, which Viktor took advantage of.
And no, he wasn't quick enough, but considering Blade was outfighting him as a human and holding his own against Drake when he turned into his true form, it's no surprise. Blade is always able to fight against the main bad guy in his movies, he just can't beat them without outside help.
Do you think Viktor would have lasted as long against Blade? Doubtful.
Lycans killed older vampires physically in rise of the Lycans. 🙂
Viktor despite a speed and strength disadvantage came out on top. He does the same to Drake though easier since Drake lacked Michael's speed.
You made it seem like the virus didn't need to physically enter Drake. It did and was easily rammed into him. Drake got beat when someone else helped. Irony.
Viktor destroys him. His strength in easily overpowering a Lycan shows he definitely wins this fight, sport.
Let's use the video you posted since we're talking about strength feats.
So snapping a Lycan's neck is equal to:
57 seconds when Drake cuts clean through metal?
1:02 seconds when he impales a couch and casually flings it across the room?
1:55 when he knees Blade in the gut and he pops up about 6-7 feet in the air?
2:11 when he launches himself clear across the room by jumping off the wall?
Or 2:34 when he bodyslams Blade so hard he makes a shockwave and breaks all the stone in the floor in at least a 12 foot radius while leaving a crater Still in his human form?
How about 2:55 when he holds Blade in the air like a baby, then hurls him across the room hard enough to dent the metal beam he hits? Which is at least a foot thick.
Or 3:30 when he just tosses him across the room?
Also way earlier in the movie Drake jumps clean from one high rise building to one across the the street.
Viktor's strength feats if I recall are throwing a frail old man and barely cracking his skull while doing absolutely no damage to the pillar he hits. He swing dances with Micheal, and breaks Raze's neck.
Hardly comparable, and by that I mean Vik's feats suck in comparison.
Originally posted by KingD19
Let's use the video you posted since we're talking about strength feats.So snapping a Lycan's neck is equal to:
57 seconds when Drake cuts clean through metal?
1:02 seconds when he impales a couch and casually flings it across the room?
1:55 when he knees Blade in the gut and he pops up about 6-7 feet in the air?
2:11 when he launches himself clear across the room by jumping off the wall?
Or 2:34 when he bodyslams Blade so hard he makes a shockwave and breaks all the stone in the floor in at least a 12 foot radius while leaving a crater Still in his human form?
How about 2:55 when he holds Blade in the air like a baby, then hurls him across the room hard enough to dent the metal beam he hits? Which is at least a foot thick.
Or 3:30 when he just tosses him across the room?
Also way earlier in the movie Drake jumps clean from one high rise building to one across the the street.
Viktor's strength feats if I recall are throwing a frail old man and barely cracking his skull while doing absolutely no damage to the pillar he hits. He swing dances with Micheal, and breaks Raze's neck.
Hardly comparable, and by that I mean Vik's feats suck in comparison.
He used a weapon to do so. That isn't the same as what Viktor did.
That isn't impressive at all. Lol.
Viktor throws people considerably farther than 7 feet.
That has more to do with athletic ability and Viktor can jump up and evade sword strikes while clinging to walls.
That is decent but still not enough to take on Viktor.
Again, Viktor has greater feats like when he tossed Michael through walls and quite easily or overpowering the Lycan.
He tossed Michael through a wall and quite easily. He overpowers a multiple hundred year old Lycan form.
Viktor's feats are quite demonstrably superior to Drake's. He is from a superior universe so that's why. Don't take it personally.